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  • scrambles
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-18-18
    • 28

    #1
    Is this normal?
    Has anyone ever seen a rule like this preventing payouts?? It seems illogical to me:

    "requires equal dollar amounts of action between full games and partial games (first half, second half, quarters, propositions, etc.). This rule applies to live wagering as well."


    Basically i am being told that in order to receive payout, i must wager EXACTLY the same amount between live, and partial games; and full games.

  • videogamelul
    SBR Hustler
    • 09-08-17
    • 56

    #2
    It is not normal. MyBookie is a POS operation with POS employees.
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    • jtoler
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 12-17-13
      • 30967

      #3
      lol that is ridiculous pretty much saying we know you wont be able to do that and win so its free money for us. is that really real and how could anyone stay there
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61457

        #4
        Originally posted by scrambles
        Has anyone ever seen a rule like this preventing payouts?? It seems illogical to me:

        "requires equal dollar amounts of action between full games and partial games (first half, second half, quarters, propositions, etc.). This rule applies to live wagering as well."


        Basically i am being told that in order to receive payout, i must wager EXACTLY the same amount between live, and partial games; and full games.

        New one to me.

        I guess it's their way of saying we want you to bet like a rec player and not concentrate on anything like 1H bets only.
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        • lonnie55
          SBR MVP
          • 04-08-16
          • 2689

          #5
          unbelievable rule

          never heard of before

          book?
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          • Frank
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-13-07
            • 918

            #6
            This book is absolute scum.

            They did the same thing to me before they eventually stole from me.

            They forced me to rollover another 15k after I probably wagered a million dollars.

            I cannot believe they got an upgrade. WTF

            Read about it here:

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            • Debacleov
              SBR High Roller
              • 11-25-18
              • 223

              #7
              Isnt that Robbie McPhails scam operation
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              • temple2010
                SBR MVP
                • 03-16-10
                • 1369

                #8
                Scum bags! Plain and simple
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                • turbobets
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-13-06
                  • 999

                  #9
                  Not to pile on but they have horrible odds. I was paid but it was the most tedious payout I've ever had.
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                  • RUNandGun
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 08-10-18
                    • 109

                    #10
                    They will do it to you also if you beat them on props to much. Will tell you that you have to do 50/50 props and games. Or they will just shut you down. Pure rec book.
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                    • scrambles
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 05-18-18
                      • 28

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      New one to me.

                      I guess it's their way of saying we want you to bet like a rec player and not concentrate on anything like 1H bets only.
                      Optional,
                      Are you implying that this is an acceptable rule?

                      Wouldn't there be a viable reason why you have never come across a rule like this before?

                      I am curious as to what your rationale is.
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                      • scrambles
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 05-18-18
                        • 28

                        #12
                        Jesus seems you guys really hate MyBookie,
                        Makes me wonder how they got such a high SBR rating
                        Perhaps that C+ is misguided, time for a demotion?
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61457

                          #13
                          Originally posted by scrambles

                          Optional,
                          Are you implying that this is an acceptable rule?
                          No.
                          .
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                          • milwaukee mike
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 08-22-07
                            • 26914

                            #14
                            that is one of the worst rules/excuses i've ever seen from a sportsbook trying to rob someone... next thing you know they are gonna make you bet just an equal amount on every sport, and every time you bet on the buffalo bills you also have to bet on the buffalo sabres
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                            • pologq
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-07-12
                              • 19899

                              #15
                              shit storm book. tired of their mailings too.
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                              • HedgeHog
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-11-07
                                • 10128

                                #16
                                Originally posted by scrambles
                                Jesus seems you guys really hate MyBookie,
                                Makes me wonder how they got such a high SBR rating
                                Perhaps that C+ is misguided, time for a demotion?
                                Jesus, do you even have an account at MyBookie? If so, are they refusing to pay you for the reason you outlined in your original post? If not, why are you angling for a demotion of this Book?
                                Last edited by HedgeHog; 12-16-18, 09:51 PM.
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61457

                                  #17
                                  ^^^ if they are actually blocking a payout telling you that you "must wager EXACTLY the same amount between live, and partial games; and full games" then if you send in a complaint form I'd guess SBR could help sort it out. It sounds like a communication breakdown if it's actually happening now as that is obviously not a reasonable condition to set.

                                  I thought it was a pre-joining question at first.
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                                  • cwlwastaken
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 08-19-14
                                    • 6

                                    #18
                                    I just saw this thread so thought I would add my experience. I am being denied a payout right now by mybookie based on this rule because the vast majority of my bets were on props. I recently filed a complaint to SBR but havent heard back from them yet. Obviously if I had been more careful I could have seen this rule prior placing bets with them but in my opinioin, whether they have a rule like this in their terms and conditions or not the basic act of placing bets on a site should not be silently creating a massive barrier to ever receiving a payout. Certainly a sportsbook is entirely within their rights to limit a customer or boot them from their site based on something like this but the threshold for them to be able to reasonably deny a payout seems like it should be much higher.
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                                    • relaaxx
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-15-06
                                      • 3281

                                      #19
                                      unbelievable - hate this kind of crap
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                                      • HedgeHog
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-11-07
                                        • 10128

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by cwlwastaken
                                        I just saw this thread so thought I would add my experience. I am being denied a payout right now by mybookie based on this rule because the vast majority of my bets were on props. I recently filed a complaint to SBR but havent heard back from them yet. Obviously if I had been more careful I could have seen this rule prior placing bets with them but in my opinioin, whether they have a rule like this in their terms and conditions or not the basic act of placing bets on a site should not be silently creating a massive barrier to ever receiving a payout. Certainly a sportsbook is entirely within their rights to limit a customer or boot them from their site based on something like this but the threshold for them to be able to reasonably deny a payout seems like it should be much higher.
                                        Wow, I thought the OP was stating a rule that was never enforced. Clearly I was wrong. This matter regarding MyBookie definitely needs to be addressed.
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                                        • Frank
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-13-07
                                          • 918

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                          Wow, I thought the OP was stating a rule that was never enforced. Clearly I was wrong. This matter regarding MyBookie definitely needs to be addressed.

                                          It was never addressed when it happened to me over a year ago.

                                          Neither was their theft of my $1250.

                                          SBR told them it was wrong and they didn't care.

                                          Now that time has passed and no one remembers, they get an upgrade.

                                          I will keep reminding everyone that MyBookie is scum.
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                                          • VegasPackerFan
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 09-03-18
                                            • 56

                                            #22
                                            Wow, thanks for the heads up fellas. I was just about to send them $1000 so I could try them out. I'll pass if they're doing crap like this. Ridiculous.
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                                            • scrambles
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 05-18-18
                                              • 28

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                              ^^^ if they are actually blocking a payout telling you that you "must wager EXACTLY the same amount between live, and partial games; and full games" then if you send in a complaint form I'd guess SBR could help sort it out. It sounds like a communication breakdown if it's actually happening now as that is obviously not a reasonable condition to set.

                                              I thought it was a pre-joining question at first.
                                              Thanks for the advice Optional.

                                              I originally posed the question to figure out wither or not public consensus would support their request. My goal was to determine if i was correct in feeling cheated by this rule, or if i was being irrational. Public consensus seems to support my initial feelings of dismay.
                                              I have been in touch with them for a few weeks about this issue, there has been quite a bit in the way of communication. I wouldn't exactly call it a communication breakdown, though i understand why that is the initial thought ,and i appreciate your concern.
                                              I want to give them a chance to resolve this with me before filing an official complaint with SBR. So fingers crossed no forms will have to be filled out.
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                                              • Frank
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-13-07
                                                • 918

                                                #24
                                                Don't expect them to budge on anything.

                                                They don't care what is fair or not fair.

                                                SBR couldn't help me. They sided with me and scumbags at MyBookie didn't give a shit.

                                                Good luck.........you will need it.
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                                                • scrambles
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 05-18-18
                                                  • 28

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                  Jesus, do you even have an account at MyBookie? If so, are they refusing to pay you for the reason you outlined in your original post? If not, why are you angling for a demotion of this Book?
                                                  Yes, and Yes.
                                                  I was simply making the observation that the tone on this particular thread seems to be complete dis-satisfaction with this book. I suppose i found this frustrating because their rating lead me to believe that public opinion of them was positive, which lead me to create an account in the first place.
                                                  Learning that people dislike mybookie made me think that perhaps that rating does not reflect public consensus and should be changed to help new bettors like myself avoid these kind of headaches.
                                                  I hope that makes my intentions evident. I am not trying to create additional hate, or drum up some kind of anti-mybookie noise on this forum. I am simply making note of public consensus that already exists. If you noticed my initial question made a point of not referencing mybookie. It was never my intention to start a smear campaign, i simply wanted to know if i could justify my refutation of this rule when engaging with mybookie about my payout request.

                                                  I can definitely understand why you might of thought otherwise, I hope I cleared everything up.
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                                                  • scrambles
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 05-18-18
                                                    • 28

                                                    #26
                                                    ^ i think vegaspackersfan's comment illustrates exactly why one should be concerned about the ratings.
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                                                    • pokerdevil
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 04-20-16
                                                      • 433

                                                      #27
                                                      For what it's worth, I ran into this annoying rule recently. A supervisor politely explained it to me on the phone. It's certainly atypical for the industry, but it's right there in the terms & conditions.

                                                      I completed the extra rollover and was paid in full just 2 days later.

                                                      I think the current rating is appropriate.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 61457

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by scrambles
                                                        Yes, and Yes.
                                                        I was simply making the observation that the tone on this particular thread seems to be complete dis-satisfaction with this book. I suppose i found this frustrating because their rating lead me to believe that public opinion of them was positive, which lead me to create an account in the first place.
                                                        Learning that people dislike mybookie made me think that perhaps that rating does not reflect public consensus and should be changed to help new bettors like myself avoid these kind of headaches.
                                                        I hope that makes my intentions evident. I am not trying to create additional hate, or drum up some kind of anti-mybookie noise on this forum. I am simply making note of public consensus that already exists. If you noticed my initial question made a point of not referencing mybookie. It was never my intention to start a smear campaign, i simply wanted to know if i could justify my refutation of this rule when engaging with mybookie about my payout request.

                                                        I can definitely understand why you might of thought otherwise, I hope I cleared everything up.
                                                        MyBookie seem to be a love them or hate them proposition.

                                                        Definitely a rec book. But if you fit their preferred profile then you probably like them.
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                                                        • SharpAsASkunk
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 11-03-10
                                                          • 18

                                                          #29
                                                          Same thing happened to me. After requesting a payout, they called me and told me I had to bet an equal amount of pregame bets to match my live betting. I had never heard of this rule on any book before this. The weirdest part was that I have withdrawn from this book a number of times before. I feel like they are holding my money hostage, forcing me to take bets that I don't want.
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                                                          • cwlwastaken
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 08-19-14
                                                            • 6

                                                            #30
                                                            I am currently working through the full game bet requirement they said I have to match the amount I bet on props. Hopefully I will be able to cashout when I finish that. I never heard anything from SBR about the complaint I filed.
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                                                            • washhead
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 02-08-18
                                                              • 444

                                                              #31
                                                              Question to those who are currently dealing with this -- are you being told you're required to make an amount of straight bets equal to the original rollover requirement, or an amount of straight bets equal to the amount of prop bets you've made?

                                                              For instance, if your initial rollover requirement was 10K, and you've already made 20K worth of prop bets...are they saying you need to make 10K of straight bets (to meet the initial rollover), or 20K (to match your prop bets)? Just curious.
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                                                              • cwlwastaken
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 08-19-14
                                                                • 6

                                                                #32
                                                                There is no initial rollover, or if there was from a bonus or something its not relevant to what people are talking about here. They say you are required to have an equal amount of action on full game bets as on things like props, quarter lines, etc. If you deposit to the site and primarily play non full game markets you are silently building up a rollover. In your example they would require 20k of full game bets to match the amount you made in prop bets before they allow a cashout.
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                                                                • scrambles
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 05-18-18
                                                                  • 28

                                                                  #33
                                                                  They are requiring you make 20k to match your prop bets not to simply match the rollover
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                                                                  • 5mike5
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-21-11
                                                                    • 51995

                                                                    #34
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                                                                    Last edited by 5mike5; 01-01-19, 06:08 AM.
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                                                                    • BIGF23
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 12-30-18
                                                                      • 40

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Shady Books will make up these rules.
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