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  • dipsomaniac
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-10-09
    • 10

    #1
    one bet voided the other settled
    2 x bets were placed on the same event at the same time. one bookmaker has voided quoting that the game had started 50 minutes earlier, the other bookie has settled claiming that i placed the bet 10 mins before the off.

    now the difficulty is trying to establish exactly when the game started. it is made more difficult because each bookie is located at a different time zone from each other, me and the event.

    the event was euroleague mens volleyball - croatia v great britain played on 5 July 2009. the euroleague website appears to show the game due to start/started at 19:00 on one page and 18:00 on another page.

    how do i resolve this as both bookies (3 emails each) are insisting they are right when both can't be right
  • PAPSMEAR
    SBR MVP
    • 02-13-09
    • 2581

    #2
    why would a bookie be insisting that you placed the bet 10 mintues prior to game commencement if it already paid you out. I don't know too many bookies that set out to try and convince you that your bet was legit so they have to pay you??????????????????????????
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    • dipsomaniac
      SBR Rookie
      • 05-10-09
      • 10

      #3
      it was a losing bet papsmear - one bookie has refunded the other has kept my stake
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      • PAPSMEAR
        SBR MVP
        • 02-13-09
        • 2581

        #4
        now I see your point you just omitted to say that in your original post

        as to your question write to the league ask for an official game commencement time then convert to relevant time zones and present the evidence to the stiff bookie
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        • dipsomaniac
          SBR Rookie
          • 05-10-09
          • 10

          #5
          Thanks Papsmear. I am waiting for a reply from the league - hope they speak english.
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          • MadTiger
            SBR MVP
            • 04-19-09
            • 2724

            #6
            Even some of the English speakers don't understand when they have to pay that damn money.
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            • headgames
              SBR High Roller
              • 10-04-08
              • 225

              #7
              On the cev.lu website, that the game is listed at 19:00hrs on the table and when you click to see the breakdown of the game it still says 19:00hrs. The site's times match Betfair's UK times for forthcoming games. You could try info@britishvolleyball.org as that's the British side of the game and they covered it with articles.
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              • pjesnik24
                Restricted User
                • 11-01-05
                • 1286

                #8
                Originally posted by dipsomaniac
                2 x bets were placed on the same event at the same time. one bookmaker has voided quoting that the game had started 50 minutes earlier, the other bookie has settled claiming that i placed the bet 10 mins before the off.

                now the difficulty is trying to establish exactly when the game started. it is made more difficult because each bookie is located at a different time zone from each other, me and the event.

                the event was euroleague mens volleyball - croatia v great britain played on 5 July 2009. the euroleague website appears to show the game due to start/started at 19:00 on one page and 18:00 on another page.

                how do i resolve this as both bookies (3 emails each) are insisting they are right when both can't be right
                it was played at 19:00 CET (I am Croat)
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                • dipsomaniac
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 05-10-09
                  • 10

                  #9
                  thanks for the replies. i did check the cev website and it did show 19:00 on the statistics page but when i clicked on the live link (its is not there now) it was showing 18:00
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                  • dipsomaniac
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 05-10-09
                    • 10

                    #10
                    this is hard work. I am now being told by the one bookie that the time on the euroleague website is incorrect and the game kicked off at 18:00. the problem is that I did see a time of 18:00 on the euroleagues 'live' website not long after the game finished. I am still waiting for replies to my emails from the euroleague and gb vollyball org. can anyone else shed any light on why the bookie would say the official website is wrong? they won't reveal their sources.
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                    • sickler
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-05-08
                      • 15006

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dipsomaniac
                      can anyone else shed any light on why the bookie would say the official website is wrong? they won't reveal their sources.
                      Maybe they want to keep your money and hope that out of frustration you'll stop with the inquiries.

                      Insist on seeing their source(s).

                      Which book is it, if you don't mind?
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                      • Justin7
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-31-06
                        • 8577

                        #12
                        Can you contact the league commissioner, and get an "official" start time?
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                        • betpartners
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 02-15-09
                          • 239

                          #13
                          What were the bookies

                          One may have had the kick off at UK time 18.00 and the other at CET 19.00
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                          • dipsomaniac
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 05-10-09
                            • 10

                            #14
                            pinny (pst)/intertops (gmt +0) - still no reply from euroleague - will try league commissioner. which one is right. taking bets. thanks

                            edit: couldn't find details of the commissioner so emailed both refs
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                            • dipsomaniac
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 05-10-09
                              • 10

                              #15
                              both refs have come back stating that game started at 18:00 due to croatia tv - bookie still not accepting at the moment
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                              • dipsomaniac
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 05-10-09
                                • 10

                                #16
                                RESOLVED - finally voided bet. thanks for all replies
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                                • PAPSMEAR
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-13-09
                                  • 2581

                                  #17
                                  i wondered how you were going with it. well done maniac perserverence paid dividends in the end.
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