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  • franklissa
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-27-14
    • 116

    #1
    Bitcoins sent with very low fee. Please Help.
    I have two transaction that have been stuck on blockchain since Monday and they both are still unconfirmed. I saw videos of doing a child to parent transaction to raise the fee however I don't think I can do it because the transaction were sent from a website to my localbitcoins account. Will it eventually be confirmed? If it doesnt get confirmed, does it return to the book ? How does all of this work. Thanks
  • littlekona
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-19-15
    • 5242

    #2
    I had one straggler that was going on 3 days...I finally got it into the viabtc transaction accelerator and it was confirmed 2 hours later...Try that if you can get it in....Also if you see unconfirmed inputs that are tied into the transaction try putting those in too as that might be why its not confirmed...But regardless you will get it back or it will confirm just might take longer
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    • RoyBacon
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 09-21-05
      • 37074

      #3
      Thought the fork was supposed to fix this? I've waited 3.5 painful days.
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      • mrpapageorgio
        SBR MVP
        • 09-07-17
        • 2974

        #4
        Originally posted by RoyBacon
        Thought the fork was supposed to fix this? I've waited 3.5 painful days.
        You mean Segwit? It was a soft fork so not everyone was forced to adopt to it and it's only at 10% adoption right now.
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        • craigpb
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 06-19-08
          • 699

          #5
          Originally posted by RoyBacon
          Thought the fork was supposed to fix this? I've waited 3.5 painful days.
          You're confusing one of the forks for something else. If anything the bcash fork is causing the confirmation slowdown because miners can switch between bitcoin and bcash fork whenever they like, causing the transaction buildup. Right now, there is a little buildup.
          Also doesn't help that most wallets have yet to implement Segwit upgrade for bitcoin, which would help fees and confirmation time.

          Can always check https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ to approximate how big a fee you will need to get your transaction through when you want.
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          • MalikHusam
            SBR MVP
            • 09-07-16
            • 2685

            #6
            So if minimum recommended transaction fee (25 blocks) is 0.0005 BTC and I tried 0.000025, is it ever going to confirm? 21 days?
            Last edited by MalikHusam; 12-15-17, 11:28 PM.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61396

              #7
              Originally posted by franklissa
              I have two transaction that have been stuck on blockchain since Monday and they both are still unconfirmed. I saw videos of doing a child to parent transaction to raise the fee however I don't think I can do it because the transaction were sent from a website to my localbitcoins account. Will it eventually be confirmed? If it doesnt get confirmed, does it return to the book ? How does all of this work. Thanks
              This is kind of a complicated question to answer simply.

              There is no specified expiry time for transactions. It's up to each node running the bitcoin software to choose when they will drop it.

              Only when all nodes your wallet communicates with no longer see the transaction in the "mempool" waiting for a miner to pick it up will your wallet allow you to send those funds again. As an aside, only once that new transaction is confirmed will the original one actually be 100% purged from the system.

              The Default time in the software is set to 72 hours, and that is supposed to be about how long it will take... BUT there are other factors that can affect this.

              Some wallets will automatically rebroadcast your transaction every 24 hours until it sees it picked up by a miner for example. Effectively meaning it will never time out.

              But also, that timeout function is not the only way errant transactions are cleared. Part of each block is reserved for clearing these low fee transactions too.


              The simple answer is that if you tx is not confirmed within around 3 days, you should see it come available in your wallet again sometime after that. But no one can really tell you the exact timeframe for sure.
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              • Alfa1234
                SBR MVP
                • 12-19-15
                • 2722

                #8
                To clarify Optional's post, normally the coins will be returned to the book if the transaction remains unconfirmed after about 72hrs. They will not credit the money back to your account automatically in most cases, so you should ask them.

                You could also post the transaction here, there are ways to try and get the transaction picked up by the miners (they have been discussed in the forum here as well).
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                • Semper Fidelis
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-22-11
                  • 1999

                  #9
                  Hello all, in the same boat here and really needing some help! My transaction was sent from my blockchain wallet as a deposit to a sportsbook literally over 4 days ago - 12/12 at 12:50am. Still showing unconfirmed and has not been returned to my wallet either, almost like sitting there in limbo! I have already tried accelerating the day after (12/13) but still nothing! I can paste the transaction here if that would help!

                  Just don’t know what to do now, please help! I am very thankful to you guys for all the invaluable information here, as always!
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                  • littlekona
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-19-15
                    • 5242

                    #10
                    hey guys....here is a new accelerator i read about that is pay of but reasonable fee only 0.0007669 BTC it says with a refund guarantee
                    I have not tried...if anyone does please report
                    http://bitminers.pro/
                    https://themerkle.com/bitminers-will-confirm-your-pending-bitcoin-transfer-for-only-10/
                    What is Bitminers?

                    Bitminers is a bitcoin transaction accelerator that allows you to get faster confirmations on your unconfirmed transactions. We charge only 0.0007669 BTC for all transactions.
                    How bitcoin accelerator works?
                    We push your transactions to multiple pools we are working with and even if you pay 0.01$ fees, you still have the chance to get the transaction confirmed through our accelerator service immediately.
                    Refund?
                    If your transaction is not confirmed after 10 minutes, we will provide you with a full refund within a day. This policy is not applicable to the tx which are removed or double-spent during the acceleration process.
                    Confirmation time?
                    If your tx has 0 or 0.01$ fees it can take upto 30-60 Minutes while fees above 0.50$ will be confirmed within 10 minutes. Please make sure your tx doesn't have unconfirmed inputs.
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61396

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Semper Fidelis
                      Hello all, in the same boat here and really needing some help! My transaction was sent from my blockchain wallet as a deposit to a sportsbook literally over 4 days ago - 12/12 at 12:50am. Still showing unconfirmed and has not been returned to my wallet either, almost like sitting there in limbo! I have already tried accelerating the day after (12/13) but still nothing! I can paste the transaction here if that would help!

                      Just don’t know what to do now, please help! I am very thankful to you guys for all the invaluable information here, as always!
                      Sure, post the tx link and we can have a look.
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                      • Semper Fidelis
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-11
                        • 1999

                        #12
                        Here’s the TX:

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                        • Semper Fidelis
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-22-11
                          • 1999

                          #13
                          Thanks in advance Optional for looking into it and anyone else seeing this trying to help! Perfect example of what makes this forum so much better than anything else out there!
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 61396

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Semper Fidelis
                            The fee is low but not so low that it will never be picked up by a miner.

                            There is a part of each block reserved for clearing these unattractive transactions.


                            The Blockchain.info/wallet does not auto rebroadcast so if you do nothing, that bitcoin will come back if a miner does not pick it up within 3 days or so.

                            Every time you rebroadcast or try an accelerator it refreshes the transaction and will reset the time to wait for it to come back available in your own wallet.

                            But that's what I would do, keep rebroadcasting/accelerating.
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                            • Semper Fidelis
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-22-11
                              • 1999

                              #15
                              Thanks for replying Optional! So I should just keep trying the accelerator thing even though it hasn’t worked yet? Just makes me a little nervous at this point with it going on 5 days now and feeling like my funds have virtually disappeared!

                              Is there an accelerator you recommend? Obviously I can’t use the one listed previously as my transaction amount is barely more than the $16 it’d cost to use them!

                              I’ve been using ConfirmTX but doesn’t seem like it’s wanting to work this time!
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 61396

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Semper Fidelis
                                Thanks for replying Optional! So I should just keep trying the accelerator thing even though it hasn’t worked yet? Just makes me a little nervous at this point with it going on 5 days now and feeling like my funds have virtually disappeared!

                                Is there an accelerator you recommend? Obviously I can’t use the one listed previously as my transaction amount is barely more than the $16 it’d cost to use them!

                                I’ve been using ConfirmTX but doesn’t seem like it’s wanting to work this time!
                                The Viabtc free accelerator has been reported to work by several people recently. You need to try and submit at 1 second past the hour to get in.

                                You might need to try a few times on the hour to get it in.


                                But don't worry about losing it. It will either get there or re-appear in your wallet. There isn't anywhere else for it to go and it has to be accounted for on the blockchain ledger.
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                                • littlekona
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5242

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                  The Viabtc free accelerator has been reported to work by several people recently. You need to try and submit at 1 second past the hour to get in.

                                  You might need to try a few times on the hour to get it in.


                                  But don't worry about losing it. It will either get there or re-appear in your wallet. There isn't anywhere else for it to go and it has to be accounted for on the blockchain ledger.
                                  Viabtc is only one thats free that has worked for me and Optional is right you need to do it right at top of hour as its busy...it took me once 3 days just to get them to accept one and then it confirmed 2 hours later so its good IMO
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                                  • franklissa
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-27-14
                                    • 116

                                    #18
                                    The two transaction id are

                                    c840e78170b3b75efa72d0ef54432ba753e284cc 1b74fac695592766d5aecc68

                                    ceff935ac2ec219a2412f083f0ed364cfd74b01d 277369e9330deaf9720cc334


                                    Tried numerous accelator and nothing. If any of you can help I would deeply appreciate it.

                                    Thanks

                                    Links

                                    blockchain.info/address/1KLJGbMFPNZQE4GZwUBcc3VA6ofMMbnhAT



                                    blockchain.info/address/16fNbmH9eB479Esvus725YqpHFxuzCtYt9
                                    Last edited by franklissa; 12-16-17, 02:28 PM.
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                                    • littlekona
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-19-15
                                      • 5242

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by franklissa
                                      The two transaction id are

                                      c840e78170b3b75efa72d0ef54432ba753e284cc 1b74fac695592766d5aecc68

                                      ceff935ac2ec219a2412f083f0ed364cfd74b01d 277369e9330deaf9720cc334


                                      Tried numerous accelator and nothing. If any of you can help I would deeply appreciate it.

                                      Thanks

                                      Links

                                      blockchain.info/address/1KLJGbMFPNZQE4GZwUBcc3VA6ofMMbnhAT



                                      blockchain.info/address/16fNbmH9eB479Esvus725YqpHFxuzCtYt9
                                      Try the bitminer one I posted....seems it’s worth the small price and if it works it may save on fees down road....ceff935ac2ec219a2412f083f0ed364c fd74b01d277369e9330deaf9720cc334 Is this one from fairlay? Looks just like the last one I did before priority came available exact miners fee and size but way smaller btc withdrawl for me ....it took over 3 days then I got it into ViaBTC and it confirmed In 2 hours
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                                      • littlekona
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-19-15
                                        • 5242

                                        #20
                                        FYI I just got this one in ViaBTC for u lets see when confirms
                                        ceff935ac2ec219a2412f083f0ed364cfd74b01d 277369e9330deaf9720cc334
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                                        • Semper Fidelis
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-22-11
                                          • 1999

                                          #21
                                          Could you try mine as well when you have a chance? Been trying every hour but can never get it in time, literally seconds after it turns :00 on the hour but always full every single time!
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                                          • Semper Fidelis
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-22-11
                                            • 1999

                                            #22
                                            I’ll repost the TX again just in case since it was in older post:

                                            30dc9740dcc3080583091672a7eb1fd764a408a9 d9d5e6192051c3e0e8980685

                                            Has anyone ever seen it take this long before? Just after midnight tonight it will be 5 days since I sent it!
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                                            • convick
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-03-11
                                              • 3954

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Semper Fidelis
                                              I’ll repost the TX again just in case since it was in older post:

                                              30dc9740dcc3080583091672a7eb1fd764a408a9 d9d5e6192051c3e0e8980685

                                              Has anyone ever seen it take this long before? Just after midnight tonight it will be 5 days since I sent it!
                                              5days? Man, makes me worry about a transaction I sent almost two days ago. I'm actually hoping it gets sent back to my wallet since price has gone up a bit from Thursday!
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                                              • Semper Fidelis
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-22-11
                                                • 1999

                                                #24
                                                Finally got the ‘acceleration succeeded’ message on viabtc! Hopefully that means it’ll finally process, maybe even before the 5 day mark (which is shortly after midnight). Will keep everyone posted and let you know once it does go through!

                                                Thanks again to Optional and everyone so willing to help and advise! Surely this has to be the longest anyone has seen yet, but glad to be a live example and real proof of everything we’ve been discussing - hopefully others find this thread insightful and learn just as much as I have today!
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                                                • littlekona
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-19-15
                                                  • 5242

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by littlekona
                                                  FYI I just got this one in ViaBTC for u lets see when confirms
                                                  ceff935ac2ec219a2412f083f0ed364cfd74b01d 277369e9330deaf9720cc334
                                                  It confirmed! You other guys keep us posted
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                                                  • Semper Fidelis
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-22-11
                                                    • 1999

                                                    #26
                                                    Mine has already confirmed as well! Literally got first confirmation within 15 min after successful acceleration, ended up having to contact sportsbook after several confirmations but funds deposited in the account within an hour after viabtc acceleration!

                                                    Thank you so much for helping tonight - I hope others have learned as much as I did tonight! Viabtc works extremely fast!
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                                                    • littlekona
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-19-15
                                                      • 5242

                                                      #27
                                                      I’m surprised that not more of these mining pools do accelerators and charge reasonable fee for premium confirmation services....could make a nice profit In these times
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