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  • ace7550
    SBR MVP
    • 05-08-15
    • 3729

    #1
    Interesting Chat with HRwager
    I'm not a total loser so they don't want my business...

    ace7550

    My account is hrw$$$$. I got an email about a 225% free play bonus if I make a deposit today. Is that still available?









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    Henry

    Ok, yes we can still offer you today, for deposits over $300







    ace7550

    Great, I would like to deposit $1000.











    Henry

    On BitCoin?







    ace7550

    Yes please











    Henry

    Please hold









    Austin, Im sorry, but I just check with our security team, we have decided that we are going to take a pass on your business.







    ace7550

    why?











    Henry

    You just do not fit in the profile for the customers that we are looking for. Im sorry for the inconvenience, I will make sure I take you off our mailing list.







    ace7550

    In what way do I not fit the profile?











    Henry

    We only provide our services to recreational players







    ace7550

    I don't think I have ever made a withdrawal from HRwager. I've lost all my money every time I have deposited. How am I not recreational?









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    Henry

    Well, our security team is part of a large network comprise by many companies in this business, and your profile is not recreational.









    Based on your action with us and other companies, we were able to determine that you are not.







    ace7550

    got it. it's funny in this industry how "recreational" means "losers" and "professional" means "winners"











    Henry

    Im sorry about that.







    ace7550

    I am up right now but don't you guys know that the house always wins? Don't you want to keep people gambling for as long as possible?











    Henry

    At the moment we are going to take a Pass.








  • Crusherrr
    SBR MVP
    • 06-27-16
    • 3649

    #2
    Consider it a gift. You don't want to rollover $58,500 when they limit you to $250 per game.

    Are you a winner at BetPhoenix, SkyBook, or Betmania?

    This group of books HATES Bitcoin. Their cashier never works and their bonuses are only valid on P2P transfers.
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    • ace7550
      SBR MVP
      • 05-08-15
      • 3729

      #3
      Yeah I took quite a bit outta skybook. They paid with bitcoin in a somewhat timely manner though.
      And that's what I mean, at $58,500 the odds of me rolling it are very low. Surprised they wouldn't take my money.
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      • Crusherrr
        SBR MVP
        • 06-27-16
        • 3649

        #4
        Yeah very little chance you complete rollover in a positive position when capped at $250/game

        They don't allow anything but 100% freeplay for Bitcoin as far as I know. You being a winner at Skybook also could have made a difference.
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        • PharaohUB
          SBR MVP
          • 01-23-07
          • 4865

          #5
          Good to know these companies are sharing our info amongst one another without our consent. Wouldn’t be a far stretch to imagine these companies selling our data all over the place or giving it willingly to the government. I would be interested in knowing which “a” rated companies participate in this kind of crap. As if taking our money wasn’t enough now they are sharing our personal l information. These traditional books are toast anyway. Anonymous Bitcoin only books for me and should be the only option US players consider if you value your private life and don’t want to be on some big list for the govt and your neighbor to see someday.
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 61457

            #6
            Originally posted by PharaohUB
            Good to know these companies are sharing our info amongst one another without our consent. Wouldn’t be a far stretch to imagine these companies selling our data all over the place or giving it willingly to the government. I would be interested in knowing which “a” rated companies participate in this kind of crap. As if taking our money wasn’t enough now they are sharing our personal l information. These traditional books are toast anyway. Anonymous Bitcoin only books for me and should be the only option US players consider if you value your private life and don’t want to be on some big list for the govt and your neighbor to see someday.
            As Crusher said, they have the same admin people as BetPhoenix, SkyBook and Betmania.

            That's the "other books" they are referring to.
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            • Crusherrr
              SBR MVP
              • 06-27-16
              • 3649

              #7
              Originally posted by Optional
              As Crusher said, they have the same admin people as BetPhoenix, SkyBook and Betmania.

              That's the "other books" they are referring to.
              Exactly this. Sites on the same network without a doubt share that information. I wouldn't worry too much about others unless you scam them. They share information on scammers for sure.
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              • PharaohUB
                SBR MVP
                • 01-23-07
                • 4865

                #8
                You think if someone went to Tony at 5dimes and said look you can go to jail for the rest of your life or turn over all your records that he wouldn’t do it? Just saying be careful that is all. I like to think I can trust the bigger books too but unless they have a documented and audited strategy on how they protect your personal information and purge transactions over time I wouldn’t assume you are safe but that’s just my opinion.
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                • ace7550
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-08-15
                  • 3729

                  #9
                  HRwager sent me an email offering the 225% FP:

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                  • ace7550
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-08-15
                    • 3729

                    #10
                    Yeah I won at Skybook, but I didn't scam anyone, I just got lucky and was able to meet the roll.
                    I just don't get HR's decision here. The math doesn't change just cuz I won once. I am still very likely to lose whatever I deposit to them.
                    I was happy they offered up the fact that they share information with each other. I always figured they did but this confirms it.
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