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  • Hareeba!
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 07-01-06
    • 37194

    #1
    Matchbook booting Aussies
    This week
  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 61390

    #2
    Where is that news coming from Hareeba?

    They still have AUS on the signup form for now.

    Funny how little regulation seems to do to benefit players in the end eh?
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    • GradyFuson
      SBR High Roller
      • 06-03-17
      • 218

      #3
      Emailed Australian customers letting us know that effective Sept. 13th we're done.
      Sh*t!!
      Is there anyway around this?
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61390

        #4
        Originally posted by GradyFuson
        Emailed Australian customers letting us know that effective Sept. 13th we're done.
        Sh*t!!
        Is there anyway around this?
        Brokers like asianconnect88.com and premiumtradings.com probably the easiest option.
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #5
          Why are they pulling the plug on Australia?

          I would hope they would be getting into more markets, not pulling out from some.
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          • Krashman
            SBR MVP
            • 07-24-09
            • 3748

            #6
            May be the same reason they booted out Canadians 3 years ago.

            Although they never explained that either, still a mystery.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61390

              #7
              Originally posted by KVB
              Why are they pulling the plug on Australia?

              I would hope they would be getting into more markets, not pulling out from some.
              Australia govt been trying to boot all non-locally-regulated books from the market.

              I'd guess either Matchbook sees some benefit in not flouting the Aussie laws any longer, or a Matchy executive wants to live in Australia.
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              • Hareeba!
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 07-01-06
                • 37194

                #8
                Why is it so hard for operators in this industry to tell the truth?

                All Matchbook will say is "commercial reasons following review of licensing framework"

                Gobbledygook!
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                • Alfa1234
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-19-15
                  • 2722

                  #9
                  That's basically saying "its expensive for us to get an Aussie license so we're not going to do that because we don't have enough clients there to make it viable."

                  As Optional mentioned, simply open an account at 1 of the reputable agents and you'll have a Matchbook account again (at 1.25% commission).
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                  • Hareeba!
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 07-01-06
                    • 37194

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Alfa1234
                    That's basically saying "its expensive for us to get an Aussie license so we're not going to do that because we don't have enough clients there to make it viable."

                    As Optional mentioned, simply open an account at 1 of the reputable agents and you'll have a Matchbook account again (at 1.25% commission).
                    I suppose that's an option but I really don't want to have bet in other currencies.
                    Also looks like there are transaction costs and one needs to use Skype?
                    Currently I pay no deposit or withdrawal fees and only 0.75% commission on most of my Matchbook bets.
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61390

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hareeba!

                      I suppose that's an option but I really don't want to have bet in other currencies.
                      Also looks like there are transaction costs and one needs to use Skype?
                      Currently I pay no deposit or withdrawal fees and only 0.75% commission on most of my Matchbook bets.
                      You don't have to use Skype, they can give you a sub account.

                      But you will need to use a VPN if not placing bets over Skype.

                      You can wire deposit with them but bitcoin is their preferred currency.

                      If you deposit by bitcoin it is converted into US$ or Euro or whatver at the time it's credited. SO you are not betting in bitcoin currency.
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                      • Hareeba!
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 07-01-06
                        • 37194

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        You don't have to use Skype, they can give you a sub account.

                        But you will need to use a VPN if not placing bets over Skype.

                        You can wire deposit with them but bitcoin is their preferred currency.

                        If you deposit by bitcoin it is converted into US$ or Euro or whatver at the time it's credited. SO you are not betting in bitcoin currency.
                        Ok, thanks.
                        But Sportmarket is looking a better option for me.
                        Any known issues with them?
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61390

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hareeba!

                          Ok, thanks.
                          But Sportmarket is looking a better option for me.
                          Any known issues with them?
                          Don't know much about them but would be very interested in what you think if you do join.
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                          • GradyFuson
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 06-03-17
                            • 218

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Optional
                            You don't have to use Skype, they can give you a sub account.

                            But you will need to use a VPN if not placing bets over Skype.

                            You can wire deposit with them but bitcoin is their preferred currency.

                            If you deposit by bitcoin it is converted into US$ or Euro or whatver at the time it's credited. SO you are not betting in bitcoin currency.
                            My understanding is that US$ is not an option, and betting over skype is available but the website is also useable (with a vpn)

                            The main inconvenience being having to bet in Euros.
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                            • Alfa1234
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-19-15
                              • 2722

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hareeba!
                              Ok, thanks.
                              But Sportmarket is looking a better option for me.
                              Any known issues with them?
                              I used them in the past, quick good service and got paid...but changed to Premiumtradings because of the small cashback they offer on all turnover.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                Euros close to USA dollar

                                Good option


                                Not offered in usd
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                                • littlekona
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5242

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by GradyFuson
                                  Emailed Australian customers letting us know that effective Sept. 13th we're done.
                                  Sh*t!!
                                  Is there anyway around this?
                                  Check out Fairlay....many same match makers have scripts tied in from Matchbook to fairlay offerings esp in UK horse racing and usa sports. they have excellent odds and instant BTC payouts plus Zero Commissions
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                                  • Hareeba!
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 07-01-06
                                    • 37194

                                    #18
                                    No real surprise that the lawmakers didn't forsee the consequences of their shortsighted policies:

                                    NZ Racing Board forced to tell Australian clients their TAB accounts are now closed.
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 61390

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                      No real surprise that the lawmakers didn't forsee the consequences of their shortsighted policies:

                                      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news...ectid=11922017
                                      I hope it blows up in their face and only affects non-intended targets like this.

                                      Been playing poker at Crown this week and surprised just how many Australians think they can no longer play poker online anywhere any more as well... as PokerStars banned Aussies as a result of this too.

                                      So it stops NZ TAB use, and blocks the main legal poker site Aussies want to use... but has zero effect on most of the actual targets. Pinny hasnt even reacted, which is a surprise.
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                                      • Hareeba!
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 07-01-06
                                        • 37194

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        Don't know much about them but would be very interested in what you think if you do join.
                                        I signed up with Sportmarket early last week after I was booted from Matchbook.

                                        Pros:
                                        Access to Matchbook, Pinnacle, SBOBet, Betdaq, IBC current odds
                                        Commission on Matchbook 1.8% and Betdaq 1.2% (both on wins only)
                                        AUD currency account

                                        Cons:
                                        1% fees on Skrill deposits and withdrawals
                                        bids retried for only 1 minute before lapsing (but 24 hours for soccer!)
                                        support (including result settlements) appears to be available only during Malta business hours - not ideal if betting on US sport
                                        bet values seem to be subject to constant currency conversion as they keep varying from time of placement
                                        somewhat confusing software platform and their accounting is very very untidy with bet summary numbers varying to those carried forward to the account balance page.

                                        They do also offer to set you up with accounts with Matchbook. That could be something I'll move into so that I can place orders for better odds which won't lapse after one minute.
                                        Last edited by Hareeba!; 09-18-17, 06:37 PM.
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                                        • GradyFuson
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 06-03-17
                                          • 218

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                          I signed up with Sportmarket early last week after I was booted from Matchbook.

                                          Pros:
                                          Access to Matchbook, Pinnacle, SBOBet, Betdaq, IBC current odds
                                          Commission on Matchbook 1.8% and Betdaq 1.2% (both on wins only)
                                          AUD currency account

                                          Cons:
                                          1% fees on Skrill deposits and withdrawals
                                          bids retried for only 1 minute before lapsing (but 24 hours for soccer!)
                                          support (including result settlements) appears to be available only during Malta business hours - not ideal if betting on US sport
                                          bet values seem to be subject to constant currency conversion as they keep varying from time of placement
                                          somewhat confusing software platform and their accounting is very very untidy with bet summary numbers varying to those carried forward to the account balance page.

                                          They do also offer to set you up with accounts with Matchbook. That could be something I'll move into so that I can place orders for better odds which won't lapse after one minute.
                                          Hareeba, any update on your experience?

                                          If still not happy, I would try AsianConnect. I've been with them for a couple of weeks now.

                                          Pro:
                                          Exact same platform
                                          Withdrawals (within their working hours) take 10-30min and are in Bitcoin. My balance is in Euros and the exchange takes a couple minutes but generally the rate has been very fair.

                                          Only con for me is that my balance is now in euros, but it's and easy exchange rate to get comfortable with.
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                                          • littlekona
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-19-15
                                            • 5242

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by GradyFuson
                                            Hareeba, any update on your experience?

                                            If still not happy, I would try AsianConnect. I've been with them for a couple of weeks now.

                                            Pro:
                                            Exact same platform
                                            Withdrawals (within their working hours) take 10-30min and are in Bitcoin. My balance is in Euros and the exchange takes a couple minutes but generally the rate has been very fair.

                                            Only con for me is that my balance is now in euros, but it's and easy exchange rate to get comfortable with.
                                            do you get the matchbook new account promo 500 commission refund for first 5 weeks if register through assianconnect ?
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                                            • GradyFuson
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 06-03-17
                                              • 218

                                              #23
                                              My guess would be no. I didn't because I'm not considered a new customer.
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                                              • Hareeba!
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 07-01-06
                                                • 37194

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by GradyFuson
                                                Hareeba, any update on your experience?

                                                If still not happy, I would try AsianConnect. I've been with them for a couple of weeks now.

                                                Pro:
                                                Exact same platform
                                                Withdrawals (within their working hours) take 10-30min and are in Bitcoin. My balance is in Euros and the exchange takes a couple minutes but generally the rate has been very fair.

                                                Only con for me is that my balance is now in euros, but it's and easy exchange rate to get comfortable with.
                                                Overall, quite satisfied with Sportmarket.
                                                Now that I've learned a bit more about the way they record bets, my earlier complaints aren't so much of an issue.
                                                Some settlements do appear a bit slow but most are reasonable. Commission debits can be up to a couple of days after the event though.
                                                I've been told that they are working on improvements which aren't too far away.
                                                I did ask about getting a dedicated Matchbook account but apparently that isn't possible yet. They said to ask again in about a month's time.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  Hareeba why not get an account at AsianConnect88 and just have them open up up matchbook account
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                                                  • Hareeba!
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 07-01-06
                                                    • 37194

                                                    #26
                                                    Well sad to say the end has come for my very long and, until recently, very satisfactory association with Skrill (Moneybookers).

                                                    A shame that they themselves didn't bother to inform me but all the accounts I used them for to transfer funds to and from have now advised me that Skrill no longer allows transfers from or to Aussies.
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                                                    • bookie
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 2112

                                                      #27
                                                      Welcome to the nonsense of red tape and inexplicable governmental and corporate decisions you've been mocking us Americans for having to deal with for years.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        How does Matchbook stay in business?
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                                                        • MikeJo
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 12-21-17
                                                          • 31

                                                          #29
                                                          What are the exchanges for U.S customers?
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                                                          • Alfa1234
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-19-15
                                                            • 2722

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MikeJo
                                                            What are the exchanges for U.S customers?
                                                            There aren't any that officially accept US clients. You can get an account at Matchbook and some Betfair clones through a few agents if you want it really badly.
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