Very disappointed with line manager at Skybook/HR wager

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  • Triumph
    SBR MVP
    • 09-18-12
    • 1235

    #1
    Very disappointed with line manager at Skybook/HR wager
    I called in a wager asking to use my freeplay, it was put in wrong by the teller, the line manager heard it on tape, then tells me Im out of luck, he won't fix it.
  • Triumph
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    • 09-18-12
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    #2
    You would think a C rated book would hear tape of a wager and be able to correct the screw up. Not hardly.
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    • Mikeyanks23
      SBR MVP
      • 11-30-10
      • 4517

      #3
      Skybook and hrwager share software but have different ownership.



      "The client called back and we listened to the tape. He was given a readback by the clerk and the client confirmed the bet"

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      Last edited by Mikeyanks23; 06-24-16, 07:01 PM.
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      • Triumph
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        • 09-18-12
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        #4
        [QUOTE=Mikeyanks23;25920686]Skybook and hrwager share software but have different ownership.



        "The client called back and we listened to the tape. He was given a readback by the clerk and the client confirmed the bet"



        Great Mikeyanks, lets get the whole story straight, I called in a $50 bet on the Reds and specified I wanted to use my freeplay, The readback said "You have the reds to win $50" So its somehow my fault that the clerk forgot to click the freeplay button?
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        • Triumph
          SBR MVP
          • 09-18-12
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          #5
          Its ridiculous that the manager Javier heard me specify I wanted it to be freeplay and still wont make the correction.
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          • Triumph
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            • 09-18-12
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            #6
            That's classic that he responded to you so quickly Mickeyanks, it took me two hours to get my joke of a response.
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            • Triumph
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              • 09-18-12
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              #7
              Either way I lost the bet, but they could have corrected the clerks mistake and given me the bet I called in after it was clearly heard on the tape of my call.
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 60711

                #8
                Is this HR Wager or Skybook Triumph?

                Sounds weird they would not fix the error if it is as clear as you suggest on the tape. Feel free to send in a complaint form if you would like SBR to have a look at it for you.
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                • Bill Dozer
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                  • 07-12-05
                  • 10894

                  #9
                  Curious... When did you call in in relation to the game starting? When did you realize it was incorrect?
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                  • Triumph
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                    • 09-18-12
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                    Curious... When did you call in in relation to the game starting? When did you realize it was incorrect?
                    I called yesterday at noon, I logged in today and saw my freeplay balance the same and cash balance down 50. That's when I called to ask to hear the tape, I was sure I said freeplay, they heard me say freeplay, but I did confirm the bet thinking it was punched in correctly. I guess I need to restate "I want to use freeplay" upon confirmation from now on.
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                    • Triumph
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                      • 09-18-12
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      Is this HR Wager or Skybook Triumph?

                      Sounds weird they would not fix the error if it is as clear as you suggest on the tape. Feel free to send in a complaint form if you would like SBR to have a look at it for you.
                      It was my HRwager account , I don't see the need for a complaint, I reserve my complaints for no plays and slow pays, or when I get stiffed on a wager, this bet was a loser either way, I called In a free play wager and the clerk entered it incorrectly,
                      It's on tape so I thought it would be corrected, apparently it won't.
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                      • trytrytry
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-13-06
                        • 23649

                        #12
                        thats totally the wrong way to use a free play anyway you got lucky
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                        • TheGuesser
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 2714

                          #13
                          I actually agree with the Book here. When the bet was read back, as to win $50, you should have corrected it, no I'm risking a $50 Free play, since(I'm assuming) the bet wasn't even money, and again, I'm assuming you were betting a $50 Free play, not some odd amount of FP, to win $50. That being said, they are being hard asses over a small bet. If you're a good customer, they should change it as a goodwill gesture.
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                          • Buffalo Nickle
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-12-14
                            • 3228

                            #14
                            If you have a problem at HR Wager, George says he is always there for you. He is there in good times and bad. If George says no, that is the end of the line.
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                            • Bill Dozer
                              www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                              • 07-12-05
                              • 10894

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Triumph
                              You would think a C rated book would hear tape of a wager and be able to correct the screw up. Not hardly.
                              Maybe an A or B book but it comes down to how the manager perceives the player. For the value of about 25 bucks... they should have just deleted the FP and credited your account. However, the rule of thumb is players should check their pending wagers to verify they were entered as desired.
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                              • relaaxx
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-15-06
                                • 3281

                                #16
                                of course the op is right. the bet should be corrected. take your money out and play somewhere else. 1st file the complaint. don't make so easy for them to ignore and forget about their mistake.
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                                • Bill Dozer
                                  www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                  • 07-12-05
                                  • 10894

                                  #17
                                  We could definitely chat it with them.

                                  The thing that we always try to keep in mind is scale. If the next guy has the same problem but his free play was $500 or $1000, then real money is involved. The book would say this guy is a shot taker and waited until after the game. He should have checked his ticket. So... we need to have good advice in these threads and not set a bad precedent also players need to make sure everyone is on the same page before the game starts.

                                  The readback issues are nothing new. We have heard the Bill/Bulls get mixed, MLB games where pitcher Weaver and his brother Weaver get swapped, different games in double header etc. Its not common and less now with most online-only but when the books take 1000s of bets per day there are cases.

                                  Again in this case, the player isn't trying to take advantage of a mistake to squeeze out $25 bucks. HW should just credit him.
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                                  • mtneer1212
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                                    • 06-22-08
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TheGuesser
                                    I actually agree with the Book here. When the bet was read back, as to win $50, you should have corrected it, no I'm risking a $50 Free play, since(I'm assuming) the bet wasn't even money, and again, I'm assuming you were betting a $50 Free play, not some odd amount of FP, to win $50. That being said, they are being hard asses over a small bet. If you're a good customer, they should change it as a goodwill gesture.
                                    I would agree with you if the wrong team was confirmed on the readback..... but n ot confirming it was a freeplay seems much tougher to enforce. Half of these clerks barely speak English.
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                                    • lilpete
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-03-15
                                      • 1598

                                      #19
                                      people still call in wagers? why not just use your smartphone
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388189

                                        #20
                                        Tough break and call here
                                        Not big money so hr wager shouid change it
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                                        • Bill Dozer
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                                          • 07-12-05
                                          • 10894

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by lilpete
                                          people still call in wagers? why not just use your smartphone
                                          Most books are internet only. Some of the North American books used to go internet only because of the ol wire act. Now everyone does it because its cheaper and more efficient. Few have a phone without internet.
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                                          • mtneer1212
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-22-08
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by lilpete
                                            people still call in wagers? why not just use your smartphone
                                            I will still phone in a bet if I am driving, and the game is starting in 5 minutes, and I want to get a bet down, and don't have time to navigate the web while driving.
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                                            • Triumph
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                                              • 09-18-12
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                                              #23
                                              I guess I should be satisfied that the book took the trouble to check the tape, I thought I might be going senile, at least I know I really did ask to use freeplay and they heard the wager I placed, they decided to make me live with the clerks error, its's ultimately the books call.
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                                              • the_orangekat
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-08-07
                                                • 1267

                                                #24
                                                HRWager just paid me out $1600 - no questions asked - I'm sure they'll work with you on a $50 wager. I find it hard to believe you are getting this much pushback. Talk to George.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388189

                                                  #25
                                                  tell them to give you free play
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                                                  • Triumph
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                                                    • 09-18-12
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    tell them to give you free play
                                                    That's a nice thought JJ , but the line manager Javier was determined to make me live with the clerks error, it didn't seem like he would give me the time of day.
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                                                    • BigBlueNYG
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-12-11
                                                      • 686

                                                      #27
                                                      Again talk to GEORGE
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                                                      • Bill Dozer
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                                                        • 07-12-05
                                                        • 10894

                                                        #28
                                                        Ive forwarded this to HRwager mgt.
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                                                        • Triumph
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                          Ive forwarded this to HRwager mgt.
                                                          Thanks Bill but I have already lost the rest of my balance, Im not going to post up there again.
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                                                          • Bill Dozer
                                                            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                            • 07-12-05
                                                            • 10894

                                                            #30
                                                            Triumph
                                                            HRwager mgt gave you 50 cash, double what was suggested.
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                                                            • Triumph
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                                                              • 09-18-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                              Triumph
                                                              HRwager mgt gave you 50 cash, double what was suggested.
                                                              Thanks Bill I just saw the $50, Thanks SBR for the support, George is a class act.
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                                                              • Bill Dozer
                                                                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                                • 07-12-05
                                                                • 10894

                                                                #32
                                                                Good luck Triumph
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