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  • bostonboss
    SBR MVP
    • 02-04-09
    • 3169

    #71
    hope when you report to the authorities that you have all your tax info....im sure the IRS will want proof.
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    • bostonboss
      SBR MVP
      • 02-04-09
      • 3169

      #72
      typical sbr john and lou sitting here with their thumbs up their ass and not banning this guy
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      • swordsandtequila
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-23-12
        • 9758

        #73
        Originally posted by bostonboss
        hope when you report to the authorities that you have all your tax info....im sure the IRS will want proof.
        Only pay taxes if withdrawing
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        • bostonboss
          SBR MVP
          • 02-04-09
          • 3169

          #74
          lol luckyjay just another guy who deposits rarely withdraws lol
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          • bostonboss
            SBR MVP
            • 02-04-09
            • 3169

            #75
            im sure those 3 deposits were all today you sound like a loser.
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            • bostonboss
              SBR MVP
              • 02-04-09
              • 3169

              #76
              heritage(although i do not play there.....) is a solid book and good out for usa players.
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              • swordsandtequila
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-23-12
                • 9758

                #77
                If this put him over the edge I'd pay good money to watch an exchange with Tony @ 5Dimes
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                • bostonboss
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-04-09
                  • 3169

                  #78
                  if you had half a brain you should have taken the free play and kept quiet....glad they kicked you to the curb....now you can go play at18th hole
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                  • bostonboss
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-04-09
                    • 3169

                    #79
                    Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                    If this put him over the edge I'd pay good money to watch an exchange with Tony @ 5Dimes
                    tony would destroy this guy....op would need a diaper change after that
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                    • onemoregoal
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-04-13
                      • 8149

                      #80
                      You would have lost it anyway....
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                      • capone1899
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-16-11
                        • 1054

                        #81
                        Originally posted by bostonboss
                        heritage(although i do not play there.....) is a solid book and good out for usa players.
                        Moron commenting on another book he doesn't play at (just like 5dimes). Are you retarded.........really, are you?
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                        • bostonboss
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-04-09
                          • 3169

                          #82
                          capone keep playing under your wife's name....im sure tony will allow it...ive heard you and your wife look alike..and that you had the same last name before you got married....
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                          • 23Edler_Salo6
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 02-08-12
                            • 200

                            #83
                            Props to Heritage for stepping up to offer a resolution when they were already 100% in the right. A+ book, wish I played there.
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                            • capone1899
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-16-11
                              • 1054

                              #84
                              Originally posted by bostonboss
                              capone keep playing under your wife's name....im sure tony will allow it...ive heard you and your wife look alike..and that you had the same last name before you got married....

                              That sounds like something I would have told someone in elementary school. Grow up, seriously
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                              • fingas
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 03-29-08
                                • 314

                                #85
                                luckyjay, grow up

                                I usually bet on tennis with european bookies.
                                In this particular sport it is very common to have players withdrawals after game start.

                                There are several rules in place for tennis withdrawals:

                                - some bookies void all the bets;
                                - others count as winner / loser if one point is played;
                                - others if 1st set is complete;

                                Each bookie has its own rule.

                                Plus, there is also the fact that outdoor matches can be delayed or even moved into indoor surfaces (another rule affecting the wagers).

                                So, as you see, BEFORE BETTING at least read the terms and conditions for the sport.

                                From what have been told so far, Heritage abide by their rules, if you do not agree, well, tough luck.
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                                • LT Profits
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-27-06
                                  • 90963

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by fingas
                                  luckyjay, grow up

                                  I usually bet on tennis with european bookies.
                                  In this particular sport it is very common to have players withdrawals after game start.

                                  There are several rules in place for tennis withdrawals:

                                  - some bookies void all the bets;
                                  - others count as winner / loser if one point is played;
                                  - others if 1st set is complete;

                                  Each bookie has its own rule.

                                  Plus, there is also the fact that outdoor matches can be delayed or even moved into indoor surfaces (another rule affecting the wagers).

                                  So, as you see, BEFORE BETTING at least read the terms and conditions for the sport.

                                  From what have been told so far, Heritage abide by their rules, if you do not agree, well, tough luck.
                                  Yes, more precisely, Heritage abides by the Vegas standards as do most USA facing books.
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                                  • Majman
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 05-27-10
                                    • 149

                                    #87
                                    Obviously, this guy has gone a bit off the reservation. In my opinion, Heritage should grade these all as winners just to show their customers that they want to show good faith. I am sure they did not handle a lot of money on this game and it would have been good PR for them. But I guess they don't think like that. The wager was handled as per the site's guidelines. It's simply a tough beat for the player.
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                                    • cloverfield
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 12-24-10
                                      • 862

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by luckyjay
                                      Im reporting every ** deposit to the FBI.. AND TO W U


                                      this guy must be 19 years old. every next post I read from this guy I laugh harder and harder
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                                      • MoneyIsWater
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-04-13
                                        • 1341

                                        #89
                                        Spring training games are ruled differently. I had Braves and it was credited.

                                        Wager Type: Parlay (2 team)
                                        Wager Status: Win
                                        Risk / To Win Amount: 300.00 / 709.56 (USD) Accepted 2/26/2014 12:38 PM - EST
                                        Won: 709.56
                                        Amount Paid: 709.56
                                        Item #1
                                        Wager Type: Money Line
                                        Outcome: Win
                                        Sport / Period: MLB Baseball / Game
                                        Selection: Pittsburgh Pirates 2/26/2014 1:05:00 PM - (EST)
                                        -125
                                        Pitchers:
                                        Item #2
                                        Wager Type: Money Line
                                        Outcome: Win
                                        Sport / Period: MLB Baseball / Game
                                        Selection: Atlanta Braves 2/26/2014 1:05:00 PM - (EST)
                                        -115
                                        Pitchers:
                                        * Event Notes:
                                        short game, stopped at top of 9th, reverts to last complete inning, final score for betting purposes is
                                        Atlanta 5-4 in 8 innings
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                                        • rcene
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-28-12
                                          • 3036

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by luckyjay
                                          Shady books like heritage is what gives sports wagering a bad name....
                                          What's funny about Heritage is they invent certain rules that suit them. So they cancel plays when they want. I can think of two perfect examples. When Seattle beat Greenbay 14 to 12 on Monday night football. Search this site, but I think Heritage paid out the losers on that screw job ending. They did something to compensate bettors with losing slips.

                                          So even though that was the final score of 14 to 12, Heritage ignored it. The other example goes back over ten years when Wisconsin played at Unlv. The game did not go the required 55 minutes. It ended with like eight minutes left in the fourth quarter. It was the controversial power outage game.

                                          I believe they took similiar action and graded winning slips on Wisconsin as winners. When they would have been cancelled. My point is not to knock them for being generous. It is to show that they have no consistency when it comes to unique gradings. Clear cut Vegas ruled applied in the Wisconsin game. Heritage overlooked that. Probably because it made them look so good.
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                                          • rcene
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-28-12
                                            • 3036

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                            Heritage is not to blame here, you would have the exact same issue with any USA facing book. So I assume Heritage is upset about the thread title. as they should be.
                                            You are incorrect. Heritage has ignored Vegas rules in the past, when it suited their interests.
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                                            • rcene
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-28-12
                                              • 3036

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by relaaxx
                                              don't you understand you are wrong-your bet was a loser-they are just following the rules-standard vegas rules. i want every book to always follow the rules. don't you. p.s. you don't get to decide what the rules are. you get to read the rules so you know what they are.
                                              Again, when it comes to Heritage they have a unique history of ignoring Vegas rules. When they can buy something in doing so. Had this been a higher profile game, and the poster been a whale of a loser. I am sure they would have cancelled his slip.
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                                              • rcene
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-28-12
                                                • 3036

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by 23Edler_Salo6
                                                Props to Heritage for stepping up to offer a resolution when they were already 100% in the right. A+ book, wish I played there.
                                                How about grading football games that did not go 55 minutes? Is that 100% right too? Geez some of you guys need to get your heads out of the sand.
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                                                • cloverfield
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 12-24-10
                                                  • 862

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by rcene
                                                  When Seattle beat Greenbay 14 to 12 on Monday night football. Search this site, but I think Heritage paid out the losers on that screw job ending. They did something to compensate bettors with losing slips.


                                                  I believe they took similiar action and graded winning slips on Wisconsin as winners. When they would have been cancelled. My point is not to knock them for being generous. It is to show that they have no consistency when it comes to unique gradings. Clear cut Vegas ruled applied in the Wisconsin game. Heritage overlooked that. Probably because it made them look so good.

                                                  Holy Shit! You are comparing two major news stories to a MLB PRE-SEASON GAME?!?!?!?!?! The Green Bay play was talked about for a week straight in every major outlet. I can't speak to the other one because IT WAS OVER TEN YEARS AGO. You're really stretching for examples. You're not comparing apples to apples here.

                                                  We're talking about a MLB PRE-SEASON game where they followed the exact rules they put out (probably for the last 6 years). GOD FORBID HERITAGE SHOWS SOME HUMOR IN NATIONALLY TALKED ABOUT GAMES AND CREDITS BOTH SIDES. (it was only for straight wagers on Green Bay and over a certain dollar amount).

                                                  Seriously. 60% of the time I come to this site a new post blows my mind even more.
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                                                  • rcene
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-28-12
                                                    • 3036

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by cloverfield

                                                    Seriously. 60% of the time I come to this site a new post blows my mind even more.
                                                    Maybe you simply do not have much of a mind at all? Because you penetrating cannot read.

                                                    Heritage ignores Vegas rules when it suits them. That is true. If they can get some new square loser whales from ignoring Vegas rules that apply then they do it.

                                                    Read post #93.
                                                    I already said that if this poster had bet a higher profile game, along with being in the red to them at a high number. Then they would have likely cancelled his slip.
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                                                    • rcene
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-28-12
                                                      • 3036

                                                      #96
                                                      You cannot ignore the fact that they have ignored rules in the past. Its 100% true. There are so many more examples that can be used. Some from pre-season Nfl games.

                                                      Again, if the game is not high volume, then it comes down to what amount of red a loser customer is at Heritage.
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                                                      • steady hustlin
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-24-07
                                                        • 687

                                                        #97
                                                        This guy is the biggest \*\*\*\*\*\* ever. Yeah the FBI has no idea that Americans deposit at offshore books. What a little bitch.
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                                                        • relaaxx
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-15-06
                                                          • 3281

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by rcene
                                                          Again, when it comes to Heritage they have a unique history of ignoring Vegas rules. When they can buy something in doing so. Had this been a higher profile game, and the poster been a whale of a loser. I am sure they would have cancelled his slip.
                                                          this is about 1 losing bet that heritage tried to appease a whining customer with voiding bet and some free play. which he did not accept. then closing his account just because they can but still payed that losing bet as a winner. not about if this had been and if that was so. what if anything is not the point. what is known to be facts is all that counts. heritage was very generous in this case.
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                                                          • TheMoneyShot
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-14-07
                                                            • 28672

                                                            #99
                                                            Holy Sh#$. Wow.
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                                                            • djefferis
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-16-08
                                                              • 1187

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by rcene
                                                              What's funny about Heritage is they invent certain rules that suit them. So they cancel plays when they want. I can think of two perfect examples. When Seattle beat Greenbay 14 to 12 on Monday night football. Search this site, but I think Heritage paid out the losers on that screw job ending. They did something to compensate bettors with losing slips.
                                                              I can assure you sir Heritage did not screw anyone in that game. Seahawks backers (which were in the vast minority in this game) got paid, GB Backers got a $50 or $100 free play depending on their stake amount. GB was -4 for the game and Heritage initially did nothing, but then did concede a little after Sportsbook.com refunded wagers up to $500 (realizing giving funds to the squares who laid GB early in Seattle was like giving free smack to addicts). What they didn't do was cancel anyones wager - this I can guarantee.

                                                              Another good example was the USC/Utah? game - with the late call, LV books lost a ton on that one a while back as initially USC was deemed to have covered, and suddenly they didn't with a reversed call. Offshore paid the rightful winners and no free plays were offered..LV books lost on this one because the ruling changing the score was made 3 hours after the game.

                                                              What Heritage didn't do was screw the rightful winners - nor is it beyond the norm to offer a token free play to bettors who lose in heartbreaking fashion on lowly wagered events early in the season. If this would have been a regular season game, they wouldn't have offered anything…not with 8 cent juice on MLB and not with a heavy volume of betting. Spring training games are very lightly wagered.
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                                                              • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-13-08
                                                                • 5487

                                                                #101
                                                                It's good to see these Heritage guys payout according to their rules. Not sure what this whole thread was about though.
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                                                                • easyliving
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-25-12
                                                                  • 8876

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                                  Here is the ruling. If the game is cancelled in the bottom of the 9th, then the score reverts back to what it was at the end of 8 innings. Detroit had scored two runs in the Top of the 9th inning, so at the end of 8, they wre down 5-4. You lose. What Heritage did was totally correct.
                                                                  spot on, because the 9th inning was never completed the last full inning counts. This is standard business and is stated in their rules can't blame the book here. Not sure what OP is crying about he had no case to start with and I applaud heritage for actually putting up with him and givig him his money back plus the freeplay.
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                                                                  • unluckysob
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-21-08
                                                                    • 1527

                                                                    #103
                                                                    I lost this same bet at 5ds===lost a college regional playoff game last year, same rule.---even though that game was continued next day.
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                                                                    • ADR51
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 05-15-11
                                                                      • 428

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Op is a whining little bitch!
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                                                                      • capone1899
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 06-16-11
                                                                        • 1054

                                                                        #105
                                                                        I can't believe how many people bet spring training baseball....degenerates
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