Ok guys, can someone tell me....

[gilbert91016]

Here it is again for our special dancing midget, just for you jj:

https://bet-ibc.com/pinnacle-sports-...e-usa/?lang=de

So it's this legit ? Anyone uses them ?

[zizoudane10]

So it's this legit ? Anyone uses them ?

Of course it is.
I am using them to have access to SBO for over a year now (Pinnacle still allows customers from Germany luckily).
It is a 100% legit company.
And just btw: I am in no way working for them or affiliated with them, just to make this very clear here.

[zizoudane10]

Stefan, there was absolutely no need to toss me points man, just trying to help here.

Anyway, thanks, I appreciate the nice gesture. Give me a game to throw these points on and I'll do it!

[gilbert91016]

Thank might have to give them a try

[Keith Richard]

I don't speak German so how could they possibly be of use to me?

[zizoudane10]

I don't speak German so how could they possibly be of use to me?

The company isn't German

[Jim_Gunn]

Of course it is.
I am using them to have access to SBO for over a year now (Pinnacle still allows customers from Germany luckily).
It is a 100% legit company.
And just btw: I am in no way working for them or affiliated with them, just to make this very clear here.

So how does this work for a U.S bettor who wants to wager at Pinnacle for example? Bet IBC sets up a Pinnacle account using some other person's name & ID in another country where Pinnnacle accepts players from and then they email you the user ID and password so you can log in directly at Pinnacle's site through your VPN and make wagers? Then at some point when you want a payout you request it through Bet-IBC and they have their agent request the money from Pinnacle which they then transfer to you somehow?

[zizoudane10]

So how does this work for a U.S bettor who wants to wager at Pinnacle for example? Bet IBC sets up a Pinnacle account using some other person's name & ID in another country where Pinnnacle accepts players from and then they email you the user ID and password so you can log in directly at Pinnacle's site through your VPN and make wagers? Then at some point when you want a payout you request it through Bet-IBC and they have their agent request the money from Pinnacle which they then transfer to you somehow?

Yes.
With one exception:
BET-IBC are agents for IBCbet, the biggest Asian book. The 3 books know, that agents are involved. Because they want customers (sneak around the fence a state set if you want to call it so). Furthermore: IBCbet is even d'accord with you opening a 2nd account through this agent if you already have one. So; no, BET-IBC isn't using other person's name & ID, they have deals with the books, the books know very well who BET-IBC is. BET-IBC is getting a percentage from the books for bringing in new customers (from f.e. US) that they couldn't accept otherwise.
BET-IBC makes the account. You get username and password (and yes, of course you can change it after receiving it). Bets are made directly on the site of the books (therefore you'll need proxy/vpn for Pinnacle from the US), deposits and withdrawals are made through BET-IBC.

[theblueprint]

Fantastic information. Thanks a bundle

[bobbywaves]

BET-IBC Deposit information:



The minimum deposit amount we accept with ** is 300 USD. The deposits are processed within 36 hours and the fees have to be covered by the customer. We are not responsible for currency exchange rates - we will credit the player account with the amount we receive.

So you'll save $ with better lines, but lose $ on: deposit fees, withdrawal fees, & currency exchange rates. After sending P2P, you may have to wait up to 36 hours to place a bet. I signed up just to check it out & have account login info. Doubt I will look into VPN now, since it appears the negatives outweigh the positive.

Zizzy, why should US citizens make the extra effort of playing here instead of playing reduced juice at 5Dimes?

[Darkside Magick]

Great thread ...this how a forum should be!!!!

[Pareto]

Zizzy, why should US citizens make the extra effort of playing here instead of playing reduced juice at 5Dimes?

If you really cant answer the above question yourself, then you probably shouldnt.

I dont know anything about IBC-Bet so I am not vouching for them, but if I was american I would gladly pay some deposit/withdrawal fees to be able to play at pinnacle. You can just keep your transfers to a minimum.

[bobbywaves]

If you really cant answer the above question yourself, then you probably shouldn't.

I won't, thanks for your keen insight which contributed absolutely nothing.

I'll stick with 5Dimes free deposits & withdrawals via convenient DC, reduced juice comparable if not better than Pinny line, being able to play immediately after deposit, etc....

[Jim_Gunn]

Zizoudane, thanks a lot for the info. Bobbywaves, I can answer you about why an American bettor might want to wager at Pinnacle through IBC Bet even if one already has accounts at popular U.S friendly books like 5Dimes and Bookmaker.

For one, the more varying lines one has available through different sportsbooks on each given bet, the better one can shop for the best lines in the days leading up to an event. On a typical MMA card I might make two dozen bets and picking the best lines from amongst a few might save me five or ten percent or maybe more which could represent savings of anywhere from $50 to $100+ on a risk of $1000 on a given event or vice versa give much better returns on certain wagers.

Secondly, and more importantly, the options for live betting, especially for MMA for U.S. customers are very limited. You have 5Dimes between rounds only and Bookmaker/BetDSI in-round betting as the only two I am familiar with. It's my understanding that Pinnacle has in-round betting on MMA- please someone confirm or correct me if wrong. Due to the ever-changing spontaneous nature of the way the live line has to move, there can be big fluctuations on the availability and + or - numbers of the lines at any given moment in two or three different sportsbooks as the fights progress which creates a lot of opportunity for sharp bettors who might have each book open in their browser as they watch the fight.

It actually sounds interesting enough to me to invest the $300 minimum deposit at IBC Bet to see how well it works.

[tradeout]

interesting info

i have a couple of questions:

1. how do you place a bet with bet-ibc/ agent? is it an interface similar to sbobet?
2. do they offer in-live betting?

thanks

[zizoudane10]

.....

I am sure you would rather talk about 18thhole Robert....
But if you are not interested, why even make a comment here. Seems like you have an agenda.

Again: I am in absolutely no way linked with BET-IBC. I am just giving out potentially useful information. They are a company that has proven to be 100% safe and reliable. It's not like they are doing this since a few months now. They are working together with the biggest books from Asia and they are doing an awesome job since years. So I can easily suggest interested guys on here to try them out. If you don't wanna play at those 3 books anyway: don't try them. But if you want to: This is your by far best option. Simple as that.

tradeout: Read through my explanations again. It is stated in this thread already.

[bobbywaves]

Nobody said you were linked with BET-IBC. And I am absolutely no way linked with 18th hole, you shouldn't believe everything you read on a forum.

No agenda, as my above post said I created a BET-IBC account.

Creating an account would clearly suggest I was interested. Until I read the negatives after sign up, which I clearly pointed out & you conveniently left out.

I may or may not pursue playing there, after I look into VPN & calculate risk/reward. My prerogative.

[zizoudane10]

Nobody said you were linked with BET-IBC. And I am absolutely no way linked with 18th hole, you shouldn't believe everything you read on a forum.

No agenda, as my above post said I created a BET-IBC account.

Creating an account would clearly suggest I was interested. Until I read the negatives after sign up, which I clearly pointed out & you conveniently left out.

I may or may not pursue playing there, after I look into VPN & calculate risk/reward. My prerogative.

I didn't leave anything out. I, as a guy from Germany, am allowed to use Skrill as well as Neteller. I didn't look into W U and M G, because I never ever used or will use them. I have no idea what kind of fees (which % or amount) guys from the US have to pay using them. I just read it now. And fwiw, 36 hours "waiting" wouldn't be a problem for me, as I think my funds are extremely safe at all 3 books.
I just pointed out the Pro's, that I know of, whether there are Contra's for you guys (i.e. fees), I have no idea.
Was just looking to help some guys out, it's a legit option, nothing more.
Your last sentence is very true of course

[gilbert91016]

So did anyone try them ?

[byronbb]

I used a broker who set up the account and handled all deposits and withdrawals. I used a VPN when I went to Pinnacle to place the bets.

What did they charge for the service?

[OnkelChris]

Nobody said you were linked with BET-IBC. And I am absolutely no way linked with 18th hole, you shouldn't believe everything you read on a forum.

No agenda, as my above post said I created a BET-IBC account.

Creating an account would clearly suggest I was interested. Until I read the negatives after sign up, which I clearly pointed out & you conveniently left out.

I may or may not pursue playing there, after I look into VPN & calculate risk/reward. My prerogative.

Why is this scumbag still posting here? Go on and advertise your 18th shithole bobbylein!

[Breakingbadam]

Is depositing with a bank transfer completely out of the question? Something I should be worried about?

[FlipsideRM]

So how do you get a VPN? Im a newb

[Optional]

So how do you get a VPN? Im a newb

There is a very good table comparing most of the major reputable services here: https://www.choice.com.au/electronic...s/vpn-services

Choice is a respected Australian consumer product/service testing organization.

[FlipsideRM]

There is a very good table comparing most of the major reputable services here: https://www.choice.com.au/electronic...s/vpn-services

Choice is a respected Australian consumer product/service testing organization.

Oh it costs $ to get a VPN?