One Vice stepping up to the big leagues

**lecubs28** · 12-31-13, 02:51 PM

it is run by morons

**jjgold** · 12-31-13, 05:12 PM

no thanks

just the name a huge turnoff

**whocares** · 12-31-13, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by lecubs28

it is run by morons

I could not agree more.Like Maiden said.RUN FOR THE HILLS!!! Or to bankruptcy court once every 7 years or so.History have a funny way of repeating itself.

**robmpink** · 12-31-13, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

no thanks

just the name a huge turnoff

I actually think the name is witty and clever. Some probably don't get it.

**denn333** · 01-01-14, 12:19 AM

I understand it. Some are a tad slow.

**Nick Papageorgio** · 01-01-14, 10:44 AM

Glad they have stepped up, this didn't really didn't make me think of a big league book.

**Bet10Heinekens** · 01-01-14, 01:05 PM

great book for recreational players and to have as a secondary book to line shop

it's awesome now that they have more betting options

**aortega521** · 01-01-14, 01:20 PM

Great book overall! They ask customers what they want and they deliver. I remember not too long ago I was asked what I as a member wanted to see more and I laid it out there for them. Now I've got more options that include international basketball (men's, women's) cricket, darts, and other exotic sports. Griffin leads that book well and is more than generous with how he treats his clients. I much rather be with 1 V I C E than any other book. As I've stated in the past, do your research, be smart, but don't have tunnel vision and miss out on having this great book be your go to book. Hope everyone has a prosperous new year, and thanks to V I C E staff Griffin, Ed, and everyone else for continuing to work hard to make V I C E the place to be!!!

**looneytunes** · 01-01-14, 02:42 PM

How much they let you pull out a week? or is it a deposit only book, with lots of free cash?

**aortega521** · 01-01-14, 02:51 PM

700 a week I believe on Fridays for free!!!

**aortega521** · 01-01-14, 02:51 PM

Every friday!

**looneytunes** · 01-01-14, 02:56 PM

700 a week?

**whocares** · 01-01-14, 02:57 PM

I dont understand how anyone can come here and defend a group books that closed shop and stole their players money.Let me ask you this.If Betisland was to open shop back up and pay back a limited some of their former players. Would you still play their? With so many other books out their that NEVER stiffed their players or closed up shop to choose from.

Their are many reason why they are a D+.

**aortega521** · 01-01-14, 03:10 PM

**CORRECTION** $3,000 per week on withdraw with payouts on Fridays!!!!

Haters have no basis for their criticism, I'm happy with V I C E. That's all than matters.

**looneytunes** · 01-01-14, 03:18 PM

Why does a book need to create so many brands unless they know each one has short shelf life? AM Bookie, apex, 1 v ice, Bet 33 , 247sportsbookie, legendsportsbook, wager33, alohasports, etc. If there still around in a couple years and have an actual history, then maybe.

**aortega521** · 01-01-14, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by whocares

I dont understand how anyone can come here and defend a group books that closed shop and stole their players money.Let me ask you this.If Betisland was to open shop back up and pay back a limited some of their former players. Would you still play their? With so many other books out their that NEVER stiffed their players or closed up shop to choose from.

Their are many reason why they are a D+.

Buddy if you put so much stock in ratings, betislands was an A rating and they still folded and SBR washed their hands CLEAN of any wrongdoing!!!!!Do your own research make ur decisions base on FACTS!!! Give them a try

**aortega521** · 01-01-14, 03:30 PM

Also keep in mind that new software isn't cheap!!!! They keep upgrading, an in turn investing in the experience their clients have!!!! V I C E is on solid footing!!!

**whocares** · 01-01-14, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by aortega521

Also keep in mind that new software isn't cheap!!!! They keep upgrading, an in turn investing in the experience their clients have!!!! V I C E is on solid footing!!!

Just like *****??? A member of The RDG has had a recent slow pay filed against them.I do my homework.Maybe you better do some more study hall sessions.Don't come crying when history repeats itself.

**aortega521** · 01-01-14, 04:01 PM

Buddy, 1 V I C E is no longer associated with Robbie or RDG Group ON ANY LEVEL!!! They have and always been more than transparent with myself and every other client they have. My MONEY is safe at 1 V I C E.

**Bet10Heinekens** · 01-01-14, 04:12 PM

never heard of Vice slow paying or stiffing anyone

**aortega521** · 01-01-14, 04:17 PM

PPL just get their info from so many sources that it gets all screwed up, then uneducated ppl or those new to the industry are lead to believe wrong things. TRUST ME start the new year off right and discover what a great book this is!

**Nick Papageorgio** · 01-01-14, 04:59 PM

Ortega works for 1 lice, if it wasn't clear before. It now is.

**T4TRUTH** · 01-01-14, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio

Ortega works for 1 lice, if it wasn't clear before. It now is.

It appears he is right. research is reasearch, due diligence even, not just something you heard. whoever he works for is one thing but he has his facts straight. so where is the negative arguments from?? from someone wthat works for someone else.. ask yourself

**Ian** · 01-01-14, 05:32 PM

How exactly are they crushing 5dimes and Pinnacle?

Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio

Glad they have stepped up, this didn't really didn't make me think of a big league book.

**aortega521** · 01-01-14, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by T4TRUTH

It appears he is right. research is reasearch, due diligence even, not just something you heard. whoever he works for is one thing but he has his facts straight. so where is the negative arguments from?? from someone wthat works for someone else.. ask yourself

Fellas I do not wrk for V I C E. I am however opinionated and it is bothersome when I hear misinformation about a book full of hard working ppl. Ppl are entitled to think what they want. I do want to however let those who've considered this book know that it is my choice book. You however can make those decisions on your own as to where your money goes. Just don't believe everything you read as gospel truth. Figure out on your what's best for you!

**5mike5** · 01-01-14, 11:54 PM

Far from the big leagues. Good grief.

**blackbox** · 01-02-14, 12:03 AM

IVICE and Griff have a good reputation with me. Paid in less than 6 hrs-even though I was told up to 48hrs-- not a single problem. gl all.

**Bet10Heinekens** · 01-02-14, 12:11 AM

I guess there will be players on both side of the fence for this book.

**dark star** · 01-02-14, 12:34 AM

Yes and right now I am on the side of the fence with Grif and 1 Vice,I hope this continues

**Kaabee** · 01-02-14, 12:52 AM

ortega, thou doth protest too much

**jjgold** · 01-02-14, 08:01 AM

Let's see what type of year they have moving forward

**whocares** · 01-02-14, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by aortega521

Buddy, 1 V I C E is no longer associated with Robbie or RDG Group ON ANY LEVEL!!! They have and always been more than transparent with myself and every other client they have. My MONEY is safe at 1 V I C E.

We may disagree.They still part of the RDG group.Its posted right on their website.GL

*****.com is a renowned sports betting site that provides a safe, legal and secure place to bet on sports as well as a casino and a racebook.

We offer outstanding customer support 24 hours a day, seven days a week, fast deposits and payouts and generous promotions. *****.com gives you the best sports betting experience, the signup process is very fast and easy and we cater to every player.

*****.com is proud to be part of RDG Corp’s first class service and support.

**looneytunes** · 01-02-14, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by aortega521

Just don't believe everything you read as gospel truth. Figure out on your what's best for you!

Could be your getting a hard time because people are doing exactly what you just said. Some of these guys promoting this book use it for a specific reason and the value to them doesn't always cross over to the average rec player. They will ride it as long as they can, just like with BI, 18th hole, etc. Based on RDG's past performance there is a completely valid reason to warn others to be cautious and to do a little research.

**T4TRUTH** · 01-02-14, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by whocares

We may disagree.They still part of the RDG group.Its posted right on their website.GL

*****.com is a renowned sports betting site that provides a safe, legal and secure place to bet on sports as well as a casino and a racebook.

We offer outstanding customer support 24 hours a day, seven days a week, fast deposits and payouts and generous promotions. *****.com gives you the best sports betting experience, the signup process is very fast and easy and we cater to every player.

*****.com is proud to be part of RDG Corp’s first class service and support.

It says quote, so I would like to see the link, I have been reading pages and pages and cannot seem to find those quotes. I am not saying they do not exist however I would appreciate a direct link. Make things alittle easier on an old guy. My understanding prior was they received sports software from that company but had moved away from them . I could be wrong but I like the precise truth so thank you in advance