tvg.com

[johnpendred]

a few weeks back i asked about a horse book that offers track odds. robmpink and a few others chimed with some great help but i decided to go with tvg. any issues with them? i doubt it but just wanted 2 check as i had a nice hit tonight

[mtneer1212]

They are a legal US pari-mutuel book. TVG is very secure, although I prefer twinspires.com.

[johnpendred]

any advantage to use twinspires? bonuses?

[jjgold]

forget the penny bonuses

choose a place that is good

they are both good, slight nod to twin spires

many state restrictions though, it depends where you live

[big joe 1212]

both have nice sign up bonuses

checks received in just a few days after requesting payouts

[robmpink]

John, there are a lot of regulated adw sites that have a really good first deposit load bonus. Off the top of my head idabet is one.

[Kindred]

offshore books give much better deals with cashback since they aren't taxed. Bookmaker, bovada both have cashback, 5 dimes probably does not sure, most offshore books used to all offer 5-8% cash back on wager volume, win/lose doesn't matter you get a rebate. Exotics have a cap on payoffs at offshore books so if you like them stick to the U.S. based sites all other bets, even exactas you'll get a better deal offshore. That is after you bonus whore all the legal sites, but for straight betting I stick to offshore.

[johnpendred]

offshore books give much better deals with cashback since they aren't taxed. Bookmaker, bovada both have cashback, 5 dimes probably does not sure, most offshore books used to all offer 5-8% cash back on wager volume, win/lose doesn't matter you get a rebate. Exotics have a cap on payoffs at offshore books so if you like them stick to the U.S. based sites all other bets, even exactas you'll get a better deal offshore. That is after you bonus whore all the legal sites, but for straight betting I stick to offshore.

offshore books don't pay track odds, at least none that I know of

[Kindred]

offshore books don't pay track odds, at least none that I know of

Serously? I don't know any that don't pay track odds. They have limits on exotics but still pay track odds. They can pay them and offer rebate because they aren't taxed to death like the tracks are in the states.
What do the books pay that you play at, less than track odds

[jjgold]

never ever bet horses offshore

zero reason too

[robmpink]

never ever bet horses offshore

zero reason too

This couldn't be further from the truth. As a blanket statement covering all offshore books, you are correct. There are certain books where it isn't a bad idea. You have to understand what the pros and cons are. If your aim is to take down a big pick 6 with a pool of 1 mil, no don't play offshore.

[offshore tyrant]

never ever bet horses offshore

zero reason too

Don't think anybody had better odds than the seeded odds last year at this time at betmaker so this statement is completely wrong. Anyone who was there knows what i mean.

[Slimpickens]

John, there are a lot of regulated adw sites that have a really good first deposit load bonus. Off the top of my head idabet is one.

Yea there are lots of lesser known ADW sites online. Used to have a complete list of them but cant seem to find it. A few...

raceuwin.com
mutuels.com
horseplayersbet.com
compubet.com
darkhorsebet.com
offtrackbetting.com (My favorite)

Absolutely no reason to go with tvg or twinspires as your main out. The ones I mentioned above give some sort of a rebate as well.

Pretty sure all give decent sign up bonuses. If you play alot of exotics like pick 3, pick 4 and trifectas offtrackbetting.com offers over 8% rebate at Aqueduct. Even bigger rebates for lesser played tracks. Only legal site Ive found that is somewhat competitive with offshore rebates. if you play NYRA tracks regurally and are playing at another ADW you are almost certainly making a mistake.

Link to see the rebates for specific tracks...

http://www.offtrackbetting.com/rebates.html