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  • rm18
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-20-05
    • 22291

    #36
    no new accounts existing still open
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    • The Bishop
      SBR Sharp
      • 08-21-09
      • 311

      #37
      Originally posted by rm18
      no new accounts existing still open


      Yeah, that's what I thought. Damn.
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      • saintjames
        Restricted User
        • 09-19-09
        • 747

        #38
        joe the manager banned me at vip...is he still there???
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        • michael777
          SBR MVP
          • 09-20-05
          • 1936

          #39
          Originally posted by saintjames
          joe the manager banned me at vip...is he still there???
          he is hiding under his desk with the rest of those slimeballs at vip,they are all afraid to take a bet
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          • saintjames
            Restricted User
            • 09-19-09
            • 747

            #40
            thats true mike...they are all sore losers at vip
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            • msdw1
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-12-08
              • 147

              #41
              I agree that they have a quick hook. Years ago, they booted me shortly after I placed a max bet on a circled NBA game. They were the only highly-rated book offering a pre-injury line after news broke that the Spur's center was not going to play. I didn't have any other plays so they accused me of cherry-picking a bad line. Ironically, I lost the bet.
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              • Peregrine Stoop
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-23-09
                • 869

                #42
                Originally posted by rm18
                no new accounts existing still open
                are there US friendly skins for vipsports?
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                • gomiamigo
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 08-07-08
                  • 360

                  #43
                  I was banned by them after being up only a few k after years. It happens.
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                  • raddle_snake
                    Restricted User
                    • 10-31-08
                    • 283

                    #44
                    WoooOah.. What da! that bookie banned their member just placing bet in over 5 times with the crappy limit??
                    Still lucky, haven't got one!
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                    • Snowball
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 11-15-09
                      • 30056

                      #45
                      Maybe someone is confusing actual limits with "night limits" which are $200. Night limits are turned off somewhere around 10am est.
                      Anyway, I've been using VIP since 1996, no problems ever.
                      They still send me free high quality stuff I don't even ask for.
                      Payouts fast. Money Grams from Nicaraguans at the supermarket i check out.
                      or checks from Deutche Bank.
                      Too bad their not accepting US anymore. I'm glad I'm "grandfathered" in.
                      Something must have happenned with the laws. Maybe a charge or lawsuit.
                      It got too hairy for them somehow but I'm sure it's not because you were winning too much.
                      imo.
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                      • johncrud
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-06-09
                        • 1322

                        #46
                        if books ban me, i'll have my friend bet for me.. hes into these things too..
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                        • johncrud
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-06-09
                          • 1322

                          #47
                          i'll take that back.. I have an army of friends with different IP and addresses to place bets for me.. Banning is like an honor.. IT demonstrates how good you are in gambling.
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                          • tropolis
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 12-23-08
                            • 451

                            #48
                            wow
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                            • noyb
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-13-05
                              • 971

                              #49
                              Originally posted by johncrud
                              Banning is like an honor.. IT demonstrates how good you are in gambling.
                              i would like to put it the other way around. if you play for months/years without any trouble at some of these books it shows you are clearly doing something wrong. no offence, but any retard can get himself banned at a place like vip or sia, it doesn't demonstrate anything.
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                              • investor
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-08-09
                                • 1929

                                #50
                                Originally posted by saintjames
                                is joe still there ?

                                Joe Momma?
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                                • BigdaddyQH
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-09
                                  • 19530

                                  #51
                                  All of these sob stories are very heart wrenching, and very believeable. This is why I play in Vegas. No bull shit. You give them the cash and they take your wager. When you win, you get your winnings immediately. They could care less how much you wagered. They would not have taken the wager if there was a problem. You are not cut off because you win too much. Groups in Vegas wager 50 large A GAME, and no one bats an eye. Offshore books have you at their mercy. They can give you the royal screwing and there is nothing you guys can do about it because no one in here has that kind of power. Do you guys have any idea what kind of info these books can get on you when you open an offshore account? A lot more than you want them to know. And you really do ot want to know what they do with that information, especially if you are a big winner.
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                                  • noyb
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-13-05
                                    • 971

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                    They could care less how much you wagered. They would not have taken the wager if there was a problem. You are not cut off because you win too much. Groups in Vegas wager 50 large A GAME, and no one bats an eye. .
                                    uuhm, are you sure you didn't get stuck in the nineties?
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                                    • Snowball
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 11-15-09
                                      • 30056

                                      #53
                                      Here is when the problems started with some such as VIP.

                                      "Leisure & Gaming Plc, whose brands include VIPsports, lost 75 percent to 9.75 pence in London".

                                      PartyGaming, SportingBet Plunge on U.S. Gambling Law (Update8)

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                                      • Snowball
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 11-15-09
                                        • 30056

                                        #54
                                        wow. VIP was sold to Leisure & Gaming plc in 2005, then unloaded for $1.00 along with others affected by the law change in the U.S. The Wiki on the company says VIP no longer accepts US wagers, ( ya, that's right, best to say that, lol )



                                        Britain's Sportingbet and Leisure & Gaming both pulled out of the United States ahead of a ban on Internet gambling on Friday, each selling their U.S. operations to private investors for $1.

                                        Smaller rival World Gaming meanwhile said it was impossible to continue in business and called in administrators.

                                        All three companies were rushing to complete the deals before President George W. Bush signed a bill to prohibit Internet gambling into law on Friday.
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                                        • jackkkk2009
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-13-09
                                          • 1183

                                          #55
                                          They take old U.S players. just not taking New Sign up from U.S and Canadian Players
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                                          • Ian
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-09-09
                                            • 6073

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                            All of these sob stories are very heart wrenching, and very believeable. This is why I play in Vegas. No bull shit. You give them the cash and they take your wager. When you win, you get your winnings immediately. They could care less how much you wagered. They would not have taken the wager if there was a problem. You are not cut off because you win too much. Groups in Vegas wager 50 large A GAME, and no one bats an eye. Offshore books have you at their mercy. They can give you the royal screwing and there is nothing you guys can do about it because no one in here has that kind of power. Do you guys have any idea what kind of info these books can get on you when you open an offshore account? A lot more than you want them to know. And you really do ot want to know what they do with that information, especially if you are a big winner.

                                            Not true about Vegas not cutting people off. One of the Harrah's owned books, I think it was Bally's, bounced a host of local bettors 2 or 3 years back for beating them longterm at NFL. Now Bally's shutters their book during the spring and summer and doesn't take action from anybody during that time.

                                            I play a lot of poker with a guy who was bounced at at all Station Casino books for making huge bets on everything and going on a hot streak. Funny thing is the guy isn't sharp at all. He's just a huge degen who owns one of the biggest car dealerships in Vegas. He just got lucky for two months and then lost it all back to books on the strip.

                                            Vegas books have lower limits, and much worse juice. The only thing they're good for is playing steam and scalping after online line moves.
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                                            • sjay2k2k
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 12-07-08
                                              • 11

                                              #57
                                              Heh... Haven't been on this site in months, amused to see my thread is still active.

                                              To the cynical souls above, I promise there is nothing "more to the story".

                                              I've never had an account with them, I'd never heard of VIP before and there is no possible multi-accounting problem.

                                              I bet a total of 5 games at the "night limit" of $200. 3 of the lines were at market lines, 2 of the lines were 1 or 1.5 points better than market.

                                              Fwiw, I've had some interesting interactions with Sportingbet since this. I crushed their cricket, college football and basketball lines. My limits got cut approximately 5 times... From 5k --> 1k ---> 300 ---> 100 --> 50 ---> 30.

                                              Their lines were so juicy that I convinced my friend to open an account and he was similarly cut down to micro limits within a couple of weeks.
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                                              • sjay2k2k
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 12-07-08
                                                • 11

                                                #58
                                                Regarding Sportingbet... they had one cricket line that they regularly offered at between 2.2 to 2.35 that I was able to lay on Betfair between 1.7 to 1.9. I was getting about 4k matched per game on that one. I think that was the one that led to my cuts. I think they didn't like me betting 3k on random college football games (they are an australian book who doesn't realy know anything about it)
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                                                • Peregrine Stoop
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-23-09
                                                  • 869

                                                  #59
                                                  seriously, any US friendly skins?
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                                                  • Dunder
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 10-26-09
                                                    • 3345

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by sjay2k2k
                                                    Regarding Sportingbet... they had one cricket line that they regularly offered at between 2.2 to 2.35 that I was able to lay on Betfair between 1.7 to 1.9. I was getting about 4k matched per game on that one. I think that was the one that led to my cuts. I think they didn't like me betting 3k on random college football games (they are an australian book who doesn't realy know anything about it)
                                                    Run Outs in ODIs by any chance?
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                                                    • sjay2k2k
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 12-07-08
                                                      • 11

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Dunder
                                                      Run Outs in ODIs by any chance?

                                                      Heh no, but you are quite close
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                                                      • Snowball
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 11-15-09
                                                        • 30056

                                                        #62
                                                        VIP Rocks. Member since 1997. Never any probs and lots of free stuff.
                                                        Favorite Teams like Bishop mentioned still on 2/NCAA Bask 2/NCAA Football
                                                        2/NBA and 2/NFL - extra point all games all year. Pick a new set when season begins. $5 progressive parlay to win like 90k (15 team)
                                                        Poker I'm into also lots of players from Europe there.
                                                        Fully Licensed according to Netherlands Antilles law

                                                        get my moneygrams at the supermarket or checks come next day via DHL van.
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                                                        • PRC
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-22-09
                                                          • 576

                                                          #63
                                                          thats awesome
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                                                          • BigdaddyQH
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-13-09
                                                            • 19530

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Ian
                                                            Not true about Vegas not cutting people off. One of the Harrah's owned books, I think it was Bally's, bounced a host of local bettors 2 or 3 years back for beating them longterm at NFL. Now Bally's shutters their book during the spring and summer and doesn't take action from anybody during that time.

                                                            I play a lot of poker with a guy who was bounced at at all Station Casino books for making huge bets on everything and going on a hot streak. Funny thing is the guy isn't sharp at all. He's just a huge degen who owns one of the biggest car dealerships in Vegas. He just got lucky for two months and then lost it all back to books on the strip.

                                                            Vegas books have lower limits, and much worse juice. The only thing they're good for is playing steam and scalping after online line moves.
                                                            Vegas books are great for middling, if you can wager on the lead line. If you want some real action, wager at the Hilton. They handle a lot of the action that used to go to the Stardust, when it was the #1 book in Vegas. Station books never impressed me, and now that Harrah's bought out Caesars, those hotels are getting more and more yuppy, and less and less sports action. Ballys had the best sports books set up, beasuse the restaurants next to the book were so good, and the book was away from the main casino. Why they would close that one, and have their customers go to the Paris bookis beyond me, unless they are trying to push the Crepes at the Paris. I really like the Seafood Crepes.
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                                                            • cap10
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 09-15-07
                                                              • 494

                                                              #65
                                                              my acct was closed there 2 yrs ago cause they banned canadians;; but they were a solid book;; won a 10k parlay there and they paid pronto;; but there are so many options now i dont need them;;
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                                                              • BET THE HOOK
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-16-09
                                                                • 1947

                                                                #66
                                                                This just doesnt sound right. I have played there forever and they always pay me the same day and send me nice gifts all the time. I am wearing a $250 watch from them right now.
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                                                                • Climate
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 01-22-07
                                                                  • 345

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Risk management...lol Joke of an operation.

                                                                  I just got banned from VIP about 3 weeks ago after having an account there for several years.

                                                                  Another bunch of guys who don't have what it takes to run a real sportsbook, so they just ban anything resembling a real bettor.
                                                                  Probably none of their brass could make a line on anything--hell, they can't even move lines like a real sportsbook.

                                                                  They offer good bonuses and free points, but if you resemble a sharp player with any action over $500, you will probably be banned relatively quickly IMO. I never had a problem with them until I placed a $1,100 to win $1,000 bet using their free point on favorite team option. I was in the black lifetime I believe.

                                                                  They simply don't want anything other than loser/square action. If you play sharp for anything over a nickel, you're gonna get banned.

                                                                  I got all the goodies (beach chairs, coolers, etc...)also until I got banned.

                                                                  No problem if they ban me.
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                                                                  • Vince Lombardi
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-23-08
                                                                    • 841

                                                                    #68
                                                                    This is bs. Used VIP for years and hit them hard and never been limited or cut off.
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                                                                    • Climate
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 01-22-07
                                                                      • 345

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Vince Lombardi
                                                                      This is bs. Used VIP for years and hit them hard and never been limited or cut off.
                                                                      Great post.
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                                                                      • Climate
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 01-22-07
                                                                        • 345

                                                                        #70
                                                                        VIP.com - Support

                                                                        to me General Info
                                                                        Chat start time Dec. 01, 2009 3:52:49 PM EST Chat end time Dec. 01, 2009 4:01:33 PM EST Duration (actual chatting time) 00:11:12 Operator Jewel Chat Transcript
                                                                        info: One of our Representatives will be with you in a moment
                                                                        info: You are now chatting with Jewel
                                                                        Jewel: Thank you for contacting us at VIP.com. How may I help you?

                                                                        Jewel: I'm sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you.
                                                                        xxxxxxx: no problem
                                                                        Jewel: Thank you for your patience.
                                                                        Jewel:xxxxxx, we would like to inform you that our Risk Management Team do not honor your business anymore.
                                                                        xxxxxxxxx: What is a risk management team?
                                                                        xxxxxxxxx: I've never heard that one before when I got the boot.
                                                                        Jewel: That would be the line board management.
                                                                        xxxxxxxxxxx: The sportsbook director/manager.
                                                                        Jewel: Yes.
                                                                        xxxxxt: Ok, wish him well, no hard feelings, believe me, it's not the first time.
                                                                        Jewel: xxxxxxx, you will need to contact Joe or Randy for more information.
                                                                        xxxxxxx: No problem, take care.
                                                                        info: Your chat transcript will be sent to xxxxxxxxx at the end of your chat.
                                                                        xxxxxxx: Do you have an email for either one?
                                                                        Jewel: No, I can give the phone number.
                                                                        xxxxxxxxx: That's fine.
                                                                        Jewel: Which is 1-800-300 Bets.
                                                                        xxxxxxx: Thanks, once again, no hard feelings.
                                                                        Jewel: We are happy that you feel this way.
                                                                        Jewel: Have a good one.
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