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  • Laz
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-08-09
    • 633

    #36
    I read before that betrio and betphoenix were the same people. If that's true, I would say definitely pass. I was never stiffed by betrio but I was put on a vicious slow pay for 9k about 5 years. Too many better options out there no matter the bonus.
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    • ApricotSinner32
      Restricted User
      • 11-28-10
      • 10648

      #37
      Originally posted by easyliving
      Need some more advice before I deposit 2k with them. If I am hitting 54% or so within my first month and making a ton of plays due to the rollover will I get limited? Also how quick are their payouts? I was told yesterday that I couldn't deposit by CC because their system was down.

      I don't think they limit unless you bet steam moves. If you are making your own opinionated plays you will be fine.
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      • BigDeem5
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-26-11
        • 17191

        #38
        A book that limits, doesn't take 'sharp action', and slow plays... Sounds great!
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        • mighty maron
          SBR MVP
          • 04-20-09
          • 4215

          #39
          Is the worry over probably a slow pay worth it? If you need cash with any sorta of speed this offer seems not to be for you.

          I hope all goes well with whomever avails themselves of this offer...as for me I will just stick to books in which I know I can get paid and paid fast...

          GL all
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          • CanuckG
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-23-10
            • 21978

            #40
            Originally posted by BigDeem5
            A book that limits, doesn't take 'sharp action', and slow plays... Sounds great!
            Well since you dont bet big or are sharp why would you be worried?
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            • ApricotSinner32
              Restricted User
              • 11-28-10
              • 10648

              #41
              Originally posted by CanuckG
              Well since you dont bet big or are sharp why would you be worried?
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              • ApricotSinner32
                Restricted User
                • 11-28-10
                • 10648

                #42
                Bump for punters looking for a nice bonus
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                • sjm5122
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-22-08
                  • 4213

                  #43
                  Just deposited, everything smooth so far
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                  • RogueScholar
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-05-07
                    • 5082

                    #44
                    Originally posted by raydog
                    dunno about stiffing...took over 3 months to get 50k out a few years ago...took years for some huge money to get paid, which they still may be working on....they hit a shit patch a while back where everyone was getting slow paid... people should feel okay for a couple grand though...
                    Well said, Ray. I was gonna bring up those points as well, but you beat me to it. All I have to add is that there customer service is atrocious, ask the same question to 2 clerks, 2 supervisors and a manager and you literally get five completely different answers. And while it's true they never rolled over on any debts that I'm aware of, they were able to avoid that by becoming masters at stalling for time and that's a habit they seem to rely on to this day.

                    Considering Dino's involvement with both DSI and the Phoenix family of books, I trust CRIS/Bookmaker to tell me all I need to know about their financial stability. Since CRIS has refused to do transfers with them for three years now, and with no sign of that changing anytime soon, I'll continue to stay away. The Phoenix family is almost as bad as the BetOnline family for getting timely withdrawals greater than the average P2P limits, and that's another red flag, when any four figure withdrawal involves one form of stall tactic or another.

                    Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                    I don't think they limit unless you bet steam moves. If you are making your own opinionated plays you will be fine.
                    My experience is they don't care how you're beating them, if you're consistently beating closers you will be limited or delayed and subject to line moves. They're more sensitive to early action, though, so it's easy to head fake them into a few extra months of full limits by sacrificing some value and keeping a lower profile. They learned a very painful lesson in overbooking sharps and you can tell they're not apologizing anymore for showing the door to anyone with half a clue.

                    Finally, without any credible mediators at SBR for sportsbook disputes, you'd better get busy kissing ass at EOG in case you should run into any snags at that family of books. Realistically speaking, that's the only place now that can help you should you run your balance up to five figures and want to move it out of there in less than a few months.
                    Last edited by RogueScholar; 03-16-13, 03:31 PM. Reason: Added response to my little "Sweet Cheeks" ;)
                    Originally posted by StraitShooter
                    90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                    • BigDeem5
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-26-11
                      • 17191

                      #45
                      What's new? Patty shrilling for a freeplay.. unreal.
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                      • BigDeem5
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-26-11
                        • 17191

                        #46
                        Originally posted by CanuckG
                        Well since you dont bet big or are sharp why would you be worried?
                        Same guy who fukkin quit betting to play poker full-time.. un real.
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                        • ApricotSinner32
                          Restricted User
                          • 11-28-10
                          • 10648

                          #47
                          Deemer give em a try guy you won't regret it
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                          • ZetaPsi808
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-18-08
                            • 12119

                            #48
                            well said Rogue
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                            • CappinTerp
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-26-09
                              • 9650

                              #49
                              Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                              50% cash + 50% freeplay +$64 free bet on the 1st round of the tourney.

                              Max bonus $1000 cash/$1000 freeplay
                              It looks good but IMO they need the cash for pay outs............not a good thing....gl
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                              • johnpendred
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 03-08-13
                                • 415

                                #50
                                18th hole has 100% cash plus 50% free bet on your team to win the big tourney loved them ever since 5dimes lowered my limits in august and they give wunion and mgram free sameday. not as many options as 5d but atleast they didnt lower my when i won. everyone complains about 5d but they are good for usa but hate their customer service and tony talking to me like a 3rd grader when he lowered my limits
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                                • ApricotSinner32
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-28-10
                                  • 10648

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by RogueScholar
                                  Well said, Ray. I was gonna bring up those points as well, but you beat me to it. All I have to add is that there customer service is atrocious, ask the same question to 2 clerks, 2 supervisors and a manager and you literally get five completely different answers. And while it's true they never rolled over on any debts that I'm aware of, they were able to avoid that by becoming masters at stalling for time and that's a habit they seem to rely on to this day.

                                  Considering Dino's involvement with both DSI and the Phoenix family of books, I trust CRIS/Bookmaker to tell me all I need to know about their financial stability. Since CRIS has refused to do transfers with them for three years now, and with no sign of that changing anytime soon, I'll continue to stay away. The Phoenix family is almost as bad as the BetOnline family for getting timely withdrawals greater than the average P2P limits, and that's another red flag, when any four figure withdrawal involves one form of stall tactic or another.



                                  My experience is they don't care how you're beating them, if you're consistently beating closers you will be limited or delayed and subject to line moves. They're more sensitive to early action, though, so it's easy to head fake them into a few extra months of full limits by sacrificing some value and keeping a lower profile. They learned a very painful lesson in overbooking sharps and you can tell they're not apologizing anymore for showing the door to anyone with half a clue.

                                  Finally, without any credible mediators at SBR for sportsbook disputes, you'd better get busy kissing ass at EOG in case you should run into any snags at that family of books. Realistically speaking, that's the only place now that can help you should you run your balance up to five figures and want to move it out of there in less than a few months.
                                  wow you made a post in one of my threads without berating me?
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                                  • playz
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 01-31-09
                                    • 493

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by johnpendred
                                    18th hole has 100% cash plus 50% free bet on your team to win the big tourney loved them ever since 5dimes lowered my limits in august and they give wunion and mgram free sameday. not as many options as 5d but atleast they didnt lower my when i won. everyone complains about 5d but they are good for usa but hate their customer service and tony talking to me like a 3rd grader when he lowered my limits
                                    Whats 18th hole? whats the site?
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                                    • BigDeem5
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-26-11
                                      • 17191

                                      #53
                                      Patty have much FP did they give you to shrill for them?
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                                      • ZetaPsi808
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-18-08
                                        • 12119

                                        #54
                                        Deemer why u mad brah
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                                        • looneytunes
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-16-10
                                          • 216

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by CappinTerp
                                          It looks good but IMO they need the cash for pay outs............not a good thing....gl
                                          seems abit desperate. But great offer for those that dont plan on winning
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                                          • ethandavis2
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-24-08
                                            • 307

                                            #56
                                            theres a 2 week hold ,too
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                                            • Hankwins
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-17-10
                                              • 2232

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by ethandavis2
                                              theres a 2 week hold ,too
                                              they are big on holds, they burned me years ago when a casino bonus had a max cashout and my insanely aggreesive play had me at 6k, 5k that had to be forfieted. It was clear in the' t&c's i only read about the rollover becuase i am not used to max cashout rules on deposit bonuses.
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                                              • ApricotSinner32
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-28-10
                                                • 10648

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by looneytunes
                                                seems abit desperate. But great offer for those that dont plan on winning

                                                Who has betphoenix/betphoenix family of books ever stiffed? Right... nobody jerkoff
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                                                • lecubs28
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-17-11
                                                  • 638

                                                  #59
                                                  lol no
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                                                  • touchback
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-08-12
                                                    • 1227

                                                    #60
                                                    LOts of holds but I do not really consider 2 weeks to really be a hold. Is that from the time of deposit or from the time of payout request. Two very different things...
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                                                    • ZetaPsi808
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-18-08
                                                      • 12119

                                                      #61
                                                      patty how did this phoenix deposit turn out?

                                                      did you win?

                                                      did they pay you?

                                                      did you go bust??
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                                                      • ApricotSinner32
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 11-28-10
                                                        • 10648

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                                        Deemer sbr ratings don't mean shit they are bought. Phoenix was a top book at sbr until they stopped paying advertisement fees to sbr. Tell me who phoenix has stiffed deemer... i'll wait.
                                                        Betphoenix 1
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                                                        • ApricotSinner32
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-28-10
                                                          • 10648

                                                          #63
                                                          Phoenix paid me and have more payouts on the way. SBR ratings are bought not a true testament to the safety of your cash fact.
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                                                          • ApricotSinner32
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 11-28-10
                                                            • 10648

                                                            #64
                                                            Smoker we are winning
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                                                            • ApricotSinner32
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 11-28-10
                                                              • 10648

                                                              #65



                                                              legendz who?
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                                                              • Bandito97
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 03-12-13
                                                                • 149

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by sjm5122
                                                                Just deposited, everything smooth so far
                                                                All deposits go smoothly with all books. Withdrawals is a whole other story.
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                                                                • easyliving
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-25-12
                                                                  • 8876

                                                                  #67
                                                                  did anyone deposit for this bonus? Can we get some updates on how it turned out?
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