Turning Pro, I just signed with them. I know it´s a bit late but would appreciate what´s your experience with them as I don´t see many references regarding them here on SBR.. As they are in the recommended list, I suppose they are solid.
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They are alright. Justin7 works reasonably closely with them to resolve disputes that come up. (I had a minor situation with them that was solved reasonably efficiently by Justin) They on the whole will be reasonable to deal with, lots of opportunities to bet their shaded lines, but you will get booted at some point after that occuring. My account was banned from betting sports with them, but still allowed to play poker and use the (lol) casino.Comment -
Also you might find a lot more info in posts about them when people talk about "SIA".Comment -
If you get banned from them, pat yourself on the back. Really. Because, that means you were doing it right.
As soon as you show that you have a least half a clue, they don't want your business. But that's the game.Comment -
They limit very fast winner players, but never had a problem with payouts, delays, void bets...Comment -
thanks all of you guys, appreciate the info..
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Are they accepting Americans? Looks like a place to bet dogs.Comment -
DSI, is a well established service and your funds are considered safe. There are reports of stronger risk management than in previous years but that seems to be more common now with well pedigreed services. Big bonuses and being allowed to play until the house has its back broken is a thing of the past with any reputable book. As an out they are good, if they limit you just use them with the smaller limits and or use an additional out. Any guy serious about this sort of thing should have at least 3 to 5 outs and line shop as well as perk shop. Look for a shop that has a B or better rating with SBR and offers nice bonuses with reasonable rollovers... 100% bonus with a 12x time rollover would be the most rollover I would want to deal with and I want all my deposit fees reimbursed as well. I would also look for a service that allows one free payout per month and mobile access with live lines. Also, look at how long the service and or brand has been operating, 3 to 5 years minimum is a good rule of thumb or if it is a newer service check and see what the management and backing look like if you can. J7 and Lou and team generally do this for us so check SBR ratings and see if they got any data on the out you are considering. If it is a brand new start up with a veteran staff and known backing then you are considered safe. New shops are questionable but as a rule of thumb, if you get in at the beginning and post up with a nickel or less you have a high probability of being paid fast because they are trying to establish brand traction and reputation. After 90 days is when any issues will become apparent pretty quick. Reduced juice is also extremely valuable but many players still dont understand how much more valuable reduced juice can be compared to a big bonus...
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One thing I'm noticing about SIA is that they grade bets wrongfully on a pretty regular basis. You have to contact them to get it all fixed, which might be a problem if you have a couple of futures pending that will get graded in two years' time. Since you can only see your graded bet history for the last couple of months or less, once those futures get graded you will never see them in your history (they are chronologically sorted by bet date, not event date or grading time). So if there is a problem and you make a lot of bets regularly and thus not notice every little balance change that occurs or simply forget that you have a couple of more bets that are very old, it's possible that you will never discover that they ripped you off.
This incorrect grading thing happens a lot. To me, more often than at all other books where I play combined. Of course, they never mistakenly grade in your favour.
This one is my favourite to date: last year they voided my tennis winner (Jarmila Groth) citing wrong player listed (listed player was, you guessed it: Jarmila Gajdosova
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Oh yeah, and they limit really fast, to a couple of bucks - even if you have a rollover to meet. I think SBR should have a rule: a book that limits players before a rollover requirement is met cannot be rated B- or higher. Because some people have better things to do than make 3000 $1 bets to withdraw money that is theirs, which the book is merely holding for them.
Also, maybe it's different now, but a while ago if you had an active rollover and decided to make another deposit, you could NOT withdraw even a penny of your second deposit (that had no bonus and no rollover, had virtually nothing to do with your first deposit) until satisfying your original rollover requirement.
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Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but as I am a positively thinking person - not afraid (yet, lolOne thing I'm noticing about SIA is that they grade bets wrongfully on a pretty regular basis. You have to contact them to get it all fixed, which might be a problem if you have a couple of futures pending that will get graded in two years' time. Since you can only see your graded bet history for the last couple of months or less, once those futures get graded you will never see them in your history (they are chronologically sorted by bet date, not event date or grading time). So if there is a problem and you make a lot of bets regularly and thus not notice every little balance change that occurs or simply forget that you have a couple of more bets that are very old, it's possible that you will never discover that they ripped you off.
This incorrect grading thing happens a lot. To me, more often than at all other books where I play combined. Of course, they never mistakenly grade in your favour.
This one is my favourite to date: last year they voided my tennis winner (Jarmila Groth) citing wrong player listed (listed player was, you guessed it: Jarmila Gajdosova)
Oh yeah, and they limit really fast, to a couple of bucks - even if you have a rollover to meet. I think SBR should have a rule: a book that limits players before a rollover requirement is met cannot be rated B- or higher. Because some people have better things to do than make 3000 $1 bets to withdraw money that is theirs, which the book is merely holding for them.
Also, maybe it's different now, but a while ago if you had an active rollover and decided to make another deposit, you could NOT withdraw even a penny of your second deposit (that had no bonus and no rollover, had virtually nothing to do with your first deposit) until satisfying your original rollover requirement.
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cahed out with them 5 times. fed ex, cheque in 2 daysComment
got interested when I saw their alternative spreads on football and basketball.. Think I´m fine then.. 
