mls & draws

**pacers101** · 07-31-11, 04:44 PM

lucky you missed that one(nasl) dang red card f'd it up. look into poland lg1, not the top league that's elektra-something, the 2nd tier league. 7 out of the 1st 17 games I believe have gone draw.
I don't have a clue on dallas/chivas tonight. I would say dallas but I'm not paying juice on any mls game.

**nobull** · 07-31-11, 04:46 PM

draw baby draw ..................... not today i guess ..................... disgusting day so far

**pacers101** · 08-01-11, 03:40 PM

wow a boatload of draws today. unfortunately I didn't cash on any. almost did the france game but almost= $0. “Would've, could've, should've. The bottom line is we didn't do it.”

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-01-11, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by ColdBeerHere

Pacers, that game will probably tie as I just got on the pc now, and was unable to get that bet in....

I did place 2 over night bets...both of which lost...So now that's 10 losses in a row, and 15 lost out of last 16

Just updating my losing streak...Lost that Swe-S game this afternoon....

11 losses in a row now, and 16 out of the last 17

All 3 of my books are once again on their final legs of their chases....fun fun

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-03-11, 09:55 PM

Spiraling out of control here.....lost MLS tonight.....5th leg at all my books....I now have lost 12 in a row and 17 of last 18 games......

Wouldn't someone be able to pick better by closing eyes and throwing darts at games ? How can it be this bad ?

Well I got one more chase left in me....I lose one more chase before I make some of it back and I am done.....Don't understand how I can be on fire and win over 70 units in like 2 and 1/2 weeks then go to a losing streak like this ?

that's three 5 game chases I lost pretty much back to back to back

Anyone else ever been on a run this bad ??

**cogiditopapa** · 08-03-11, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by ColdBeerHere

Spiraling out of control here.....lost MLS tonight.....5th leg at all my books....I now have lost 12 in a row and 17 of last 18 games......

Wouldn't someone be able to pick better by closing eyes and throwing darts at games ? How can it be this bad ?

Well I got one more chase left in me....I lose one more chase before I make some of it back and I am done.....Don't understand how I can be on fire and win over 70 units in like 2 and 1/2 weeks then go to a losing streak like this ?

that's three 5 game chases I lost pretty much back to back to back

Anyone else ever been on a run this bad ??

I have, in fact most of us had.
Money Management and taking time off when you are focusing is crucial. You may be a great handicapper but when you encounter a extended losing streak youo should go re-group and start again. I am sure you know. take it easy, re-group and then go back to your winning streaks!!!!

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-05-11, 11:11 PM

Played MLS tonight....

Chalk up another loss for me...that's 13 in a row now, and 18 out of the last 19.....

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-06-11, 07:05 AM

Just lost a JAP-2 game....14 in a row, and 19 out of the last 20

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-06-11, 07:26 AM

Now that I think about it had I just bet both teams to win in those games I would have won every bet....I'm almost 100% positive that all those games the teams were + odds...in fact a decent amount of them had the dogs at +200 odds...hmmm....

Wonder if I should start doing that instead.....

You know damn well if I decide to switch the draws will start hitting.....

**pacers101** · 08-06-11, 02:38 PM

round robin w/2's $20 a parlay
8/6/11 7:30pm USA MLS Soccer 201 Draw (Toronto (USA-MLS) vs Washington (USA-MLS)) +288
8/6/11 7:30pm USA MLS Soccer 204 Draw (US Chivas (USA-MLS) vs New England (USA-MLS)) +225*
8/6/11 8:00pm USA MLS Soccer 207 Draw (Houston (USA-MLS) vs Philadelphia Union (USA-MLS)) +242*
8/6/11 9:00pm USA MLS Soccer 213 Draw (Red Bull New York (USA-MLS) vs Salt Lake (USA-MLS)) +229*

**pacers101** · 08-06-11, 02:40 PM

this is what I'm doing in addition to mls. just singles
8/6/11 8:00pm Mexico Soccer 310 Draw (UNAM Pumas (MEX) vs Guadalaraja Chivas (MEX)) +228*
8/6/11 6:00pm Mexico Soccer 301 Draw (Pachuca (MEX) vs Gallos Blancos (MEX)) +237*

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-06-11, 07:26 PM

Pacers, gl with your picks...I'm sure you will hit something as I didn't pick any of those games.....I did like the chivas / new england game but didn't get to place it in time.....

Well I lost another game in BRA-B SR/BkofAma.....that puts me at 15 losses in a row and 20 out of the last 21 that I lost.....

If I don't hit this one I'm throwin' in the towel on the draws.....If I lose this it pretty much has decimated me a the books....I would have lost back all 70+ of those units I won and then some.....

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-06-11, 10:16 PM

16 losses in a row and I'm done...Guess draws aren't for me.....My brain is still not comprehending how I could win all those units in like 2 and 1/2 weeks and then loss it all back.....I mean I was picking draws sometimes 4 out of 5 games....I've picked three in a row, etc.....It's just such a drastic 180....

So now I am looking into betting both teams to win the complete opposite of the draw...

Stay tuned for my first pick cause you know that game will DRAW ! And then my laptop goes through the window.

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-06-11, 10:35 PM

OK well my new formula is to pick both teams to win and try and get the highest vig + for both teams....

First bet is JAP-1 Vegalta Sendai +188 and Omiya Ardija +170

If I was still betting draws I like this as a draw....Now of course you know this game will probably draw since I just lost 16 in a row, and switch my betting strategy......

**dabomguy11** · 08-07-11, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by pacers101

round robin w/2's $20 a parlay
8/6/11 7:30pm USA MLS Soccer 201 Draw (Toronto (USA-MLS) vs Washington (USA-MLS)) +288
8/6/11 7:30pm USA MLS Soccer 204 Draw (US Chivas (USA-MLS) vs New England (USA-MLS)) +225*
8/6/11 8:00pm USA MLS Soccer 207 Draw (Houston (USA-MLS) vs Philadelphia Union (USA-MLS)) +242*
8/6/11 9:00pm USA MLS Soccer 213 Draw (Red Bull New York (USA-MLS) vs Salt Lake (USA-MLS)) +229*

Damn, nice hit on the Toronto/DC and Houstin/Philly parlay. The Toronto game was absolutely ridiculous. One of the craziest games I ever saw. I liked the Chivas/NE game to draw as well, but I only took Chivas PK, +.5, which turned out to be a wise decision. As the draws have started to slow down, is your parlay system still working out?

**twelvejewelz** · 08-07-11, 05:15 AM

What do you think of the psv/ az alkmaar draw? Starting in 15 minutes. Im on the fence right now about this one right now and trying to decide if im going to play it or not

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-07-11, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by ColdBeerHere

OK well my new formula is to pick both teams to win and try and get the highest vig + for both teams....

First bet is JAP-1 Vegalta Sendai +188 and Omiya Ardija +170

If I was still betting draws I like this as a draw....Now of course you know this game will probably draw since I just lost 16 in a row, and switch my betting strategy......

What did I fukkin tell you...I bet the draw and lose 15 fukking games in a row....

So I fukking change my system to bet agaisnt the draw and the very first fukking game is a draw...You have got to be fukking kidding me. Unfukking real.

**ColdBeerHere** · 08-07-11, 07:23 AM

OK I have cooled down and readjusted my system...But I will still probably loss so go ahead and fade me....

Instead of chase betting the draw...I am going to chase bet ml picks of +150 or more...that +150 has to be the "fav" in the game....

First up for me is scotland premier league Hearts +184 Motherwell +168 Draw is +241.....

So I'll go with Motherwell +168...So that means you want to bet Hearts or the draw...

**Brk1907** · 08-07-11, 07:47 AM

follow

**pacers101** · 08-07-11, 09:45 AM

didn't post this because I woke up in the middle of the night and placed this bet then went back to sleep. and actually I see I placed this 2 min before the 1st game started. but the 2 draws are 2 of my 3 goto teams for draws urawa being the other one.
85172272-1 8/7/11 4:58am $20.00 $270.73 $290.73 Win 3 Team Parlay
Win 8/7/11 5:00am Japan Soccer 1182 Gamba Osaka (JPN-1) -399* vs Avispa Fukuoka (JPN-1)
Win 8/7/11 6:00am Japan Soccer 1184 Draw (Vegalta Sendai (JPN-1) vs Omiya Ardija (JPN-1)) +234*
Win 8/7/11 6:00am Japan Soccer 1196 Draw (Oita Trinita (JPN-2) vs Shonan Bellmare (JPN-2)) +248*

**pacers101** · 08-07-11, 02:47 PM

I know tecos is really bad but I will go with the draw tonight in mexico in the tecos/tigres game. I might go with the draw in the chicago/vancover game in mls as well.

I got +231 for the mexico game and +222 for mls.

side note argentina has started up and 4 out of 6 have gone draw. another league that has potential that I found early this week is germany lg3. up until wed 9 out of the 1st 20 games tied. personally I was on 5 of those games and won 3. I was out for the most part since thur and I see they only had 1 draw out of the 10 this weekend. so has potential based on the 1st 2 rounds of games but proceed with caution. another one that I'm looking at is costa rica where I am 2-2 so far but 5 out of 13 have tied. even though I haven't been betting it except for the opening day france 2 is doing well for draws 6 out of 19.

**hoop22** · 08-09-11, 05:51 AM

yup

**pacers101** · 08-09-11, 07:09 AM

$20.00 $219.14 Pending 2 Team Parlay
8/9/11 2:00pm France Soccer 354 Draw (Vannes (FRA Cup) vs Guingamp (FRA Cup)) +276* vs Vannes (FRA Cup)
8/9/11 2:00pm France Soccer 357 Draw (Chateauroux (FRA Cup) vs Nantes (FRA Cup)) +218* vs Chateauroux (FRA Cup)

**pacers101** · 08-09-11, 06:23 PM

parlay didn't hit but did go 1-1 on singles

**Ethan** · 08-11-11, 06:36 AM

Parlay failed but a good try.

**psulions** · 08-21-11, 07:31 PM

Sporting KC Even money tonight. DC is resting a few guys DeRosario, Davies. KC has been really good at home.

**pacers101** · 10-23-11, 05:26 PM

I've been away for a while but I'm back for the moment. tonight I have: 10/23/11 7:00pm USA MLS Soccer 351 Los Angeles (USA-MLS) +284* vs Houston (USA-MLS)
I'm also on the draw in costa rica but that has already started. tomorrow I will do the draw in france 2. I hit the one in france 2 yesterday and hit 1 out of 2 on friday, very good draw league.

**pacers101** · 10-23-11, 07:26 PM

wtf at least in jail I wasn't losing money. **** this

**pacers101** · 10-24-11, 12:14 PM

ok france 2 draw and old boys/all boys argentina draw.

**pacers101** · 10-24-11, 11:43 PM

france 2 busted up by a 84' goal, but old boys/all boys came through. 1-1 today

**pacers101** · 10-25-11, 09:09 PM

couple draws for japan:
10/26/11 6:00am Japan Soccer 1254 Draw (Kyoto (JPN-2) vs Shonan Bellmare (JPN-2)) +212*
10/26/11 6:00am Japan Soccer 1275 Draw (Sapporo (JPN-2) vs Tokushima Vortis (JPN-2)) +212*

**pacers101** · 10-27-11, 10:40 AM

argentina and france 2 are the primo draw leagues. today going with:
10/27/11 4:00pm Spain Soccer 354 Draw (Atletico Madrid (ESP-P) vs Athletic Bilbao (ESP-P)) +250*
10/27/11 2:00pm Spain Soccer 351 Draw (Betis (ESP-P) vs Espanyol (ESP-P)) +241*
I think at least one of these will draw, hopefully both

I might take a draw in mls. colorado likes to draw at home. but it's a playoff game so anything can happen I think the play is either draw or colorado. columbus isn't good on the road and doesn't draw much so I'm debating which way to go. of course last night dallas was decent at home and NY loves the draw and NY ends up winning so anything can happen. opinions/insight would be welcomed

**JT OZ** · 10-27-11, 11:12 AM

I live in Columbus and they have some lineup issues to juggle with, mainly Epko being suspended for this match and how they are going to fill his spot. A couple of guys are still kinda banged up (Rogers, Orourke) and Columbus doesn't have a great track record in Colorado. Historically they are 3-10-4 in Colorado but these teams played two competitive games last year in the playoffs (1-0 Colorado at home and 2-2 in Columbus) so I'm looking at the draw. As much as I want to see Columbus win it's probably going to be Colorado or draw for me.

**DIESELHEEL** · 10-27-11, 04:21 PM

They can't draw, it's a playoff game.

**pacers101** · 10-27-11, 04:24 PM

don't they go to extra time and shoot out after 90' like europe? so a tie at ft would be draw, correct. or is it different in mls?