SPain win thanks to their 13th man, Howard webb! LOL

[xGrr]

honestly anyone who says its the ref fault has 0 clue on soccer so i will be nice and i am going to teach you a few things, first webb is very good ref one of the top 3 for sure and don't forget he also was the ref for other high profile matches. The game was absolutely retarded, dutch team was fouling way way too much and honestly they should of had at least 1 red card before the first half, especially that karate kick on xavi alonso if anything webb did a big favor for the dutch but i believe webb didn't want to screw a wc final like that.

Second Robben probably the player any person would of picked for a break away to score for the dutch missed 2 times and he basically had all the time in the world on the first chance to score. If anything blame him.

Spain played good but the game was just very hard to call and ref, sure webb didnt do amazing but if u told me before a game he would be like this i would def take it because if that game was played in premiership i am sure he would of handed 3-4 reds, i can't think of many refs who would of not sent someone in the first or early 2nd half to be honest. Dutchs lost there cool and were in panic mode, RVP didnt do **** all either.

Spain deserved the win and the ref was very good.

[COOGI]

honestly anyone who says its the ref fault has 0 clue on soccer so i will be nice and i am going to teach you a few things, first webb is very good ref one of the top 3 for sure and don't forget he also was the ref for other high profile matches. The game was absolutely retarded, dutch team was fouling way way too much and honestly they should of had at least 1 red card before the first half, especially that karate kick on xavi alonso if anything webb did a big favor for the dutch but i believe webb didn't want to screw a wc final like that. Second Robben probably the player any person would of picked for a break away to score for the dutch missed 2 times and he basically had all the time in the world on the first chance to score. If anything blame him. Spain played good but the game was just very hard to call and ref, sure webb didnt do amazing but if u told me before a game he would be like this i would def take it because if that game was played in premiership i am sure he would of handed 3-4 reds, i can't think of many refs who would of not sent someone in the first or early 2nd half to be honest. Dutchs lost there cool and were in panic mode, RVP didnt do **** all either. Spain deserved the win and the ref was very good.

teach my assssssssssssssssssssu english play soccer like ssssssssssssssiiihhhhhhhhhhhhhh go back to england and teach your national team how to play soccer wat a looswer webbb

[COOGI]

Will send death threat to Howard Webb shortly.

yeah do it webbb succkckckkererekrerkekrerkekc... he bet spain to win the world cup with 500k dollars so he favored spain

[CoZalon]

Are u completely blind or just ignoring the truth? If another ref, the asian one for example, had been assigned Holland wouldve recieved 3-4 reds and perhaps even a penalty shot for Spain!!! He didnt give the dutch team more cards if they already had a yellow but he gladly did it vs Spain ( thinking about when Robben "scored 15 seconds after the offsidewhistle)

[Dirty Sanchez]

Like I said earlier...Howard Webb is the BEST referee in football...the guy was selected for the Champions League and World Cup Final because of his ratings. Everyone of those cards were valid, and it's just sour grapes for anyone who says he's a bad ref. If you want a bad ref go to Uruquay or Mali for those guys who can't see a goal or phantom fouls. There's a reason he was selected to run those matches, and it's not because he's bad.

Also making comments like you guys have are way over the top and really says alot

[Sandro777]

I lost $200 because of the missed corner call (in all likelihood) but never for a second blamed the ref for the game. Netherlands is the one to blame. Had every chance to win but ****** it all up.

[lakerboy]

Anyone who thinks Howard Webb is a good ref hasnt watched a lot of his matches. He reffed the big matches cause England wasnt involved and they didnt want to bring anyone in from the continent to ensure there is no biased decisions. Just watch a Man u game this year with him in charge. His display today was inconsistent and he missed some big calls.

[COOGI]

Anyone who thinks Howard Webb is a good ref hasnt watched a lot of his matches. He reffed the big matches cause England wasnt involved and they didnt want to bring anyone in from the continent to ensure there is no biased decisions. Just watch a Man u game this year with him in charge. His display today was inconsistent and he missed some big calls.

[Dirty Sanchez]

"His display today was inconsistent and he missed some big calls"....the Dutch were looking to rough Spain up, and Yes the Dutch are upset at the number of cards...but they've got no one to blame but themselves with some of their misses such as Robben's. Webb was in a no win situation because he was damned either way because letting blatant tackles go creates just as much controversy.
Rio Ferdinand: "The players aren't making this easy for our referee Mr Webb," commented Rio Ferdinand on his Twitter page."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/12/howard-webb-final-nightmare-yellow-cards

[JOHON8]

Reffing was horrible as usual, solution = a change of the system itself.

As for who deserved to win in the run of play... Spain. Dutch fans who find excuses in the refs are ignoring how disgusting their tactics were vs Spain. Brazil broke down mentally to this team, but Spain held it together and fought through the Karate chops.

[Scorpion]

Im just wondering at 115 minute Holland has a free kick, the ball hits a spanish player, its should be a corner kick for Holland but Webb did not call it, if he makes the right call here do u think Spain would still score the winning goal a minute later?

Seems to me the ******* police sergeant ****** up!

Thank you officer Webb!

[Alejandra]

Spain the world champion!

[SoV]

BITTER THREAD ALERT!

[SoV]

Anyone who thinks Howard Webb is a good ref hasnt watched a lot of his matches. He reffed the big matches cause England wasnt involved and they didnt want to bring anyone in from the continent to ensure there is no biased decisions. Just watch a Man u game this year with him in charge. His display today was inconsistent and he missed some big calls.

He's a shit referee. But those saying Spain won because of him are being bitter and sore.

[hustla]

"Ref a World Cup final? Howard Webb can't even control his own children, says wife"
... Mrs Webb told GMTV: 'I don't know how he does it. He can't take charge of his own children. I don't know how he manages it on a football pitch...

[SoV]

Coogi, where are you from, because you are very bitter towards the English.

[Dark Horse]

"Ref a World Cup final? Howard Webb can't even control his own children, says wife"
... Mrs Webb told GMTV: 'I don't know how he does it. He can't take charge of his own children. I don't know how he manages it on a football pitch...

The ref was very uneven in the final. Spain was playing just as dirty as Holland (apart from the De Jong kick), but got away with most of it.

As to Robben diving. Many may not understand the difference, but he's not really a diver. As a Brazil player said: "he jumped up every time". If you study Robben you'll see that he often jumps up just before the contact is coming. He's learned to avoid the contact, but in almost all cases it's still a real foul. And he's probably prolonging his career by avoiding consistent hard fouls to his legs, by defenders who are not remotely in his class. If a player like Van Basten had taken a page from this book, he may have added ten years to his (shortened) career.

Diving is acting as if there is a foul, when there is none. Big difference. The Spanish were the ones diving in the final, Iniesta the worst of them.

[ararat2010]

damn refs story again ((((((((((

[Slainte]

One of the weakest refs i have seen, for nearly 20 years of watching football

[mihaita666]

...and what do you mean by the 13th man ? as far as Im concerned, a football/soccer team consists in 11 players. u have nothing to do with this sport, you are one of those who stayed here for the WC period, and that's it.....or you have problems with adding 2 number : 1 + 11 = 12, not 13

[nah0228]

For the most part I thought the ref did alright other than missing that corner he didn't really lean torwards Spain at all

[Gilero]

Blatter: "The final was not exactly what FIFA would have expected in terms of 'fair play'" The FIFA president was not entirely satisfied after what he saw in the Soccer City. Netherlands Webb hit a lot and let him. There was' fair-play and Blatter regrets

[TurkzZ]

while Webb isn't the best ref it was a hard game to officiate, its a no win situation, he sends off the Dutch guys he would be accused of ruining a final, he gave it every chance possible IMO, decisions like the corner that should have been are just errors that occur rarely, sometimes they go for you, sometimes against, Holland 2nd team goal vs Uruguay for instance should have been offside...

[gabrymoschi]

If Webb good ref, Neth without 2 players after 15 minutes!!!
So, shut up and....
.... go Spain

[mihaita666]

I really don't understand these guys who said that Spain was helped by Webb. It's like accusing someone of something that you did . If Spain had lost the final, the would have had all the rights in the World to say sth about the ref, but it wasn;t the case, and Netherlands was very lucky for the whole tournament : deflected shots resulting into goals, goals from possible offsides, etc.

[lockwoot]

I really don't understand these guys who said that Spain was helped by Webb. It's like accusing someone of something that you did . If Spain had lost the final, the would have had all the rights in the World to say sth about the ref, but it wasn;t the case, and Netherlands was very lucky for the whole tournament : deflected shots resulting into goals, goals from possible offsides, etc.

possible offsides ? if i remembered correctly one of spain goals was offside


spain was just horribly inefficient the whole world cup those little passes in the back end add up nice to the statistics but doesn't help you score goals , and one point is that the referee didn't call a obvious deflection that everyone could see and a block of 2 ppl against 1 dutch player these were easy too see those fouls are harder too see and are easier too give someone yellow , no doubt that spain were the better team in that particular match but those calls not called on the end was a clear attempt to make up for the not giving red cards that webb obviously had seen video of during breaks

[Retibol]

Netherlands got unlucky! PURE UNLUCK

[nj6]

I really don't understand these guys who said that Spain was helped by Webb. It's like accusing someone of something that you did . If Spain had lost the final, the would have had all the rights in the World to say sth about the ref, but it wasn;t the case, and Netherlands was very lucky for the whole tournament : deflected shots resulting into goals, goals from possible offsides, etc.

I really don't understand your post.

[filter15]

Webb just called the fouls he saw can't blame him

[Mexes]

webb is the most overrated referee EVER!

[Dirty Sanchez]

Why then was he selected twice this season for the biggest games? Answer: He had the best ratings and evaluations

Former Premier League and World Cup referee Grahm Poll, speaking to BBC Radio Four's Today Programme, added: "I thought he did very well in very testing circumstances. "He chose to do it his way, which I think made it a better game. Had he chosen to step in and apply the laws strictly, which hasn't been done the whole World Cup to be fair to Howard, we could have ended up with probably eight Dutch players on the pitch.
"As it's a World Cup final I'd give his performance a nine [out of 10]."

[nobull]

they won in OT because howard screwed Spain over in the 1st half by not calling a red card on the kung fu guy in orange. if not for that, Spain would've blown out the orange with 1 man advantage in regulation.

[COOGI]

Howard webb is an idiot....he just a normal ref to me...nothing speacial...i cash on Netherland + .5 in 90mins ... so i am not lossing money here...i just feel that Netherland deserved to win the cup...spain play ok this world cup...also only 4 min left....he should not give the 2nd yellow card to Holland .....it just a normal fault..he should gave a bunch of red card early not wait until last min...

[Naz18]

If anything Holland should thank Webb for not giving out at least 3 potential red cards to dutch players...

[COOGI]

If anything Holland should thank Webb for not giving out at least 3 potential red cards to dutch players...

well like i said he is not a good Ref ...he should gave a bunch of card on both side...on spain too.. and should be on holland too