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  • THE PROFIT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-27-09
    • 17701

    #1
    soccer question
    I don't know shit about soccer or betting soccer. Why is a PK way more expensive than ML? Is it because soccer can end in a tie & you win with a PK? still doesn't make sense. Would some limey european explain or anyone that didn't grow up in east tennessee like me
  • iceminers26
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-13-08
    • 15600

    #2
    If you bet the pk price and it ends in a draw you get a refund
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    • THE PROFIT
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-27-09
      • 17701

      #3
      Is there a tutorial in the think tank? Not that I really want to bet soccer, just like to know. Some of the guys like Eaglesphan is pretty sharp & if I was to tail a play I'd like to know at least what the hell is going on & what I'm betting
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      • iceminers26
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-13-08
        • 15600

        #4
        I should have added that if you just bet the ML and it ends in a draw, its graded a loss
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        • THE PROFIT
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-27-09
          • 17701

          #5
          Originally posted by iceminers26
          If you bet the pk price and it ends in a draw you get a refund
          so its a push? But on moneyline you lose?
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          • THE PROFIT
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-27-09
            • 17701

            #6
            Thanks ice. any more tidbits of wisdom that could be helpful?
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            • iceminers26
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-13-08
              • 15600

              #7
              Originally posted by THE PROFIT
              so its a push? But on moneyline you lose?
              thanks for the points buddy

              yes, on a pk if it draws its graded a push and on a ML in a draw its graded a loss, that's why the pk prices are always so much higher
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              • iceminers26
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-13-08
                • 15600

                #8
                Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                Thanks ice. any more tidbits of wisdom that could be helpful?
                you are probably not that familiar with Asian odds either, I know I wasn't when I first started playing soccer. Say a total is showing, 2 and 2.5 (-110) and you like the over and want to invest a total of 110 to win 100, the wagers are split in half, one for each line, so you would have 55 to win 50 on over 2 and 55 to win 50 on over 2.5.
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                • iceminers26
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-13-08
                  • 15600

                  #9
                  Also I have found that + money totals hit at a pretty good rate, I don't play every league (mostly EPL) and this does not constitute a play alone but if I cap a game and I like say the under but it is juiced heavy, I will just pass on it.
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                  • DarkNite
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-12-09
                    • 5023

                    #10
                    I have just started to interest in soccer betting. From the site I use, I see this:
                    Main event: I can bet Home wins, Draw, Visitor wins.
                    If I go deeper, I see: Draw No Bet (DNB): If I think that this team will win but on the second thought, it may be DRAW, so I select DNB but with lower odds. If this team wins = money, but if this team loses, the money is refunded.
                    Goals Over/Under, we know it.
                    Double chance: I do not know and have never used it.
                    Correct score: We know it, I have tried a couple times, no hit.
                    And then Fist Team to score, Half-time result, Half with most goals, Total goals-Odd or Even-> I will try very soon.
                    I can bet single game or combinations, that's the good point.
                    Yes, I am still learning.
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                    • THE PROFIT
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-27-09
                      • 17701

                      #11
                      I'll study it a little
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                      • loyd
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 02-16-10
                        • 376

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DarkNite
                        Double chance: I do not know and have never used it.
                        double chance means uou bet 2 outcomes instead of one and u have more chance to win, if you bet double chance 1X it means you win if the home team wins or makes a draw
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                        • DarkNite
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-12-09
                          • 5023

                          #13
                          Originally posted by loyd
                          double chance means uou bet 2 outcomes instead of one and u have more chance to win, if you bet double chance 1X it means you win if the home team wins or makes a draw
                          Thank you, loyd! Now I know and it seems the odds very low but it's safe to use this option.
                          Today I learn something new.
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                          • Masu485
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-14-08
                            • 7700

                            #14
                            also, 33% of all games you bet on will have a 90th minute goal, which will ruin your bet if you are winning.
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                            • beeps220
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-29-10
                              • 4227

                              #15
                              I'm fairly new to betting soccer myself. One thing I've found is the team I bet on will get red cards and if the opposition gets a red card they will still score
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                              • Tommy_de1st
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-23-10
                                • 8397

                                #16
                                Originally posted by beeps220
                                I'm fairly new to betting soccer myself. One thing I've found is the team I bet on will get red cards and if the opposition gets a red card they will still score
                                just dont understand what you saying,
                                1 red card = 1 player (who got this card) must go out of the pitch
                                2 red cards = 2 players must go

                                Whats the relation with scoring goals?
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                                • beeps220
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-29-10
                                  • 4227

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Tommy_de1st
                                  just dont understand what you saying,
                                  1 red card = 1 player (who got this card) must go out of the pitch
                                  2 red cards = 2 players must go

                                  Whats the relation with scoring goals?

                                  When a player gets a red card he is out of the game and that team is playing minus a man.

                                  With my luck lately my team either gets a red card and gets killed. Or the opposition gets a red card and my team cannot score
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                                  • Tommy_de1st
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-23-10
                                    • 8397

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by beeps220
                                    When a player gets a red card he is out of the game and that team is playing minus a man.

                                    With my luck lately my team either gets a red card and gets killed. Or the opposition gets a red card and my team cannot score
                                    I know all that stuff bout football
                                    I see now what you meant
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                                    • bolat19
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 03-11-10
                                      • 54

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Masu485
                                      also, 33% of all games you bet on will have a 90th minute goal, which will ruin your bet if you are winning.
                                      If i only could make those goals disapere it would make me a fortune.. always kills me 90+
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                                      • loyd
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 02-16-10
                                        • 376

                                        #20
                                        on some sites you can even bet the number of corners in the match, like over/under 10.5 corners. it can be interesting as the number of corners doesn't have to do with how good r the teams.
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                                        • thecomebacker
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 01-18-10
                                          • 92

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bolat19
                                          If i only could make those goals disapere it would make me a fortune.. always kills me 90+
                                          try getting on the 1st half line instead and you'll never need to worry about that
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                                          • loyd
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 02-16-10
                                            • 376

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by thecomebacker

                                            try getting on the 1st half line instead and you'll never need to worry about that
                                            good advice untill you bet on a team that didn't score in the 1 half but in the second. it happened to me once in the french league.
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                                            • rfr3sh
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-07-09
                                              • 10229

                                              #23
                                              why not just hedge your bet at the 80th minute if you are getting killed lately from late goals
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                                              • loyd
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 02-16-10
                                                • 376

                                                #24
                                                he is probably betting with us books which don't allow in-play betting.
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                                                • Sanka
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-29-10
                                                  • 2641

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by DarkNite
                                                  If I go deeper, I see: Draw No Bet (DNB): If I think that this team will win but on the second thought, it may be DRAW, so I select DNB but with lower odds. If this team wins = money, but if this team loses, the money is refunded.
                                                  Money is only refunded when the game ends in a draw, not when your team loses (hence the name Draw No Bet lol)
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