This is the draw in Italy this weekend - GET ON

Retibol · 03-31-10, 10:59 AM

Even if the game isnt fixed, most likely the game will end up Draw anyway

I bet 5u

diamond · 03-31-10, 06:12 PM

Bump. Still no major changes.

robmpink · 03-31-10, 06:25 PM

Last weeks game wasn't up at my book.

Masu485 · 03-31-10, 06:26 PM

i took the draw today at +124. eager to see how this one turns out also

diamond · 03-31-10, 06:29 PM

Hope it hits, Southern Italy deserves it :P

onlooker · 04-02-10, 02:47 PM

The draw at 5dimes has pushed back up to +136.

And SBRbook took all lines down.

Masu485 · 04-02-10, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by onlòóker

The draw at 5dimes has pushed back up to +136.

And SBRbook took all lines down.

same as last week, except i'm even more nervous this time...

yisman · 04-02-10, 02:56 PM

same old, whenever the draw is favored, a lot of the American books don't offer it.

Pinnacle's odds have the draw odds going up instead of down.

9:53 +184 / +234 / +16403/29 09:54 +186 / +237 / +161
03/29 09:55 +188 / +242 / +156
03/29 09:56 +190 / +235 / +158
03/29 09:57 +184 / +240 / +160
03/29 10:07 +188 / +244 / +155
03/29 10:09 +192 / +249 / +150
03/29 10:11 +195 / +254 / +145
03/29 10:19 +196 / +256 / +143
03/29 10:21 +200 / +261 / +120
03/29 10:22 +210 / +295 / +120
03/29 10:23 +213 / +285 / +122
03/29 10:24 +210 / +280 / +125
03/29 10:25 +212 / +274 / +126
03/29 10:25 +212 / +270 / +128
03/29 10:32 +214 / +263 / +130
03/29 10:33 +211 / +260 / +132
03/29 10:38 +209 / +261 / +133
03/29 10:39 +211 / +263 / +126
03/29 10:40 +218 / +265 / +126
03/29 11:07 +220 / +267 / +124
03/29 11:20 +222 / +269 / +123
03/29 11:29 +235 / +260 / +120
03/29 11:40 +231 / +256 / +124
03/29 11:45 +240 / +245 / +124
03/29 11:47 +236 / +241 / +128
03/29 11:47 +236 / +240 / +128
03/29 12:06 +232 / +245 / +129
03/29 12:07 +228 / +247 / +129
03/29 12:10 +215 / +262 / +129
03/29 12:17 +219 / +266 / +126
03/29 12:30 +220 / +267 / +125
03/29 13:42 +224 / +262 / +125
03/29 13:42 +224 / +262 / +126
03/29 14:31 +227 / +259 / +125
03/29 14:43 +225 / +260 / +126
03/29 14:55 +226 / +257 / +127
03/29 15:11 +227 / +255 / +128
03/29 15:14 +218 / +250 / +132
03/29 15:14 +215 / +245 / +136
03/29 15:53 +212 / +239 / +141
03/29 17:27 +218 / +245 / +135
03/29 17:29 +219 / +250 / +132
03/30 03:51 +220 / +245 / +134
03/30 03:54 +225 / +238 / +135
03/30 04:49 +227 / +240 / +133
03/30 05:06 +230 / +243 / +130
03/30 06:15 +231 / +244 / +129
03/30 07:49 +232 / +245 / +128
03/30 08:12 +234 / +247 / +126
03/30 08:53 +239 / +252 / +121
03/30 09:02 +237 / +253 / +122
03/30 14:32 +242 / +258 / +118
03/30 17:42 +247 / +264 / +114
03/30 19:22 +243 / +266 / +115
03/31 01:49 +245 / +268 / +114
03/31 04:37 +247 / +263 / +115
03/31 08:30 +245 / +264 / +115
03/31 08:49 +246 / +262 / +115
03/31 11:44 +247 / +264 / +114
03/31 15:16 +240 / +267 / +116
03/31 15:17 +242 / +260 / +117
03/31 15:19 +240 / +260 / +118
03/31 17:04 +242 / +255 / +119
04/01 07:17 +234 / +258 / +121
04/01 07:21 +232 / +258 / +122
04/01 08:41 +235 / +261 / +120
04/01 09:37 +238 / +253 / +122
04/01 11:44 +235 / +254 / +123
04/01 11:49 +229 / +255 / +125
04/02 04:51 +230 / +257 / +124
04/02 10:23 +232 / +252 / +125
04/02 13:05 +230 / +253 / +126
04/02 13:08 +228 / +254 / +127
04/02 13:09 +226 / +255 / +128
04/02 13:13 +221 / +257 / +129
04/02 13:14 +216 / +259 / +131
04/02 13:19 +203 / +257 / +138
04/02 14:52 +205 / +252 / +139

diamond · 04-02-10, 02:56 PM

Would be interesting to see.

gomiamigo · 04-02-10, 03:06 PM

Catania 210

dodger33 · 04-02-10, 03:09 PM

hopefully my local puts this up!

diamond · 04-02-10, 03:10 PM

doubt he will do.

Nyphra · 04-02-10, 03:14 PM

Diamond, can you tell the difference between market manipulation and a fixed game?

Tommy_de1st · 04-02-10, 03:15 PM

maybe a red card market is worth checking
Its Sicily inside game

Mr Windy City · 04-02-10, 03:16 PM

what's going on in the game?

diamond · 04-02-10, 03:20 PM

First of all Nyphra, I dont believe these matches are fixed. Its just acceptable in Italy that certain teams share the points at the end of the season. Yes we call it fix, but for them its just normal.

Regarding market manipulation, so far all the games I predicted have gone ok, and market stayed very balanced: You can never be sure, until perhaps one hour before kickoff, suddenly things can change. I still believe this game is a game where points will be shared.

Nyphra · 04-02-10, 03:26 PM

But these teams are rivals... points sharing seems for me out of the question. Well good luck everyone, I won't be going near these kind of games.

diamond · 04-02-10, 03:28 PM

I see your point, but normally I dont find reasons for the draw or not draw, I just try to read markets. And yes, in this case I dont believe its manipulation.

Tommy_de1st · 04-02-10, 03:28 PM

Not true
I read the article bout the fixed games in Italian football (serie B) the other day, one game in a week is fixed.
No chance to find out which one

diamond · 04-02-10, 03:30 PM

I know, even footballers from my country that has played there, states games are fixed. Im just saying for them its not a moral issue that the draw is "arranged". Besides in Serie B and the lower you go, the more fixes you see.

Tommy_de1st · 04-02-10, 03:33 PM

Its not that the draw is "arranged"
they arrange the correct score e.g 1-1 or 2-2 and you know what odds theyve got

diamond · 04-02-10, 03:34 PM

yeah

Still its acceptable.

Tommy_de1st · 04-02-10, 03:49 PM

You know what I think
This all draw thing can be done on purpose - look at the draw odds at the moment, same as should be on the halftime draw, its getting ridiculous.
When the draw line is going down then the lines for home and away vin are going up and those might be the play

diamond · 04-02-10, 04:00 PM

Over several years I learned to never go against a draw in Italy, when its set for a draw..yeah sometimes it might fail, but in the long run you will earn on it.

Goat Milk · 04-03-10, 04:33 AM

The last time these 2 played it was a draw. The 9 or 10 times before that, they never drew once. I would even give a a slight edge to Catania? I would bet them in case they win, but you'll just push even if they tie. Seems like the public is on the draw big time.

Goat Milk · 04-03-10, 04:35 AM

You like Juventes tomorrow PK plus 106 or 181 ML

diamond · 04-03-10, 04:43 AM

No opinion on Juventus so far

Jaug · 04-03-10, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by Gargamel

I'll take a punt on this, since the last two have hit. Definitely worth the risk of it being a mistake. Who knows, it might end up as a draw even if it wasn't planned

Exactly, the odds for draw without a fix would be only +210 or something like that. In other words, you will get 80% or so of your money back on average even if it is not a fix.

noober · 04-03-10, 05:49 AM

Sorry for the offtopic question but how do you get detailed knowledge of the line moves everytime it changes? Is this feature available for all bookmakers?

Sawyer · 04-03-10, 05:58 AM

Liked Chievo vs Sampdoria Draw as well!

GL Everybody!

SRBI · 04-03-10, 09:47 AM

You guys still on this or what - I'm seeing +128 for the game draw and -120 for halftime draw

diamond · 04-03-10, 10:05 AM

The same was the case in the first draw I predicted, draw was higher on the final result, than halftime.

diamond · 04-03-10, 11:28 AM

30 minutes to kickoff.

diamond · 04-03-10, 12:00 PM

Match just kicked off.

rfr3sh · 04-03-10, 12:14 PM

Miccoli to score a penalty/