Thurs Aug 17 .......... Top 10 reasons why this thread isnt for you

**franz555** · 08-16-17, 06:45 PM

Europa : 1:45pm est

Braga -1 @ 2.31 ( 3 units )
Over 2 @ 1.81 ( 2 units )
Matchbet: Braga & over 1.5 @ 2.12 ( 5 units )

Braga travel to Iceland, against a foe that is clearly a " Pub Team " by comparison. The mere transfer market value of these two teams ( $58 million to $2.7 million ) suggests that these two teams draw from a different fountain of youth. Braga are the team that now hangs on to the 4th place position in Portugal, since Sporting Lisbon took over as 3rd place challenger behind Porto and Benfica. Midfield is a position that will dictate this affair, and players like 21 year old Danilo ( worth 4.5 million and almost double all of the opponent ), Vukcevic, or forward Hassan, will control the tempo.

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 05:30 AM

Adding:

Osijek @ 2.05 ( 3 units )

Partizan / Videoton Over 2.5 @ 2.02 ( 2 units )

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 05:31 AM

Just to clarify......

1 unit = $100

**AlexLx** · 08-17-17, 05:50 AM

Braga is a good team, but one how's happy to go back home with a goal up. Lets see how it goes...

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by AlexLx

Braga is a good team, but one how's happy to go back home with a goal up. Lets see how it goes...

Of course " Away goals " are the tie breaking factor and extremely important.

**DiamondJack** · 08-17-17, 06:56 AM

Keep it rollin' Franz

**TheGoalWhsperer** · 08-17-17, 07:41 AM

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO!!!! MY MAN!!! #8...We know A LOT of MOOKS across the street who LIVE by that Philosophy, and a couple months later, end up

Some are STILL missing!!

And #3...I'm SURE a LOT of the CLUELESS MOOCHES come to your Threads to AVOID this being a daily/weekly/monthly OCCURRENCE!!

KICK SOME BOOKIE ASS IN EUROPA, MATE!!

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 11:01 AM

DJ

Goal #8 - I swear a guy here on SBR actually said that to me yesterday. Lol

Cheers Thanks for dropping by

**sjm5122** · 08-17-17, 11:25 AM

You're pretty ignorant if you think -200 can't be +EV at times.

What it if I rolled a normal 6 sided di and offered you -200 that it wouldnt land on 3? You would be stupid not to take that bet. Do you understand now?

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by sjm5122

You're pretty ignorant if you think -200 can't be +EV at times.

What it if I rolled a normal 6 sided di and offered you -200 that it wouldnt land on 3? You would be stupid not to take that bet. Do you understand now?

There can be value in a -200 play or a +200 play. Leave the guy alone and let him post his plays whether they are - or +, he is doing fine. He isn't sitting here posting -500 ML's every pick.

Here is your comment, which you chose to direct at me even though it had zero relevance to yourself. My comment was directed at another poster in the thread, and totally irrelevant to your rambling INTERJECTION. To once again bring you back to reality, and stay on point with the conversation and point at hand, to suggest that there can be value in a -200 wager on a soccer game is absolutely moronic.

Understand now ?

**sjm5122** · 08-17-17, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by franz555

There can be value in a -200 play or a +200 play. Leave the guy alone and let him post his plays whether they are - or +, he is doing fine. He isn't sitting here posting -500 ML's every pick.

Here is your comment, which you chose to direct at me even though it had zero relevance to yourself. My comment was directed at another poster in the thread, and totally irrelevant to your rambling INTERJECTION. To once again bring you back to reality, and stay on point with the conversation and point at hand, to suggest that there can be value in a -200 wager on a soccer game is absolutely moronic.

Understand now ?

I understand you can't do basic math.

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by sjm5122

I understand you can't do basic math.

I looked everywhere for your thread, and any sign of a positive contribution to this forum.......NOTHING

Trolls like yourself are a waste of time and effort. I am here to make some money wagering on Footie. I post my wagers daily, i keep a very accurate account of my results. You ? Pretty much the square root of Fukk all

Stay out of my threads and find someone else to Troll. I am in a SOCCER WAGERING FORUM......WAGERING ON SOCCER

**sjm5122** · 08-17-17, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by franz555

I looked everywhere for your thread, and any sign of a positive contribution to this forum.......NOTHING

Trolls like yourself are a waste of time and effort. I am here to make some money wagering on Footie. I post my wagers daily, i keep a very accurate account of my results. You ? Pretty much the square root of Fukk all

Stay out of my threads and find someone else to Troll. I am in a SOCCER WAGERING FORUM......WAGERING ON SOCCER

I don't remember it being me that went into someone elses thread (who had a succesful EPL thread last year), to question unit sizes and make comments about betting juicy lines. Take your clown act somewhere else, maybe back to whatever forum you ran from.

**Na_mean** · 08-17-17, 02:39 PM

Triple555, keep doing your thang.

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by franz555

Europa : 1:45pm est

Braga -1 @ 2.31 ( 3 units )
Over 2 @ 1.81 ( 2 units )
Matchbet: Braga & over 1.5 @ 2.12 ( 5 units )

Braga travel to Iceland, against a foe that is clearly a " Pub Team " by comparison. The mere transfer market value of these two teams ( $58 million to $2.7 million ) suggests that these two teams draw from a different fountain of youth. Braga are the team that now hangs on to the 4th place position in Portugal, since Sporting Lisbon took over as 3rd place challenger behind Porto and Benfica. Midfield is a position that will dictate this affair, and players like 21 year old Danilo ( worth 4.5 million and almost double all of the opponent ), Vukcevic, or forward Hassan, will control the tempo.

A push and 2 more winners

+ $722.00

Last time i checked, people want to win money wagering on soccer, me too. I appreciate all POSITIVE insight from any poster who wishes to provide it. I promote , participate and encourage all soccer conversations the benefit the over all cause......WINNING SOME MONEY !

Again, i refer to Post #1 and the heading of this thread.

Trolls are never welcome here

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Na_mean

Triple555, keep doing your thang.

Thanks

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 04:00 PM

Adding: Live 68th min

Dinamo Kiev @ 2.60 ( 2 units )

**franz555** · 08-17-17, 04:01 PM

Adding: Live 42nd minute

Junior / Huila over 2.5 @ 2.37 ( 2 units )

**cashin81** · 08-18-17, 06:05 AM

What a stupid comment.

-200 can have value. Value is when you beat "true odds". If the true odds for something is -500 and you are offered -200, then thats value.

Also if you considerably beat the closing line, for example Milan yesterday they were -400 at one point. That would have been a value bet had you bet early as they went off -900.

Moreover if you think ALL -200 are non value then you are saying the flip side of everything -200 ( every single +170 bet) would be value - nonsense.

SJM is a good guy, I dont know why anyone would have a problem with him

**sjm5122** · 08-18-17, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by cashin81

What a stupid comment.

-200 can have value. Value is when you beat "true odds". If the true odds for something is -500 and you are offered -200, then thats value.

Also if you considerably beat the closing line, for example Milan yesterday they were -400 at one point. That would have been a value bet had you bet early as they went off -900.

Moreover if you think ALL -200 are non value then you are saying the flip side of everything -200 ( every single +170 bet) would be value - nonsense.

SJM is a good guy, I dont know why anyone would have a problem with him

This was my point, thanks cash.

**Nastrovje** · 08-18-17, 08:25 AM

If Real Madrid plays against a low team like Levante and I can get -200 on it, I milk that line like crazy because it's pure value.

I think what franz really wanted to say is that he thinks it's stupid to always play favourites and maybe even last minute with the worst odds. Being a casual gambler so to say

**franz555** · 08-18-17, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by cashin81

What a stupid comment.

-200 can have value. Value is when you beat "true odds". If the true odds for something is -500 and you are offered -200, then thats value.

Also if you considerably beat the closing line, for example Milan yesterday they were -400 at one point. That would have been a value bet had you bet early as they went off -900.

Moreover if you think ALL -200 are non value then you are saying the flip side of everything -200 ( every single +170 bet) would be value - nonsense.

SJM is a good guy, I dont know why anyone would have a problem with him

Where to start ? Cashin, I get it that you see me as the " outsider " and came here to back a poster that u seem to be a part of your posse. " I don't know why anyone would have a problem with him " ? Obviously you didn't take the time to read all of his comments towards me, overlooking the obvious fact... HE INITIATED an attack on me without understanding the point being made. At no time has he apologised, so I see him as the Troll that he is.

As for my comment regarding " Value ", it is based on the very simple premise of risk/reward. Anyone who makes wagers of -200 with regularity will end up bankrupt.

To go back to my initial comments in Wikis thread, I merely stated to another user , who was promoting him as " just tail this guy ", as I didn't consider - 170 to be tailing material. ( something that NOBODY should do blindly imo)
Wiki felt the need to defend his lack of posting all his odds and wagering amounts by stating that he had a history of winning. Glad to hear, but it doesn't state amount wagered or the odds they were wagered at. As I mentioned yesterday, I have no problem with that, I just don't take it seriously for obvious reasons.

**cashin81** · 08-18-17, 08:56 AM

Posse? Outsider? lol

You are missing the point. "Anyone who makes wager of -200 will regularly go bankrupt" "simple premise of risk/reward"

There can be value at -200, so you cant regularly go bankrupt by taking them. By your notion, you are saying anyone he simply bets +300 is at an advantage - which isnt true. You could be terrible at picking +300 shots as you cant spot value, or someone else could be clever at picking -200 at the right moments, and make money. Risk reward is based on what the true odds are.

**franz555** · 08-18-17, 09:10 AM

Cashin. You are now choosing to create new scenarios that I have
never stated. If you do not like my opinions, don't come into my threads.
I am not going to waste my time educating people on how to make money wagering. It is indeed a marathon and I have a proven winning track record for the past few years. I will continue to wager as I see fit, and I will continue to have opinions that differ from yours.

MY THREAD.......my 2 cents

**sjm5122** · 08-18-17, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by franz555

Cashin. You are now choosing to create new scenarios that I have
never stated. If you do not like my opinions, don't come into my threads.
I am not going to waste my time educating people on how to make money wagering. It is indeed a marathon and I have a proven winning track record for the past few years. I will continue to wager as I see fit, and I will continue to have opinions that differ from yours.

MY THREAD.......my 2 cents

I don't think cash or I will have any problem staying out of your threads.

All I tried explaining to you is that it is pretty hypocritical to complain about others coming into your threads, when you FIRST went into wikkid's thread to question him betting a -170 line and how he displayed his units. Do you not see the hypocrisy there?

Then you posted repeatedly mocking my comment in here about how it is possible to find value in a -200 line. Yes, betting all juice is probably a recipe for disaster, but as I stated wikkid doesnt post -500 plays every week.

If that somehow makes me the troll in your mind, whatever.

**franz555** · 08-18-17, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by sjm5122

I don't think cash or I will have any problem staying out of your threads.

All I tried explaining to you is that it is pretty hypocritical to complain about others coming into your threads, when you FIRST went into wikkid's thread to question him betting a -170 line and how he displayed his units. Do you not see the hypocrisy there?

Then you posted repeatedly mocking my comment in here about how it is possible to find value in a -200 line. Yes, betting all juice is probably a recipe for disaster, but as I stated wikkid doesnt post -500 plays every week.

If that somehow makes me the troll in your mind, whatever.

I disagree. You seem to have OCD and have continued to spread lies about me, attack me without provfocation, and return to this thread again, and again, and again, and again.

#1 AT NO TIME DID I MAKE A DEROGATORY COMMENT TOWARDS THE USER WIKI
#2 AT NO TIME DID I ADRESS YOU IN HIS THREAD
#3 YOU CAME INTO MY THREAD HERE AND INSULTED ME .....A 2nd time ( Post #10 in this thread )
#4 CASHIN WAS NEVER TOLD TO STOP POSTING IN MY THREADS.......YOU, AND YOU ALONE WERE

If you continue to come into my threads i will have you reported. I am here to wager on Footie, post my wagers, and discuss with like minded posters, the beautiful game. I am getting tired of your little Biitch fits.

JUST STAY OUT OF MY THREADS