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  • olemissbydamn
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-27-12
    • 838

    #1
    Gold Cup Semifinal Matches
    We've got some very interesting matchups on the books tomorrow.

    USA vs. Honduras

    USA has been hotter than the desert this tournament. We saw what their A team can do last game, despite it being a severely lesser opponent. Jurgen has said he wants to score as many goals as possible, but Honduras has a stingy defense and plays the counter, which has not been a USA strength in defense. Remember this is a Honduras team that only lost by a goal in WCQ to the USA A team. Will the Americans ride the momentum wave into the finals with another statement win?

    Mexico vs. Panama

    Probably one of the more intense matches we've seen in the Gold Cup. Chepo and El Tri want nothing more than to shut Panama up after they came out firing first game of the group beating Mexico 2-1. Mexico has not been a scoring force throughout this tournament, beating lowly T&T by a mere goal late in the game. Will Panama do the extremely unlikely, two upsets of Mexico in the same tournament? Mexico will be out for blood this game, but is that motivation enough to surpass a Panama side that has looked very solid the entire tournament?

    Well boys, I think we have a lot to discuss here. I have been doing research today and will continue doing more tomorrow. I like Pinnacle's idea of parlaying USA/Mexico ML's together to get the juice down, but at the same time it's possible in my mind that Mexico/Panama may need some more time past regulation to sort out their differences (draw). What are y'alls thoughts on this?
  • hundo
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-14-13
    • 561

    #2
    I just hope your Gold Cup hot streak continues!
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    • Remedy
      SBR High Roller
      • 07-01-13
      • 192

      #3
      Great thread ole I am so looking forward to these matches. I have backed USA since game one and will most likely be heavy on them tomorrow.

      I feel that their goal scoring will continue although Honduras does defend well. USA is well coached and the way they are playing I think they can break any defense. They can attack from the flankes and open it up a bit unlike Costa Rica who just attacked at the center and got clogged up by Honduras.

      Playing on home turf helps as well. Lets go USA.

      Mexico has been confusing not saying they have played bad just not the Mexico we expect. Not much creativity and their lack of passion is surprising. Panama is in really good form, but I'm with you I find it hard to believe Mexico losses twice to panama in the same tourney.

      All and all should be fun to watch and I really feel this I'd USA's cup to lose
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      • theballsflop
        SBR MVP
        • 06-22-13
        • 1483

        #4
        Whatever Ole does, I follow
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        • olemissbydamn
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 09-27-12
          • 838

          #5
          Looks like the public is pounding the draw. Mexico is at even now and the draw is dropping. Mexico PK would be the best option in my opinion if it should get to that. Mexico certainly created some chances in their first matchup with the Panamanians and have grown as a more cohesive unit but the fact they could only net one late goal against T&T scares me a bit.

          One thing to remember, someone mentioned USA goal scoring with their offense, but you have to flash back to the Costa Rica game not more than a week ago where USA only put up one goal off that counter attack. I know, not the complete "A" team for the Gold Cup squad, but not TOO big of a difference. The defensive subs that Jurgen made have clearly helped the US and I think they will be able to contain better than they did in those initial group stage matches. In my mind there is no doubt that the USA will win this game, but the over under is tricky as well as the 1.5 goal spread. I usually have more clarity on these things in the mornings when I am not over thinking every different possibility.
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          • swordsandtequila
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-23-12
            • 9757

            #6
            Honduras (Gold-Cup)/USA (Gold-Cup) Over 2½ -144 (2u)
            USA (Gold-Cup) -1½ -101 (1u)
            USA (Gold-Cup) Over 2 -127 (2u)


            Keep it simple. Honduras missing a few key players, US in much better form. First goal opens the game up. Don't see Klinsmann sitting on 1 goal. Then again, I've been wrong before.
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            • Semper Fidelis
              SBR MVP
              • 09-22-11
              • 1999

              #7
              Really love US tomorrow, but then again what American isn't biased as hell? Lol All over the ML in a few parlays, may take the spread and sprinkle a little on the total, we'll see. I agree with you about the Mexico match-initially I leaned Mexico, surely they'll get revenge from earlier-but all this crazy line movement scares the hell out of me. Think I may just take Mexico PK in that one and just eat the juice. I feel very strongly they won't lose, just don't know if I have enough faith they can win it in 90 mins + injury time. Think I'll just sleep on it and look at it again tomorrow with a clear head!
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              • frugalgambler
                SBR MVP
                • 05-30-13
                • 3418

                #8
                Just wanted to point out that Honduras defense looked great last game, but that was against the impotent Costa Rica, a team that barely managed to score one goal to Belize. I think a scenario in which USA scores 3-4 goals is quite likely, especially if the first goal comes within the first half hour. El Salvador did score twice against Honduras. Also, it is probably likely that USA will allow a goal again. So the over looks good. I might also put a small bet on USA o3.5 or something like that.

                Now, for the second game. I think Panama will not lose and might win outright. They looked great compared to Mexico, which really struggled to hold the ball and create good offensive chances. Panama USA will be a fun final. Panama +0.5 is the bet.
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                • olemissbydamn
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 09-27-12
                  • 838

                  #9
                  Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                  Honduras (Gold-Cup)/USA (Gold-Cup) Over 2½ -144 (2u)
                  USA (Gold-Cup) -1½ -101 (1u)
                  USA (Gold-Cup) Over 2 -127 (2u)


                  Keep it simple. Honduras missing a few key players, US in much better form. First goal opens the game up. Don't see Klinsmann sitting on 1 goal. Then again, I've been wrong before.
                  Yeah the more I think about it the more I like the over. I definitely love the moneyline, and may even go with the spread.

                  EDIT: However, if the moneyline should reach 3.5, which it wont as it dropped from 3 to 2.5 , I'd probably take the under. That's why I am even questioning taking over 2.5, but we'll see. Like I said, I think better in the mornings.
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                  • olemissbydamn
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 09-27-12
                    • 838

                    #10
                    Originally posted by frugalgambler
                    El Salvador did score twice against Honduras.
                    What? Honduras beat El Salvador 1-0

                    What I think you meant to say is that Trinidad & Tobago scored 2 on them. Honduras was resting players and T&T had nothing to lose so they came out firing. I'm not sure that's an accurate measure of their defense, but A or B team aside it certainly exploits some holes in their defense.
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                    • frugalgambler
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-30-13
                      • 3418

                      #11
                      Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                      What? Honduras beat El Salvador 1-0

                      What I think you meant to say is that Trinidad & Tobago scored 2 on them. Honduras was resting players and T&T had nothing to lose so they came out firing. I'm not sure that's an accurate measure of their defense, but A or B team aside it certainly exploits some holes in their defense.
                      Yeah, you are right. Still, now that I recall more of those games. Haiti blew like 3-4 great opportunities to score. And Honduras was again lucky to win against El Salvador. Now, I am not sure that we will see a goalfest from team USA again tomorrow. All I am saying is that Costa Rica's attack really really sucked.
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                      • theballsflop
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-22-13
                        • 1483

                        #12
                        Knock-out round robins are typically vastly different from the group stages. I expect to see tight, cagey affairs in both matches, under for both will be my choice.
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                        • swordsandtequila
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-23-12
                          • 9757

                          #13
                          Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                          Honduras (Gold-Cup)/USA (Gold-Cup) Over 2½ -144 (2u)
                          USA (Gold-Cup) -1½ -101 (1u)
                          USA (Gold-Cup) Over 2 -127 (2u)


                          Keep it simple. Honduras missing a few key players, US in much better form. First goal opens the game up. Don't see Klinsmann sitting on 1 goal. Then again, I've been wrong before.
                          As Randy Moss once said, "Straight cash homie" Added USA -1 (5u, a big bet for me) and game over 3.5 +185 (2u) so keep scoring bitches! Make up for the beating I took on friendlies this morning .
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                          • swordsandtequila
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-23-12
                            • 9757

                            #14
                            Originally Posted by swordsandtequila
                            Honduras (Gold-Cup)/USA (Gold-Cup) Over 2½ -144 (2u)
                            USA (Gold-Cup) -1½ -101 (1u)
                            USA (Gold-Cup) Over 2 -127 (2u)

                            Keep it simple. Honduras missing a few key players, US in much better form. First goal opens the game up. Don't see Klinsmann sitting on 1 goal. Then again, I've been wrong before.
                            Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                            As Randy Moss once said, "Straight cash homie" Added USA -1 (5u, a big bet for me) and game over 3.5 +185 (2u) so keep scoring bitches! Make up for the beating I took on friendlies this morning .
                            Gimme back my jack, bookies!


                            And send Heather Mitts over to cap off a nice evening!
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                            • olemissbydamn
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-27-12
                              • 838

                              #15
                              Congrats on the win. I also hit a straight bet USA ML, but have them in a parlay with Mexico. Don't screw me, El Tri!
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                              • olemissbydamn
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-27-12
                                • 838

                                #16
                                Hedged with the chance of still winning over half a unit, see my thread for explanation if anyone cares. I'm going to use this thread to vent / cheer on El Tri.
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                                • olemissbydamn
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-27-12
                                  • 838

                                  #17
                                  This is why he hedge, this is why we hedge, Mexico sucks major ass, this is why we hedge.
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                                  • Remedy
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-01-13
                                    • 192

                                    #18
                                    Mexico maybe in trouble unreal
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                                    • camelbreath$
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-04-10
                                      • 3267

                                      #19
                                      MEXICO sucks giant dong
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                                      • Remedy
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 07-01-13
                                        • 192

                                        #20
                                        Lost $$ on them in confed cup now twice in gold cup never again Mexico u suck
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                                        • Remedy
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 07-01-13
                                          • 192

                                          #21
                                          Nice goal game on great cross and finish
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                                          • olemissbydamn
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-27-12
                                            • 838

                                            #22
                                            Goal El Tri! Fabian should be put on a pedestal by the B team players he's the only one there that looks like he gives a shit this entire tournament.
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                                            • Remedy
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 07-01-13
                                              • 192

                                              #23
                                              Agree no passion from Mexico #10 stands out though clearly their best and most dangerous player
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                                              • olemissbydamn
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 09-27-12
                                                • 838

                                                #24
                                                Mexico looking much better after getting that goal and being able to settle in. Before it there are no creativity in the final third and with this team with less individually skilled players you need creative combination play to break down a solid Panama defense.
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                                                • Remedy
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 07-01-13
                                                  • 192

                                                  #25
                                                  Confidence is growing for Mexico and the are starting to move forward well this will be interesting
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                                                  • frugalgambler
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-30-13
                                                    • 3418

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Remedy
                                                    Confidence is growing for Mexico and the are starting to move forward well this will be interesting
                                                    Fock Mexico. Go Panama !
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                                                    • olemissbydamn
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 09-27-12
                                                      • 838

                                                      #27
                                                      Mexico looking how they did to start the game, if they're not careful they'll be chasing again.

                                                      @Frugal, BOL. IF Panama wins I finish even, but if no draw/Mexico wins I still get a little bit, smart hedging on my part
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                                                      • the tross
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 02-14-13
                                                        • 450

                                                        #28
                                                        could it be possible that no more goals will be scored?. Ive got the drw full time and 1-1 correct score...
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                                                        • olemissbydamn
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 09-27-12
                                                          • 838

                                                          #29
                                                          Jimenez is crap, great chance to at least get a shot on target there completely blown. Player was already in the air to, have some composure and bring it down.
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                                                          • olemissbydamn
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 09-27-12
                                                            • 838

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by the tross
                                                            could it be possible that no more goals will be scored?. Ive got the drw full time and 1-1 correct score...
                                                            Very possible, but the tale will tell itself once legs start to get tired around the 70th minute. Both teams have shown they can be sloppy.
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                                                            • olemissbydamn
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 09-27-12
                                                              • 838

                                                              #31
                                                              Didn't need the 70th minute I suppose. Great goal by Panama there.
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                                                              • Remedy
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 07-01-13
                                                                • 192

                                                                #32
                                                                What a delivery no chance Mexico lazy
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                                                                • olemissbydamn
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-27-12
                                                                  • 838

                                                                  #33
                                                                  No way Mexico nets two before the game is out to get the win, Panama -.5 is looking mighty fine for my hedge and anyone else who took it. Better for the USA to play Panama in my opinion anyway -- will be pounding USA.
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                                                                  • the tross
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 02-14-13
                                                                    • 450

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                                                                    Very possible, but the tale will tell itself once legs start to get tired around the 70th minute. Both teams have shown they can be sloppy.
                                                                    one dead and one alive but in all honesty, id love to mexico go home with a Pan win. Man those mex fuckkkers have cost me...
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                                                                    • the tross
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 02-14-13
                                                                      • 450

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by olemissbydamn
                                                                      No way Mexico nets two before the game is out to get the win, Panama -.5 is looking mighty fine for my hedge and anyone else who took it. Better for the USA to play Panama in my opinion anyway -- will be pounding USA.
                                                                      i'll be tailing you on USA for sure.
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