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  • BHS
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    #1
    Dec 4th 5th Champions League
    What are the thoughts?

    I have great 2 matches on my mind. When are bookies announce the lines?
  • pellumb341
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    • 11-25-11
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    #2
    marathonbet has them
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    • BHS
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      • 05-15-12
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      #3
      What are the lines for Celtic win against Spartak Moscow and Shaktar - Juventus draw?
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      • bolek
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        • 09-27-12
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        #4
        Celtic -175
        Draw juve -120
        Bet365
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        • andy888888
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          • 09-27-12
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          #5
          I've been thinking Juve draw since Juve beat chelsea. I know Juve will go for the win as they always do, the shakhtar manager said when the group stage was drawn that they and Juve will qualify from the group, read into it what you will but i wonder if he will tell his players to go a little easy on Juve. of course without the suspended Marchisio complicates matters slightly, but i have no doubt Pogba will put in a shift in his place.

          on the flip side apparently abramovic is friends with the owners of shakhtar, but im keeping my fingers crossed that nordsjaelland cause an upset and prevent chelsea from winning a team that has no form, and possibly no hunger and with news of mutiny in the benitez camp already i would probably stay away from betting on this game too, especially after their shock defeat to west ham
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          • BHS
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            #6
            Originally posted by andy888888
            I know Juve will go for the win as they always do
            Who says Juve would go for win?

            There's too much to lose at the stake.
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            • andy888888
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              • 09-27-12
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              #7
              Originally posted by BHS
              Who says Juve would go for win?

              There's too much to lose at the stake.
              This is Juve we're talking about here, since when did they ever go into a game with the intention to draw? thats what chelsh*t thought against us, and they got raped.
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              • bolek
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                • 09-27-12
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                #8
                I might stay away since the whole public will focus on one game and let the others slip away.
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                • BHS
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by andy888888
                  This is Juve we're talking about here, since when did they ever go into a game with the intention to draw? thats what chelsh*t thought against us, and they got raped.
                  I don't think you know much about Juve.

                  Juventus tied more than half of the matches in Italy last season. They had 15 draws.

                  Let's take a look at Group E in Champions League.

                  Who have most draws in Group E? That's right. Juve with 3 draws, all the other teams had only 1 draw.

                  Are you still saying that Juve's intention will not be on draw since they are so professional getting draws all the time?
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                  • andy888888
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BHS
                    I don't think you know much about Juve.

                    Juventus tied more than half of the matches in Italy last season. They had 15 draws.

                    Let's take a look at Group E in Champions League.

                    Who have most draws in Group E? That's right. Juve with 3 draws, all the other teams had only 1 draw.

                    Are you still saying that Juve's intention will not be on draw since they are so professional getting draws all the time?
                    that doesn't mean Juve were playing for the draw, they clearly lack a 20+ goal a season striker and at no point did they ever look like they would sit back on a point. Do you seriously think someone like Antonio Conte would tell his players to go get the draw and sit back on it? f*ck have you ever seen Conte's Juve sit back on a draw? and you think i don't know much about Juve?
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                    • BHS
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                      #11
                      Haha, of course Conte would tell all the players defend and get a draw. He loves to fix matches. That's why he is not your coach right now. I don't see him on the bench, do you see him? Juventus is the biggest match-fixer team in the world, so I have no doubt that they will fix this match with Shaktar too.

                      Plus, Juve can't have Italian refs at CL. That's a big minus for Juve as well.

                      I've seen Conte sit back and got a draw for 15 times in Italy last year by the way. Go read Tuttosport and see what everyone predicts here in Italia. This is a draw match.
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                      • face
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                        • 01-31-11
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                        #12
                        draw -107
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                        • Ajax1489
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                          • 11-28-12
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                          #13
                          Here are a few I like. You have to be careful picking for the last round of the group stages. Some teams will play out of their heads to qualify while others won't care because they are already in or out.

                          Celtic -180 :Playing at Paradise on a European night is always tricky for away sides. Ask Barcelona a few weeks ago. A win will put them in.
                          Ajax +1.5 :This would usually be where I go with Real Madrid. But Ajax is in competition with Man City for the Europa and Ajax have played reasonably well on the road in the league so far. I think it will be a hard match for Madrid.
                          AC Milan +0.5 :Milan are in, but Zenit need that third place. However, this is at the San Siro and Milan have been playing very well of late. Zenit has been quite shocking for all of their talent they have. I don't expect a Milan loss. This is my safest pick of the bunch.
                          Montpellier/Schalke Draw +250 :Top side against bottom here. Both are in or out. Schalke won't throw out their best team, but will give Montpellier enough competition for some type of draw.
                          Lille +200 :Why not. They aren't a bad side and I like them to get 3 points at home against the leaders.
                          Barca -1 :Already going on, but I expect Barca to win by more than 1 goal every game they play, no matter who they throw out on the pitch.
                          Galatasaray +120 :I like this one a lot. They are playing against bottom and need some type of point against Braga. Galatasaray are level on points with Cluj. Cluj will play against a second rate Man United team at Old Trafford. Knowing this I would expect Galatasaray to go all out for the win and move on to the next round.
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                          • BHS
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ajax1489
                            Galatasaray +120 :I like this one a lot. They are playing against bottom and need some type of point against Braga. Galatasaray are level on points with Cluj. Cluj will play against a second rate Man United team at Old Trafford. Knowing this I would expect Galatasaray to go all out for the win and move on to the next round.
                            This is tricky little bit but this one is on my mind as well.

                            Galatasaray have 7 points, just like 3rd Cluj but Galatasaray have advantage over them.

                            If Galatasaray beat Braga (and Braga lost both their home games) they will qualify without caring other results. But goalkeeper Muslera might not be able play because he was injured on Friday.
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                            • Kira
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                              • 10-22-12
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by andy888888
                              I've been thinking Juve draw since Juve beat chelsea. I know Juve will go for the win as they always do, the shakhtar manager said when the group stage was drawn that they and Juve will qualify from the group, read into it what you will but i wonder if he will tell his players to go a little easy on Juve. of course without the suspended Marchisio complicates matters slightly, but i have no doubt Pogba will put in a shift in his place.

                              on the flip side apparently abramovic is friends with the owners of shakhtar, but im keeping my fingers crossed that nordsjaelland cause an upset and prevent chelsea from winning a team that has no form, and possibly no hunger and with news of mutiny in the benitez camp already i would probably stay away from betting on this game too, especially after their shock defeat to west ham
                              from my point of view, Juve wont just go for a 'fixed draw'

                              based on the last derby match against Torino, Conte decided to rest some key players, they will probably go for a win vs shaktar, although nobody knows whether shakhtar will play it easy / not
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                              • PuckIt
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by face
                                draw -107
                                ya, wtf?
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                                • BHS
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Kira
                                  from my point of view, Juve wont just go for a 'fixed draw'

                                  based on the last derby match against Torino, Conte decided to rest some key players, they will probably go for a win vs shaktar, although nobody knows whether shakhtar will play it easy / not
                                  Who did Conte rest during Torino match? %90 of their regulars played.
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                                  • kosti
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                                    • 08-22-12
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                                    #18
                                    I thought this was a typo when reading thread, but just checked 365...how on earth can there be a -125 for a draw?!?!?!? Has anyone ever seen anything like it?
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                                    • Ajax1489
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                                      • 11-28-12
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by kosti
                                      I thought this was a typo when reading thread, but just checked 365...how on earth can there be a -125 for a draw?!?!?!? Has anyone ever seen anything like it?
                                      Lowest I have ever seen is +200. I don't get that at all.
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                                      • NittanyLionsFan
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                                        • 10-26-10
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                                        #20
                                        Yes, I've seen in plenty of times. That play is honestly probably +EV too. Not sure how you don't understand it. Do you even watch the sport you're wagering on? Do you follow the teams?

                                        Morons.
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                                        • diogone
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                                          • 06-13-12
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                                          #21
                                          on AJAX ML, ajax been fit the past games, last game won 3-1 against PSV, and they are playing for a place on EL. they are playing against a Real who's already qualified and no interest on this game. i see mourinho resting key players like ronaldo, xavi and di maria, sparing them for a though mach against valladolid for championship. mourinho cant lose any more points for championship, if he really wants to take this team to a tight league end. so i believe that hes not gonna give this game attention at all, and only think about a valladolid who has won tonight against sevilla at pizjuan.

                                          BOL
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                                          • Mase of Base
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                                            • 07-24-12
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by diogone
                                            on AJAX ML, ajax been fit the past games, last game won 3-1 against PSV, and they are playing for a place on EL. they are playing against a Real who's already qualified and no interest on this game. i see mourinho resting key players like ronaldo, xavi and di maria, sparing them for a though mach against valladolid for championship. mourinho cant lose any more points for championship, if he really wants to take this team to a tight league end. so i believe that hes not gonna give this game attention at all, and only think about a valladolid who has won tonight against sevilla at pizjuan.

                                            BOL
                                            Alot of guys are getting a rest but this will still be a VERY good Real team, better than Ajax anyway.

                                            I'm reading Ronaldo and Benzema are going to start and think it will happen. Kaka, Modric and Callejon and then maybe another big name (Ozil or Khedeira) or maybe the other young guy Rodriguez. That combo is still deadly and better than most other clubs in world football. Defense will be missing plenty though with no Casillas, Abeloa, Ramos and probably Pepe (bench).

                                            At a guess:
                                            Adan
                                            Nacho..Varane..Carvalho..Coentrao
                                            Modric..Rodriguez/Khedeira/Ozil
                                            Callejon..Kaka..Ronaldo
                                            Benzema

                                            I'd wait till half an hour before kickoff to see the team but that's a big ask for Ajax to win at the Barnabeau, 3-0 last time here when the game didn't matter two seasons ago.
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                                            • BigBurk
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ajax1489

                                              Lowest I have ever seen is +200. I don't get that at all.
                                              I've seen it plenty of times. Mostly in Southern American leagues. Not so strange, knowing Juve needs a point, and Shakhtar does not have anything to play for.

                                              Originally posted by NittanyLionsFan
                                              Yes, I've seen in plenty of times. That play is honestly probably +EV too. Not sure how you don't understand it. Do you even watch the sport you're wagering on? Do you follow the teams?

                                              Morons.
                                              So true!

                                              Originally posted by diogone
                                              on AJAX ML, ajax been fit the past games, last game won 3-1 against PSV, and they are playing for a place on EL. they are playing against a Real who's already qualified and no interest on this game. i see mourinho resting key players like ronaldo, xavi and di maria, sparing them for a though mach against valladolid for championship. mourinho cant lose any more points for championship, if he really wants to take this team to a tight league end. so i believe that hes not gonna give this game attention at all, and only think about a valladolid who has won tonight against sevilla at pizjuan.

                                              BOL
                                              Not a good idea to take the Ajax ML tonight. They will not win. Guaranteed.
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                                              • diogone
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                                                #24
                                                things in rm headquarters are not so great, plenty of fighting within the club. mourinho has a lot to think about the next game, he cant drop anymore points, hes gonna put some rotation on the squad. RM is one of the hardest opponents u can have, but nothing is impossible, and the chance of getting to EL i think is a great boost on both "mister" and players ambitions. de boer said that they only depend on themselves to get to the EL, and gonna try to put what they know in the pitch. so, it might come in a victory for them. Last time RM played with a squad like that, they won alcoiano, only score 1st goal at 70min. Against ajax, things might be different.( hope so ). about the last year game, well completly different situation.... if u look, the ajax squad has only 3 players from that game. Nowadays, they are confident on their football game, their last game results aint so bad, and they have nothing to lose. If they try their hard, they might get a place on EL, if not well theyve tried. im only triggering bc's 10.5 is wayy not fare for this game. has i said, things in madrid aint going very well, mourinho is an inch of getting is ass out of there, the fans are pissed at him, some players aint happy with him, so i really think that the team has its mind on the next league game, so i think 9.5 % of ajax winning this game isnt fare.
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                                                • Vaughany
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BHS
                                                  I don't think you know much about Juve.

                                                  Juventus tied more than half of the matches in Italy last season. They had 15 draws.

                                                  Let's take a look at Group E in Champions League.

                                                  Who have most draws in Group E? That's right. Juve with 3 draws, all the other teams had only 1 draw.

                                                  Are you still saying that Juve's intention will not be on draw since they are so professional getting draws all the time?
                                                  Different style to last season, only drawn 2 games in league so far
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                                                  • Vaughany
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BHS
                                                    Haha, of course Conte would tell all the players defend and get a draw. He loves to fix matches. That's why he is not your coach right now. I don't see him on the bench, do you see him? Juventus is the biggest match-fixer team in the world, so I have no doubt that they will fix this match with Shaktar too.

                                                    Plus, Juve can't have Italian refs at CL. That's a big minus for Juve as well.

                                                    I've seen Conte sit back and got a draw for 15 times in Italy last year by the way. Go read Tuttosport and see what everyone predicts here in Italia. This is a draw match.
                                                    Actually quite the opposite, he is banned because somebody tried to get him to fix and he refused.
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                                                    • Vaughany
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by diogone
                                                      on AJAX ML, ajax been fit the past games, last game won 3-1 against PSV, and they are playing for a place on EL. they are playing against a Real who's already qualified and no interest on this game. i see mourinho resting key players like ronaldo, xavi and di maria, sparing them for a though mach against valladolid for championship. mourinho cant lose any more points for championship, if he really wants to take this team to a tight league end. so i believe that hes not gonna give this game attention at all, and only think about a valladolid who has won tonight against sevilla at pizjuan.

                                                      BOL
                                                      yeah Xavi def wont play for Real!
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                                                      • Mase of Base
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by diogone
                                                        things in rm headquarters are not so great, plenty of fighting within the club. mourinho has a lot to think about the next game, he cant drop anymore points, hes gonna put some rotation on the squad. RM is one of the hardest opponents u can have, but nothing is impossible, and the chance of getting to EL i think is a great boost on both "mister" and players ambitions. de boer said that they only depend on themselves to get to the EL, and gonna try to put what they know in the pitch. so, it might come in a victory for them. Last time RM played with a squad like that, they won alcoiano, only score 1st goal at 70min. Against ajax, things might be different.( hope so ). about the last year game, well completly different situation.... if u look, the ajax squad has only 3 players from that game. Nowadays, they are confident on their football game, their last game results aint so bad, and they have nothing to lose. If they try their hard, they might get a place on EL, if not well theyve tried. im only triggering bc's 10.5 is wayy not fare for this game. has i said, things in madrid aint going very well, mourinho is an inch of getting is ass out of there, the fans are pissed at him, some players aint happy with him, so i really think that the team has its mind on the next league game, so i think 9.5 % of ajax winning this game isnt fare.
                                                        I hadn't actually checked the odds before I wrote that and after looking it isn't a bad bet for small stakes. I like Ajax to score here, they'll need at least two maybe three but hey anythings possible. I don't think Man City will want any part of the Europa league so at best they'll get a point in Germany but that would see Ajax through to Europa with a loss.
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                                                        • BigBurk
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                                                          #29
                                                          I'm on City +½ tonight. Not because I actually think they want a spot in the EL, but cause it means that if they don't cover at least my Ajax has made it to the EL (and yes, we do care about reaching it).
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                                                          • Bluedragon
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                                                            #30
                                                            Dortmund ML, Juve-Shak BTS
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                                                            • brett2346
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                                                              • 06-21-12
                                                              • 265

                                                              #31
                                                              I like Malaga today. Haven't been in the best form in La Liga and Anderlecht have the Europa league to play for, but I think these things will fuel them to show up at home and get the win.
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                                                              • RubberKettle
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                                                                • 12-28-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Madrid -1.5 v Ajax
                                                                Like Madrid at home to beat this team 3-0 or 3-1. Real are too strong even if they rest some players. Lots of pressure on Mou too, he cannot allow for a subpar performance. Ronaldo, Benzema, Kaka all start

                                                                Olympiakos v Arsenal Under 2.5
                                                                Arsenal horrible last few games. Tonight they turn to Chamakh for the goals

                                                                Small bets tonight boys, none of these games mean anything in terms of qualification for the round of 16.
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                                                                • DHB
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                                                                  • 04-14-11
                                                                  • 1538

                                                                  #33
                                                                  real madrid-1.5
                                                                  schalke-0.5
                                                                  porto+0.5
                                                                  ac milan-0
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                                                                  • andy888888
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                                                                    • 09-27-12
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by BHS
                                                                    I don't think you know much about Juve.

                                                                    Juventus tied more than half of the matches in Italy last season. They had 15 draws.

                                                                    Let's take a look at Group E in Champions League.

                                                                    Who have most draws in Group E? That's right. Juve with 3 draws, all the other teams had only 1 draw.

                                                                    Are you still saying that Juve's intention will not be on draw since they are so professional getting draws all the time?

                                                                    OH LOOOOOOOOOOOOOLZ AT THIS BULLCRAP! JUVENTUS 1-0 shakhtar BIATCH
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                                                                    • BHS
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                                                                      • 05-15-12
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by andy888888
                                                                      OH LOOOOOOOOOOOOOLZ AT THIS BULLCRAP! JUVENTUS 1-0 shakhtar BIATCH
                                                                      With offside goal + own goal bitch.

                                                                      But you like winning with offside goals all the time, just like when you beat Catania. Their goal was legit, not given. You scored offside goal and ref counted it.

                                                                      It's typical Juve. With refs
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