Turner System 1/12

Ericg320 · 01-11-12, 11:46 PM

Thanks

king3chaz · 01-11-12, 11:51 PM

Yeah, I can't even wager on any NBA game right now. But check out the lines, they are accurate. I hope they will open up for me before I go to bed. GL Johnny.

king3chaz · 01-11-12, 11:53 PM

Actually, my Winnipeg line is at +125...looks like it's dropping

kolonizator · 01-12-12, 12:03 AM

Thanks J

PLF · 01-12-12, 02:08 AM

Thanks Jonny. Yeah I don't have the totals available for NBA right now either but the NHL stuff is up.

ks1137en · 01-12-12, 02:10 AM

I do wonder where they see the o/u for teams that play the night before (and I believe that's all built in the system, to play the night before). That's what keeps them from being available on overnight for NBA. Oh well its always close - I did push tonight with Raptors under. And what a heart break for my Golden Eagles. I drove all the way to memphis to watch us miss a 3 at the buzzer...

RibbedTrojan · 01-12-12, 02:10 AM

Thanks sir.

checo51 · 01-12-12, 04:24 AM

got both NBA lines, thanks for the picks!

Duby · 01-12-12, 05:51 AM

Char/Atl Under 184 (-115)
NY/Memph Under 194 (-117)

Winnipeg +137
Tampa Bay -1.5 +191

Those are lines available at Pinny this morning as we speak for the non-believers

GL

chrisdinho · 01-12-12, 06:59 AM

Tampa Bay also PL and ML? What should we try to do today?

Ryanw3ball · 01-12-12, 08:15 AM

5dimes already has both lines down to 182.5 and 192.5

Maleku · 01-12-12, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by chrisdinho

Tampa Bay also PL and ML? What should we try to do today?

Dyntastic and I are starting out Double Dip strategy on the PL. Not sure how he is doing it but I am putting the same amount on the ML as the PL.

Our experiment with flat betting and unit betting should be the same result today.

We should both be up +9 this morning this last nights sweep!

For those not able to get the lines, their membership fee is very cheap... you should just sign up for a month. They Tweet as soon as their picks are up. As soon as I get the Tweet I fire up my laptop and get the lines no problem.

Not touting for them... just saying it is $1.66 per day - lol

king3chaz · 01-12-12, 08:55 AM

-160 is some heavy juice. I might just stick with the puck line for this play

JoeVol · 01-12-12, 09:57 AM

Since I brought up this idea of betting both PL and ML I feel that I should share the results so far. I began this experiment on 12-31 and there have been 12 games to qualify up to now. There are no doubt several ways of doing it with varying amounts of risk. Here's how I have approached it. I have made an average bet of 3.25 units per PL play and an additional 2 units per ML play. Average juice per ML play has been -156. PL record so far 7-5 winning 45.79 units and losing 16 for a net gain of 29.79 units. ML record so far 9-3 winning 18 units and losing 8.3 for a net gain of an additional 9.7 units. The winning percentage of ML bets so far is in line with what I calculated going back to the beginning of the season before I decided to try this. Hope this trend continues as I understand that the sample size is not overwhelming but there were 36 plays prior to 12-31. Those 36 plays won 29 and lost 7 on the ML which does mirror the current results. We'll see what happens going forward, but I'm going to keep at this until it proves differently. If it does go south can always play PL only. Don't even have to hit 50% of those to profit. Hope this helps and GLTA.

Maleku · 01-12-12, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by JoeVol

Since I brought up this idea of betting both PL and ML I feel that I should share the results so far. I began this experiment on 12-31 and there have been 12 games to qualify up to now. There are no doubt several ways of doing it with varying amounts of risk. Here's how I have approached it. I have made an average bet of 3.25 units per PL play and an additional 2 units per ML play. Average juice per ML play has been -156. PL record so far 7-5 winning 45.79 units and losing 16 for a net gain of 29.79 units. ML record so far 9-3 winning 18 units and losing 8.3 for a net gain of an additional 9.7 units. The winning percentage of ML bets so far is in line with what I calculated going back to the beginning of the season before I decided to try this. Hope this trend continues as I understand that the sample size is not overwhelming but there were 36 plays prior to 12-31. Those 36 plays won 29 and lost 7 on the ML which does mirror the current results. We'll see what happens going forward, but I'm going to keep at this until it proves differently. If it does go south can always play PL only. Don't even have to hit 50% of those to profit. Hope this helps and GLTA.

Solid info Joe... thanks! I think being that this is Joe's idea and he has tracked it the longest, we should allow him to keep track and report back when he sees fit. I am going to follow along with Joe silently in the back ground.

king3chaz · 01-12-12, 10:35 AM

Nice results! Looks like I would be losing money if I don't play the ML as well as the PL. Lets give it a shot. Good luck to us

king3chaz · 01-12-12, 10:38 AM

LOL. David Chan is on Tampa Bay ML. Looks like I am playing it for sure now.

golfingguy · 01-12-12, 10:39 AM

I am really intrigued by these guys....where did these guys come from and how do they come up with their picks....I started following yesterday w good results...can u guys shed some light as their website is pretty plain

king3chaz · 01-12-12, 10:45 AM

Nobody knows where they came from. We can't confirm their 365 day record either. All we know is they are 38-29 (55.9%) with a bunch of +PL NHL plays for a hefty profit. Solid so far.

JoeVol · 01-12-12, 10:48 AM

Just thinking about a post from yesterday and I don't remember who right now but he or she was suggesting a parlay as an alternative bet. At first I didn't think too much of the idea because obviously you have to win multiple bets to win one. I think they had played a 4 teamer. Now that's too much for me but I got to thinking about it and here is what you could do: To offset the juice of the NHL ML play (-156 average in my test so far) you could parlay the ML bet with another ML bet from any other sport, say a college BB game with a ML of -350 to -400. That bet coupled with a -150 to -160 hockey ML would yield a win of slightly over 1.000. A BB bet in that range is equivalent to a favorite of about 7-8 points. If you find such a bet that you feel really comfortable with this is an alternative to the ML juice. Just my 2 cents. GL

DynTastic · 01-12-12, 10:55 AM

Not really. They pick winners? lol I don;t know much about them besides that and they got my money and have made it worth every penny.

Yep, all in on the ML/PL plays. I'm flat on each. Joe, great research and numbers, you make a strong case. Let's hope it all works out well. I got a good feeling about this.

king3chaz · 01-12-12, 11:09 AM

I already locked in the PL and ML. I think I would rather risk -160 on one play than try to parlay with another game. Even a ML favorite in CBB would be a little riskier, I think. I haven't messed with parlays in years because I never could profit from them in the long run. I parlayed everything trying to figure out a way to profit long term, and I could never win consistently. Let me know if you have a play or two to start tracking.

Ryanw3ball · 01-12-12, 12:02 PM

Like most everyone here, I had never heard of these guys until recently. I, like everyone else, am interested to see how this group does long term. I rolled with the plays yesterday and I have locked the plays in for today... Good Luck to everyone!!

DynTastic · 01-12-12, 12:30 PM

My man. Welcome to the party or the funeral, whatever comes first. We're not sure which yet, but it's gonna be fun either way.

55.9% L67 plays. I donno, I'll take it so far.

Ryanw3ball · 01-12-12, 12:34 PM

Thanks for the welcome. I am brand new to this site and forum... I love what I have read and seen so far. Looks to be a great place to be.

golfingguy · 01-12-12, 01:36 PM

Its pretty hilarious that we are all on board with a group we know nothing about...it just goes to show how pathetic our other options are. Let's hope for a great ride

JoeVol · 01-12-12, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by king3chaz

I already locked in the PL and ML. I think I would rather risk -160 on one play than try to parlay with another game. Even a ML favorite in CBB would be a little riskier, I think. I haven't messed with parlays in years because I never could profit from them in the long run. I parlayed everything trying to figure out a way to profit long term, and I could never win consistently. Let me know if you have a play or two to start tracking.

I am in no way suggesting that my idea is the way to go. To the contrary, I generally don't like parlays either. Just saying if you had another game that you were very confident in and the juice on the hockey ML was more than you want to play putting them together is an alternative. For me it would have to be something I felt 99% sure about. Then again, this is gambling so how can you be sure about anything.

DynTastic · 01-12-12, 01:48 PM

I'd take picks from your cat if Snuggles won more then she lost. What do we care where they came from?

Tim Tebow told me to play Turner Systems. TEEEEEEEBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW WW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maleku · 01-12-12, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by DynTastic

I'd take picks from your cat if Snuggles won more then she lost. What do we care where they came from?

Tim Tebow told me to play Turner Systems. TEEEEEEEBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW WW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DynTastic · 01-12-12, 03:49 PM

I can only assume you Photoshopped his halo out of the picture.

hahah I love it man. Good stuff.

Maleku · 01-12-12, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by DynTastic

I can only assume you Photoshopped his halo out of the picture.

hahah I love it man. Good stuff.

Haha. Let's get another sweep tonight DynTastic!

chrisdinho · 01-12-12, 04:30 PM

I will try to do the same! Same amount on his hockey plays - lets go

PLF · 01-12-12, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by JoeVol

Just thinking about a post from yesterday and I don't remember who right now but he or she was suggesting a parlay as an alternative bet. At first I didn't think too much of the idea because obviously you have to win multiple bets to win one. I think they had played a 4 teamer. Now that's too much for me but I got to thinking about it and here is what you could do: To offset the juice of the NHL ML play (-156 average in my test so far) you could parlay the ML bet with another ML bet from any other sport, say a college BB game with a ML of -350 to -400. That bet coupled with a -150 to -160 hockey ML would yield a win of slightly over 1.000. A BB bet in that range is equivalent to a favorite of about 7-8 points. If you find such a bet that you feel really comfortable with this is an alternative to the ML juice. Just my 2 cents. GL

It's a He and it was me.

Yeah this is hardly a perfect method (as it's a form of hedging but not fully and you're also risking other matches now) but yeah I usually place 5-10 single bets every day depending on how many games I think have value in them and 1 parlay.

I like ML parlays because it aligns your interests with those of the team (Unlike spreads in NBA for example) and because of the 'fun' factor too. We all know that to make money you have to be disciplined and practice good money management, etc. and that's completely correct and what I do.

But I also like the idea that for ONE play a day, I allow myself to be a little more outrageous, a little more daring and take a chance and reap big. Sometimes as much profit as all your other wins from single bets that day and of course when you lose, you're only down a unit or two. So yeah I recently did that with a 4-team parlay (usually I do 2 or 3 and never more than 4 and that's when I'm really sure of outcomes like last time) which included Turner's suggestion on Islanders home win against red wings and got rewarded by risking a mere $6 and walking away with $55. It all depends on your risk aversion/loving factor. For me, discipline and money management and being smart about gambling comes first but taking a chance here and there where you see value is also important.

But yeah anyway, like you were saying, this is of course not a very safe thing to do when doing it with the ML of Turner's puckline bets because even if you match it up with only one other game, that one might screw you up.

Tonight though for example I put $15 on the puckline bet for Tampa but also made a $15 parlay including ML bets on Tampa (as we discussed) but also LA Kings and Blackhawks who are both at home and in my opinion should get the job done against Dallas and Minneosota.

Let's see how it goes. BoL everyone!

This thread has turned into my fav because like rest of you have already mentioned, suddenly it seems we have a lot of intelligent folks gathered up in one place where as many other threads are unfortunately filled with dumb, whining dickheads.

JoeVol · 01-12-12, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by PLF

It's a He and it was me.

Yeah this is hardly a perfect method (as it's a form of hedging but not fully and you're also risking other matches now) but yeah I usually place 5-10 single bets every day depending on how many games I think have value in them and 1 parlay.

I like ML parlays because it aligns your interests with those of the team (Unlike spreads in NBA for example) and because of the 'fun' factor too. We all know that to make money you have to be disciplined and practice good money management, etc. and that's completely correct and what I do.

But I also like the idea that for ONE play a day, I allow myself to be a little more outrageous, a little more daring and take a chance and reap big. Sometimes as much profit as all your other wins from single bets that day and of course when you lose, you're only down a unit or two. So yeah I recently did that with a 4-team parlay (usually I do 2 or 3 and never more than 4 and that's when I'm really sure of outcomes like last time) which included Turner's suggestion on Islanders home win against red wings and got rewarded by risking a mere $6 and walking away with $55. It all depends on your risk aversion/loving factor. For me, discipline and money management and being smart about gambling comes first but taking a chance here and there where you see value is also important.

But yeah anyway, like you were saying, this is of course not a very safe thing to do when doing it with the ML of Turner's puckline bets because even if you match it up with only one other game, that one might screw you up.

Tonight though for example I put $15 on the puckline bet for Tampa but also made a $15 parlay including ML bets on Tampa (as we discussed) but also LA Kings and Blackhawks who are both at home and in my opinion should get the job done against Dallas and Minneosota.

Let's see how it goes. BoL everyone!

This thread has turned into my fav because like rest of you have already mentioned, suddenly it seems we have a lot of intelligent folks gathered up in one place where as many other threads are unfortunately filled with dumb, whining dickheads.

Nothing at all wrong with that. I guess I was trying to agree with you but maybe it didn't exactly come out that way. Good luck to us all and I agree this topic has been alot of fun to discuss without all the usual BS.