An affidavit released by the prosecutor who has charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder says he did not use a slur, however. The document filed Thursday did say Zimmerman "profiled" Martin. It did not elaborate.
Prosecutor's Affidavit: Zimmerman did NOT use racial slur
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Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
- 10-30-05
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#1Prosecutor's Affidavit: Zimmerman did NOT use racial slurTags: None -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
- 10-30-05
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#2Also... 2nd degree Murder charge is weak
State may lack evidence to convict George Zimmerman of murder
“There’s simply nothing in there that would justify second-degree murder,” Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz told MSNBC Thursday, April 12.Comment -
High3rEl3m3ntSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-28-10
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#3I half-way think that this is just an attempt to appease the public and show that they did everything in their power to try and convict the guy. However, it's going to make things worse.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
- 39995
#4An affidavit released by the prosecutor who has charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder says he did not use a slur, however. The document filed Thursday did say Zimmerman "profiled" Martin. It did not elaborate.
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world...t-1415809.htmlComment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#5
Will be really hard to find 12 objective jurors either way.Comment -
ngates815SBR Posting Legend
- 12-01-09
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#6Everyone know the 2nd degree murder charge is not going to stick.
This arrest was simply to shut the blacks up.
Now they are celebrating, because they think he's going to be in jail for life...too funny.Comment -
doublej95SBR Posting Legend
- 01-26-10
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#8people get murdered everyday. who fukking cares.Comment -
ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
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#9Who knows. I thought they could play it up a bit. 2nd degree might stick, especially since he is using an affirmative defense essentially switching the burden of proof to him.Comment -
jstblazeSBR Wise Guy
- 03-05-07
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#10he is not using an affirmative defense.Comment -
ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
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#11Based on the narrative that has played out since the event, I had assumed he is using self-defense based on the "stand your ground" law.
If he is, I would have to assume it is affirmative. However, I am not all that familiar with the case outside of maybe the week it originally happened, and some small clippings and water cooler talk here and there.
Actually, I have a hard time understanding how he can put a defense forward that isn't affirmative. He has not denied shooting the boy. What is going to claim besides self-defense? Privilege?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#12case going to get thrown out
Why?
Self defense law so loose in FloridaComment -
ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
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#13If it does get thrown out, it is most likely due to the Father/Mother pulling strings behind the scene. There is more than enough issue of fact that need be brought in front of a judge and jury. And, they better be careful on throwing this out - the state could appeal to the feds.Comment -
mynameismudSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-13-12
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#14Will be really hard to find 12 objective jurors either way.[/QUOTE]
talk about needing a change of venue. they are going to have to try him on the moon to get this guy a fair trial.Comment -
ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
- 9598
#15talk about needing a change of venue. they are going to have to try him on the moon to get this guy a fair trial.[/QUOTE]
Doubtful. I think most people would be surprised how oblivious our "peers" are to current events. Gets into the philisophical debate on whether these people who are so clueless to their surroundings should be allowed to serve as jurors and determine a mans fate. But, based on the tenets of the constitution, an oblivious peer works just fine.Comment -
mynameismudSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-13-12
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#16
i agree with you on how oblivious people can be, but my point was more on the fact that finding 12 people that havent already formed their opinion about the case is going to be very hard. its seems everyone has already chosen sides and have a bias attitiude towards this case.Comment -
sharpcatRestricted User
- 12-19-09
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#17If it does get thrown out, it is most likely due to the Father/Mother pulling strings behind the scene. There is more than enough issue of fact that need be brought in front of a judge and jury. And, they better be careful on throwing this out - the state could appeal to the feds.Comment -
ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
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#18i agree with you on how oblivious people can be, but my point was more on the fact that finding 12 people that havent already formed their opinion about the case is going to be very hard. its seems everyone has already chosen sides and have a bias attitiude towards this case
The internet is a bad place, as you get niche groups of people, and most have opinions on opinion before they even know what the story is about. And anyone you have talked to on the internet, via a forum on the topic, is obviously aware.
I am almost positive, we can poll the people currently online here, in America, on SBR - and easily find an oblivious jury.Comment -
ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
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#19There is no appeal to the federal level unless they charge him with a civil rights violation. If he is not found guilty of murder than he is an innocent man and double jeopardy laws will make it so that he can never be charged with murder or manslaughter for this case again.
Also, it being granted by a federal court is unlikely. But so is the case being thrown out. Too many issues of fact here.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-25-11
- 28918
#20This will be a long, drawn out trial, the State of Flordia is not charging him simply to appease the public, I can promise you that. This will not come cheap.
We had a prosecutor here charge a white pharmacist with first degree murder of a 15 year old black kid that went into his store with a loaded gun, pointed the gun at him and demanded drugs. Everyone here said "oh, theres NO way 12 jurors will find this white pharmacist guilty of FIRST degree murder after the black kid went into the store with a loaded gun, not here in the middle of the bible belt, not in NRA nation."
A short time later those same people are signing a petition for the govenor to pardon the pharmacist who is now in jail for life without the possibility of parole. The pharmacist also had one of the best criminal defense lawyers around here.
Don't be so sure of yourselves.Comment -
sharpcatRestricted User
- 12-19-09
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#21Breaking news, political news, and investigative news reporting from Raw Story's team of journalists and prize-winning investigators.
Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz on Thursday said that George Zimmerman, who was recently arrested second degree murder, would probably be acquitted of the crime because of a lack of evidence.
“Most affidavits of probable cause are very thin,” he said on MSNBC. “This is so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge. There’s simply nothing in there that would justify second degree murder.”
“The elements of the crime aren’t established. Basically what is in the affidavit is what’s in the public domain.”
On February 26, Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed African American teenager in the central Florida town of Sanford. He claimed the shooting was in self-defense.
Dershowitz said the affidavit was not just thin, it was also irresponsible and unethical because it excluded any evidence that favors the defendant.
“This case will not, if the evidence is no stronger than what appears in the probable cause affidavit, this case will result in an acquittal,” he said.
Jonathan Turley, a professor at George Washington University and a defense attorney, has also said it would be very difficult to convict Zimmerman.
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DeliciousSBR MVP
- 04-26-11
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#23oops already posted. nevermindComment
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