am i the only one out here who thinks our kids have more rights than there parents,when i was a kid and someone seen me do something wrong,they would put a foot in my ass and then tell my parents and they would give it to me twice as bad,now the kids call the police the minute we try to punish them,the way kids are these days,they would never last back when kicking a kid in the ass when they did something wrong was tolerable .a friend of mine was arrested cause he pushed his kid down because he hit his mother.so he called the police and they came out and arrested him but didnt arrest the kid cause the mother wouldnt say he hit her.and when he was asked if he pushed the kid and said no they wouldnt of done nothing but he said hell yeah and i would do it every time he raised a hand to his mother,but because she wouldnt say he did it they couldnt charge him with anything and guess what ,he got arrested for robbery and when he got to court the judge asked him why he did this and he said nobody cares what he did,so know hes blaming his parents for this,if i was his parents he being going to boot camp and learn respect
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Yeah kids can't be disciplined the old fashioned way. Could get arrested for spanking your kid. I remember back when I was in grade 2 or so we had the strap at school. Any teacher nowadays would lose their job and possibly end up in jail for striking a misbehaving kid.Comment -
If only we could discipline them like they used toComment -
Don't blame the system. The mother screwed her husband by protecting the kid.
Beating a child isn't the answer. There are many messed up people that were beat. It didn't help them.
I think it had more to do with good parenting. They just used the beatings to get the kids to listen.
Times have changed. My father lived with his grandmother. She was 4 foot something. When she spoke everyone listened. I remember being there as a child and my cousins were running around. She yelled down from upstairs and they all froze. She sent them outside. I didn't know what was wrong with them because I never seen that before. She said something and I listened. It was simple as that.
I was told that she would it my father with kindling if he acted up.
My father spanked me as a child. But it was because of lies is girlfriend made up (she watched my sister and I while he was at work) so what kind of message does that send? My sister and I moved in with my mother. She didn't beat us to get us to listen.
I don't beat my kids. I expect them to listen to me when I talk but I'm not going to hit them.
Some people are just bad parents. I was at a McDonalds in Florida years ago with my wife (girlfriend at the time) and we were sitting at a table that has another one beside it with a small wall and lattice between it. At the next table was a father and his young child. I'm guessing about 4 years old. Maybe 5. We are eating then the guy says if you do that again I'm beating you when you get home. The kid doesn't say anything keeps eating. The guy would say this over and over again every 30 seconds or so. Some kids are just bad but I didn't hear this kid make a noise other then talking. The guy keeps at the kid and we are getting pissed off. Now the kid asked if it was going to be a little beating or a big one. I can't remember what he answered but he threatened the kid two more times. I had enough at that point and told him that if he threatened that kid one more time I was going to drag him outside and beat him. He said the kid burped out loud and he didn't raise him like that. Oh so he is teaching him manners. I said I haven't heard a sound out of him and that I thought he was being good. Then I told him again if it happens again I'm talking you outside.
At that point I went back to eating. Then this big ass man walks up to be and said Thank you. There was no need of him doing that. We were not the only ones that could hear him and people were not impressed. A few minutes later the guy was being nice to the kid and wiping ketchup from his mouth for him.
Not once did I hear this guy tell this young child what he did wrong. So what is that going to help?
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yeah but we still need to be able to have some kind of discipline for the kids before they do something real bad and then it will be too late..Comment -
Wow you guys are worrying a lot over this issue. Kids are always a pain in the ass and always will be.Comment -
My son hit me I called the police and it has been delt with i would never let him get away with that.Comment -
You can do that without beating the living shit out of them. A % of the bad kids you see are a result of the parents. There are some just plan bad kids out there a beating isn't going to help them all.
My son was testing his limits. Sometimes when he didn't get his way he would slam his bedroom door. That pisses me off. I went in and told him that he was not to slam that door again. It wasn't his first time and I didn't feel I needed to tell him again. I said if that door is slammed one more time the door will come off. 15 minutes later after he was told no for something I hear a big slam. I grabbed my drill and went to his room. He begged me to leave the door but I wasn't repeating myself. The door came off.
My daughter woke up in the morning and when walking by she said your door is gone (she didn't know) and he said I KNOW. He wasn't impressed at all. I don't think he slammed that door more then once since he got it back. My wife thought I was the biggest asshole in the world but I wasn't playing. And I said it so if I didn't do it then he wouldn't believe shit I said.
Take a trip to Walmart. Find the bad kids and then try and tell me that in at least 75% of those cases that you don't think its the parents that need a beat down and not the kids.
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i see nothing wrong with discipline but not abuse,but when a kid raises his hand to his mother,he crossed the line,nobody should ever raise there hand to there parentsComment -
"kids today"
Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.Comment -
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I was beaten as a child, and while it makes me angry to see other kids get away with so much nowadays, I kind of have to disagree with the way I was raised. I really do think it screwed me up psychologically. Not only that, but it totally destroyed my relationship with my father. For many kids, I know it causes them to be more violent and aggressive in life, but for me it did the opposite. I'm more shy, timid, lack self-confidence, afraid to make eye-contact and used to flinch at sudden movements when just talking to people. If I ever have kids though, I want to beat the hell out of them.Comment -
Child fukks up= spanked In my household.. Once the cops or gov. pays for my bills, then they can tell me not to spank my child...Comment -
Learn parenting, you can be raised very well w/o being physically punished. Just need to have great communication w/ your kid and discipline through timeout. As old saying, you're a reflection of your parents.Comment -
Its just the way society has become, its all part of the generation that thinks the world owes them something,JMO. And by the way when I was in school not only were my parents allowed to beat my ass, so was the school system.
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parents are the problem here. you have to agree and stick together even if youre not together. i dont believe in beating a child but its nothing wrong with a controlled spanking or pop on the butt to get their attention. and with all of the things in the world today like tvs ipads its not hard for them to be distracted and not know itComment -
If you spank your child, it can't be totally out of control. When my kids were younger, I would make it kind of like a ceremony. Me and my kid would congregate to the living room, I'd spank him on his posterior a couple of times with my belt, and then we would discuss the circumstance again, and the further consequences if he repeated the act. All I can say is that I have 2 great boys today.Comment -
It's a tough balancing act.
Some sort of physical rebuke is a must IMHO but there is always going to be a fine line between what is necessary and what is counterproductive.Comment -
What is politically correct changes with time. There seems to be a spectrum of acceptable behavior. At the current time, at least in America, we are at a point in the child disciplining spectrum that is way past any reasonable mid-point range. Way overly liberal and indulgent. Do today's parents really think it advisable to send their teenager to the corner for a time-out after they have just burned the house down? Some kids do not require or need physical punishment. Others do. The laws today do not take into consideration that kids are individuals, and actually take away parental options that need to be available to them if they are to raise their kids to be part of our social network.Comment -
Do not need to beat the crap out of a kid to have him tow the line but...
every now and then, harsher discipline is needed IMO.Comment -
Come on now. Who the hell is really going to give a child a time out for burning down their house? First of all they have no damn corner, you just said the kid burned the place down. If its a young child then they don't really know what will happen when they play with the fire. Its just as just as much the parents fault for giving what they need to burn something. And if they are young your just going to be happy if everyone gets out alive.
Now if this child is older, say a teen and he/she burns down your house on purpose, then that is a different story. If that teen planed that and burns the place down then drop bows on em.
JamesComment -
We Need More grumpy old men yelling at kids. I have to yell daily at the little neighborhood bastards to get off my lawn. See the image below (Note: This is a dramatization).
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