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  • doublej95
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    • 01-26-10
    • 14094

    #1
    Man Dies After Hospital tells police to call 911
    What a crappy way to die at the footsteps of the hospital

  • LordVodka
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    • 08-17-09
    • 5206

    #2
    God bless America.
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    • Mr KLC
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      • 12-19-07
      • 31097

      #3
      Sometimes protocol needs to take a back seat, and compassion with common sense needs to sink in.
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      • dizzy_7
        SBR Sharp
        • 07-12-10
        • 437

        #4
        Thank god in Australia this shit would never happen... "Touch Wood"
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        • chilidog
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          • 04-05-09
          • 10305

          #5
          Originally posted by dizzy_7
          Thank god in Australia this shit would never happen... "Touch Wood"
          hehe, we say "knock on wood" in america
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          • shari91
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            • 02-23-10
            • 32661

            #6
            Originally posted by chilidog
            hehe, we say "knock on wood" in america
            Do you??!! I could swear I've always said 'touch wood'. Maybe it's a Canadian thing or maybe my brain's just fried from living in Australia for too long. Probably option #2.
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            • onetrickpony
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-23-10
              • 9434

              #7
              Originally posted by shari91
              Do you??!! I could swear I've always said 'touch wood'. Maybe it's a Canadian thing or maybe my brain's just fried from living in Australia for too long. Probably option #2.
              shari we know ur tendencies of touching wood are higher than most, get ur mind out the gutter. its knock on wood women.
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              • chilidog
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-05-09
                • 10305

                #8
                Originally posted by shari91

                Do you??!! I could swear I've always said 'touch wood'. Maybe it's a Canadian thing or maybe my brain's just fried from living in Australia for too long. Probably option #2.
                yah, and you're supposed to actually knock on some wooden object when you say it. i've never heard it called 'touch wood' before. that just sounds dirty
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                • Robber
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                  • 10-21-09
                  • 6432

                  #9
                  weird story

                  i dont get it
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                  • doublej95
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                    • 01-26-10
                    • 14094

                    #10
                    it's knock on wood.
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                    • shari91
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                      • 02-23-10
                      • 32661

                      #11
                      Originally posted by doublej95
                      it's knock on wood.
                      It's actually both.

                      Knocking on wood, and the spoken expression "knock on wood," are used to express a desire to avoid "tempting fate" after making some boast or speaking of one's own death. In the United Kingdom, Egypt, Ireland, India and Australia, the term "touch wood" is used.

                      In United States and Canada, the term "knock on wood" is best known. It is predated by a now-defunct saying "stomp on wood" which was used in the early 19th century. It was said to originate from early settlers when they would stomp the floor in their log cabins to avoid bad luck. The saying "knocking on wood" was recorded only after the early 20th century.

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                      • doublej95
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                        • 01-26-10
                        • 14094

                        #12
                        I will stick to saying knock on wood, touch wood sounds stupid.
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                        • GoIrish682
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 11-05-10
                          • 246

                          #13
                          i thought it had to do with jesus was a carpenter?
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                          • shari91
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 02-23-10
                            • 32661

                            #14
                            Originally posted by doublej95
                            I will stick to saying knock on wood, touch wood sounds stupid.
                            Actually now that I know it used to be 'stomp on wood', they both sound stupid.
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                            • doublej95
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-26-10
                              • 14094

                              #15
                              maybe that had the foresight that one day particleboard would be invented and stomping it would destroy the hell out of it.
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                              • bettilimbroke999
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-04-08
                                • 13254

                                #16
                                Nobody in the ER gives a shit, the ER is normally the worst workers and the most inept doctors, think about it what doctor worth a shit would work at 3 am sewing up gunshot wounds on gang members without insurance

                                They also like to employ about 1 doctor for every 30 patients, if you have to go to the ER for anything serious rest assured you're dead
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                                • bettilimbroke999
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-04-08
                                  • 13254

                                  #17
                                  I made that mistake a long time ago when I was talking to a teacher of mine, I said touch wood but unfortunately I had a huge boner and she called security
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                                  • boscokid
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-03-10
                                    • 1496

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by doublej95
                                    What a crappy way to die at the footsteps of the hospital http://www.citizen-times.com/article...text|Frontpage
                                    **** this guy - if the hospital staff goes and pulls him out then he sues them for not calling an ambulance. **** this guy - bad luck for him. everybody gotta die someday
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                                    • bracerman
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 01-07-11
                                      • 469

                                      #19
                                      What a terrible story. Unreal how people can't look beyond protocol and the "rules" and just use some common sense.
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                                      • kiefynugs
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-20-10
                                        • 572

                                        #20
                                        would you risk your job to save some random dude?
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                                        • doublej95
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-26-10
                                          • 14094

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by boscokid

                                          **** this guy - if the hospital staff goes and pulls him out then he sues them for not calling an ambulance. **** this guy - bad luck for him. everybody gotta die someday
                                          There is a thing called the Good Samaritan Law. Maybe one day you will be lying on the ground dying and someone will walk by and say fuk this dude.



                                          Originally posted by kiefynugs
                                          would you risk your job to save some random dude?
                                          Yes.
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                                          • Conan
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-01-10
                                            • 1178

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by boscokid
                                            **** this guy - if the hospital staff goes and pulls him out then he sues them for not calling an ambulance. **** this guy - bad luck for him. everybody gotta die someday
                                            And your the problem with the world today
                                            Originally posted by kiefynugs
                                            would you risk your job to save some random dude?
                                            Yes i would
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                                            • cant call it
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-29-10
                                              • 8817

                                              #23
                                              world is messed up place,and it will get alot worse before it gets any better
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                                              • oiler
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-06-09
                                                • 6585

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by doublej95
                                                What a crappy way to die at the footsteps of the hospital

                                                http://www.citizen-times.com/article...text|Frontpage
                                                the sad thing is,it happens everywhere.i was at a bar and a guy was having a heart attcak and there was a fire house right around the corner.they went to get a paramedic and they said u need to call it in so there is a record of it.luckily he didnt die but they need to change the way they respond to emergency calls
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                                                • jeffdane
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                                                  • 09-20-09
                                                  • 5165

                                                  #25
                                                  i think having a job like that, its your duty to help, fired or not its kinda an oath isnt it, i mean i think the next hospital will hire u if u were a great worker and the only negative on your resume was that u saved some dudes life.
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                                                  • bettilimbroke999
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-04-08
                                                    • 13254

                                                    #26
                                                    You guys need to wake the **** up, nobody in healthcare gives a shit about helping anyone, its a fuckin job and they show up to get a paycheck, no one is going to do anything but follow protocol bc they dont make any extra for helping ppl but they could lose their job.
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                                                    • ByeShea
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                                                      • 06-30-08
                                                      • 8093

                                                      #27
                                                      """" But she (the new widow) told The Oregonian she believes if she had insisted on driving with her husband to the hospital, he might still be alive.

                                                      "They left him to die," Luis Garcia said."""""

                                                      Having a heart attack? Drive yourself to the hospital so I can watch General Hospital.
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                                                      • Cap dat 4ss
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 10-11-10
                                                        • 3665

                                                        #28
                                                        It's unfortunate but the hospital staff did the right thing. This mans family can sue and maybe even the hospital will settle but neligence did not take place. 1.) They did not have a duty to act. You can't do anything special in the parking garage, only CPR which the police were already doing. For advanced procedures the EMT's needed to be present or the patient needed to be in the ER. and 2.) It was not the actions of the hospital staff that caused his death. He was already dead when police arrived and he could have been without any perfusion to the brain or heart for up to 20 minutes.

                                                        So as bad as it sounds the ER staff did nothing wrong. You can't save everyone guys and it was his time to go.
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                                                        • Cap dat 4ss
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 10-11-10
                                                          • 3665

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                          You guys need to wake the **** up, nobody in healthcare gives a shit about helping anyone, its a fuckin job and they show up to get a paycheck, no one is going to do anything but follow protocol bc they dont make any extra for helping ppl but they could lose their job.
                                                          Where do you come up with this conclusion? You couldn't be more wrong by the way. A paycheck is part of it and without it nobody would do anything. And of course they will follow protocol most of the time, it's what protects them from a lawsuit. Can't be cowboying nowadays. Easy for an attorney to convince a jury that the damages sustained by his client were the direct result of the medical employee not following protocol. And then the medical worker has no leg to stand on. But nonetheless, I've seen countless times in my career where medics, nurses and doctors have deviated from protocol to potentially helping a patient.

                                                          I've even witnessed a paramedic do a c-section in the field of a traumatic full arrest. Kid is alive and doing very good, paramedic lost his license and was never able to practice again. He sleeps well at night with the decision he made.
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                                                          • bettilimbroke999
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-04-08
                                                            • 13254

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                            """" But she (the new widow) told The Oregonian she believes if she had insisted on driving with her husband to the hospital, he might still be alive.

                                                            "They left him to die," Luis Garcia said."""""

                                                            Having a heart attack? Drive yourself to the hospital so I can watch General Hospital.
                                                            His wife should be executed
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                                                            • bettilimbroke999
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-04-08
                                                              • 13254

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Cap dat 4ss
                                                              Where do you come up with this conclusion? You couldn't be more wrong by the way. A paycheck is part of it and without it nobody would do anything. And of course they will follow protocol most of the time, it's what protects them from a lawsuit. Can't be cowboying nowadays. Easy for an attorney to convince a jury that the damages sustained by his client were the direct result of the medical employee not following protocol. And then the medical worker has no leg to stand on. But nonetheless, I've seen countless times in my career where medics, nurses and doctors have deviated from protocol to potentially helping a patient.

                                                              I've even witnessed a paramedic do a c-section in the field of a traumatic full arrest. Kid is alive and doing very good, paramedic lost his license and was never able to practice again. He sleeps well at night with the decision he made.
                                                              He went out of his way to help and broke protocol was rewarded by being fired. What does that tell you about how likely it is that ppl working in the healthcare industry are going to break protocol to help someone? I mean the ones who do get fired so the ones with jobs dont fuckin break protocol
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                                                              • Vol_Bengal
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 11-30-10
                                                                • 480

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Cap dat 4ss
                                                                I've even witnessed a paramedic do a c-section in the field of a traumatic full arrest. Kid is alive and doing very good, paramedic lost his license and was never able to practice again. He sleeps well at night with the decision he made.
                                                                This is the shit right here that kills any "break protocol" or "just get it done"... sue happy litigants and lawyers and cover their ass happy ambulance fleets and hospitals will throw the "good samaritan" under the damn bus... good samaritan law be damned.

                                                                On a much less important / life threatening note... wife drives a disability bus (wheelchair style) for a local school system. They're not allowed to wheel the child onto the lift, hold the wheelchair while the lift is in motion, or wheel the child off the lift into the bus. A parent / aide has to do it because if ANYTHING happens the first thing the school system will do is blame the bus driver, no matter what. Facts be damned.

                                                                It is heartless and common sense has gone by the wayside... but, you have to protect yourself too. Because, believe it, you will be the scapegoat if shit hits the fan.
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                                                                • Vol_Bengal
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 11-30-10
                                                                  • 480

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jeffdane
                                                                  i think having a job like that, its your duty to help, fired or not its kinda an oath isnt it, i mean i think the next hospital will hire u if u were a great worker and the only negative on your resume was that u saved some dudes life.
                                                                  Not if, in the process of litigation, etc. you lose your medical license. Which could, and would, be highly likely.
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                                                                  • Conan
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-01-10
                                                                    • 1178

                                                                    #34
                                                                    So basicly the argument here is they did nothing wrong because soulless lawyers have made them have to consiter lawsuits before every thing they do. They did do something wrong legaly no moraly yes and the law should change to reflect that.
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                                                                    • oiler
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-06-09
                                                                      • 6585

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Cap dat 4ss
                                                                      It's unfortunate but the hospital staff did the right thing. This mans family can sue and maybe even the hospital will settle but neligence did not take place. 1.) They did not have a duty to act. You can't do anything special in the parking garage, only CPR which the police were already doing. For advanced procedures the EMT's needed to be present or the patient needed to be in the ER. and 2.) It was not the actions of the hospital staff that caused his death. He was already dead when police arrived and he could have been without any perfusion to the brain or heart for up to 20 minutes.

                                                                      So as bad as it sounds the ER staff did nothing wrong. You can't save everyone guys and it was his time to go.
                                                                      i think its a bs rule they live by and if they are in the business of saving lives and they wouldnt help him cause there was no 911 call.shame on them
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