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**Optional** · 06-11-25, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by jt315

You really thought Trump negotiated a deal where we are the ones paying 55% and China in paying 10% ?

^^^ Well well well.

I guess there is proof just how confused these MAGA cultists are.

Read a book. Or try to think for yourself and it will become clear just how silly you look with this statement JT.

You are the text book example of the unthinking brainwashed cultist. Dwight must cringe trying to argue you guys aren't a cult each time he sees you post stuff like this

**Optional** · 06-11-25, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

Let's see what else is in the deal, but all indications are its a huge win for America

I wish it was. But outside your echo chamber EVRYONE else can see that America was winning as the world came out of covid.

China was falling backward fast compared to the USA.

And now there has been a 180 degree turnaround.

Far from fixing a real problem, Trump is creating the problem he has tricked you into thinking already existed.

**jt315** · 06-11-25, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Optional

^^^ Well well well.

I guess there is proof just how confused these MAGA cultists are.

Read a book. Or try to think for yourself and it will become clear just how silly you look with this statement JT.

You are the text book example of the unthinking brainwashed cultist. Dwight must cringe trying to argue you guys aren't a cult each time he sees you post stuff like this

Learn how to read period .

US will be the ones paying 55% he says

US President Donald Trump has announced that the tariffs on Chinese goods will be reduced to 55 per cent.

**Optional** · 06-11-25, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by jt315

Learn how to read period .

US will be the ones paying 55% he says

US President Donald Trump has announced that the tariffs on Chinese goods will be reduced to 55 per cent.

Oh I read and understand what you are saying JT.

And it's sad that you still can't stop and maybe think for yourself about why I might be saying what I am.

When it makes no sense to you, sometimes it can be you as the problem.

**DwightShrute** · 06-11-25, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Optional

I wish it was. But outside your echo chamber EVRYONE else can see that America was winning as the world came out of covid.

China was falling backward fast compared to the USA.

And now there has been a 180 degree turnaround.

Far from fixing a real problem, Trump is creating the problem he has tricked you into thinking already existed.

You keep repeating nonsense from the same people who have lied and misled you are so many years. Did you see how inflation was transitory? How was America winning under Biden? Sure the market was up, but it always goes up. That doesn't mean it can't crash big time one day. Of sure, spending hundreds of billions to pay of student loans and paying people's rent with taxpayer dollars doesn't even enter your mind. Biden (who ever was running the government) put bandaids on broken limbs. They had no idea and still don't. Well, except throw more money at the it. Wars and millions of people illegally coming into the country, Flying in 30,000 a month. What a POS.

They all got rich off the back of the taxpayer while, so did their friends, while Americans paid more, the middle class kept shrinking, and if you refused to take an experimental drug you could earn a living or go see a ballgame or educate your kids. These people are grifters and they only pretend to care while blaming the other guy and begging for more money every few years.

Trump actually does shit. He done more in this year than Biden did in 4 years and Obama did in 8.

**Optional** · 06-11-25, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

You keep repeating nonsense from the same people who have lied and misled you are so many years. Did you see how inflation was transitory? How was America winning under Biden? Sure the market was up, but it always goes up. That doesn't mean it can't crash big time one day. Of sure, spending hundreds of billions to pay of student loans and paying people's rent with taxpayer dollars doesn't even enter your mind. Biden (who ever was running the government) put bandaids on broken limbs. They had no idea and still don't. Well, except throw more money at the it. Wars and millions of people illegally coming into the country, Flying in 30,000 a month. What a POS.

They all got rich off the back of the taxpayer while, so did their friends, while Americans paid more, the middle class kept shrinking, and if you refused to take an experimental drug you could earn a living or go see a ballgame or educate your kids. These people are grifters and they only pretend to care while blaming the other guy and begging for more money every few years.

Trump actually does shit. He done more in this year than Biden did in 4 years and Obama did in 8.

It's really not nonsense. Comparing USA to the rest of the world in 2023 would show that you looked very good in comparison in terms of GDP, unemployment and a number of other universally accepted metrics of national economies.

It was election campaign rhetoric and even right leaning economists would not argue against that statement of the US economy position in 2023 imho.

Sure it wasn't perfect and the pigs have their noses in the public funds trough and some extremists were getting too much traction with their demands. But all those things are symptoms in any free and democratic country. It's part of the inherent system that people we think are bad/dumb/misled get to have their say, so we can also be assured we are always allowed to have our say too.

Anyway, let's see how long this latest tariff level stands for. I don't think it can be the end game as it's self harming now to gain more control later imho.

**khicks26** · 06-11-25, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

You keep repeating nonsense from the same people who have lied and misled you are so many years. Did you see how inflation was transitory? How was America winning under Biden? Sure the market was up, but it always goes up. That doesn't mean it can't crash big time one day. Of sure, spending hundreds of billions to pay of student loans and paying people's rent with taxpayer dollars doesn't even enter your mind. Biden (who ever was running the government) put bandaids on broken limbs. They had no idea and still don't. Well, except throw more money at the it. Wars and millions of people illegally coming into the country, Flying in 30,000 a month. What a POS.

They all got rich off the back of the taxpayer while, so did their friends, while Americans paid more, the middle class kept shrinking, and if you refused to take an experimental drug you could earn a living or go see a ballgame or educate your kids. These people are grifters and they only pretend to care while blaming the other guy and begging for more money every few years.

Trump actually does shit. He done more in this year than Biden did in 4 years and Obama did in 8.

What is Trumps industrial policy? What government invest is he making in infrastructure? Where is the money coming from to build all this new manufacturing? Where are the education programs to train people for all these new jobs?

Don't tell me its going to come from cutting tax's on the rich either. We all know that has been bullshit for the last 50 years.

I doubt you have any answers because this is a con and you are in a cult.

**jt315** · 06-11-25, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Oh I read and understand what you are saying JT.

And it's sad that you still can't stop and maybe think for yourself about why I might be saying what I am.

When it makes no sense to you, sometimes it can be you as the problem.

Speaking of making sense . Let me know when we see a hint of rampant inflation and a coming recession the

“experts” keep warning us of due to tariffs .

**DwightShrute** · 06-11-25, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Optional

It's really not nonsense. Comparing USA to the rest of the world in 2023 would show that you looked very good in comparison in terms of GDP, unemployment and a number of other universally accepted metrics of national economies.

It was election campaign rhetoric and even right leaning economists would not argue against that statement of the US economy position in 2023 imho.

Sure it wasn't perfect and the pigs have their noses in the public funds trough and some extremists were getting too much traction with their demands. But all those things are symptoms in any free and democratic country. It's part of the inherent system that people we think are bad/dumb/misled get to have their say, so we can also be assured we are always allowed to have our say too.

Anyway, let's see how long this latest tariff level stands for. I don't think it can be the end game as it's self harming now to gain more control later imho.

ya let's see.

Put it this way. If you are living in the US and your amazing idea for the newest toy kangaroo has the funding needed but you can save a 55% tarif but not getting it made in China but in Tennessee, then you just might make it in the US. You are closer to your product and you can says its make in the USA to customers. Why is that a bad idea? Like Trump said, maybe kids don't need 10 Barbies, maybe 4 will be enough.

I know when I live wherever I do, I try as much as possible to buy local. I mean, FFS I live there. That's what you should do if you can. When there are no options because everything is made over seas, then fuk ok.

Toyota wanted to build a plant in Mexico years ago and them sell them in the US. America said ok but if you do, then we will charge a 25%$ tariff on Toyotas. So Toyota said ok, we will build a plant in the US. And they did. No one lost their minds over it back then. Imagine if Trump did that deal? The MSM would act like it was doomsday. Did Biden remove the tariffs on China that Trump imposed in his first term? Nope. They sure as hell were against it though. Then they stole the election and saw that those tariffs were good. Funny how that works.

Also, keep in mind, Trump isn't doing these deals solo. He has some very smart people working on it.

It feels like Trump cannot do anything right in the eyes of some of youz. Look at LA for example. Even trying to stop riots and destruction, they try and blame him. Crazy times.

**DwightShrute** · 06-11-25, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by khicks26

What is Trumps industrial policy? What government invest is he making in infrastructure? Where is the money coming from to build all this new manufacturing? Where are the education programs to train people for all these new jobs?

Don't tell me its going to come from cutting tax's on the rich either. We all know that has been bullshit for the last 50 years.

I doubt you have any answers because this is a con and you are in a cult.

nothing worth doing is easy. You keep on repeating the same ole talking points about taxes and the rich. The big new deal saves an average of $13,000 a year in taxes for a household I believe. That's nothing to sneeze at. The wealthier people pay less also but that is a good thing. Where do you think the tax dollars come from to pay government employees for example? They come from taxes collected by the businesses made by the rich people and small businesses and the employees they hire.

You have been conditioned to accept failure as the new norm. That's why you hate people like Trump. He's a winner and a fighter. He doesn't accept failure because when he does fail, he gets up right away and starts again. Failure is part of success. There are no shortcuts.

You say the US doesn't have manufacturing. Where is the money gonna come from to build these factories and plants? WTF? Where did they come from before I ask? Who built those 50,000 factories that disappeared not that long ago? Dude, politicians have sold out your country for a long time now. Same in Canada.

You are so lucky you have a president willing to change things rather than doing the same shit year after yea while blaming the other guy. You just refuse to see for some reason.

**Optional** · 06-11-25, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

ya let's see.

Put it this way. If you are living in the US and your amazing idea for the newest toy kangaroo has the funding needed but you can save a 55% tarif but not getting it made in China but in Tennessee, then you just might make it in the US. You are closer to your product and you can says its make in the USA to customers. Why is that a bad idea? Like Trump said, maybe kids don't need 10 Barbies, maybe 4 will be enough.

I know when I live wherever I do, I try as much as possible to buy local. I mean, FFS I live there. That's what you should do if you can. When there are no options because everything is made over seas, then fuk ok.

Toyota wanted to build a plant in Mexico years ago and them sell them in the US. America said ok but if you do, then we will charge a 25%$ tariff on Toyotas. So Toyota said ok, we will build a plant in the US. And they did. No one lost their minds over it back then. Imagine if Trump did that deal? The MSM would act like it was doomsday. Did Biden remove the tariffs on China that Trump imposed in his first term? Nope. They sure as hell were against it though. Then they stole the election and saw that those tariffs were good. Funny how that works.

Also, keep in mind, Trump isn't doing these deals solo. He has some very smart people working on it.

It feels like Trump cannot do anything right in the eyes of some of youz. Look at LA for example. Even trying to stop riots and destruction, they try and blame him. Crazy times.

Of course that is the preference. Especially in todays world. But market forces have never taken that into so much consideration to make companies want to stop looking for lower costs and higher profits, as they should do in a capitalist based system.

Expecting that the American people will stay happy about paying 50% more for everyday volume consumer items just to subsidize that feel good plan is also not reasonable.

Both the manufacturers and the consumers will be both be constantly fighting against that goal. And even if the public do settle into a more expensive cost of living, eventually the 55% tariff level with lose its effect and need to be pumped up higher to continue working.

Much of what Trump says he wants to achieve about bringing manufacturing could be achieve with soft power and incentives. Which would be far less risk and I'd wager would cost each citizen less too.

What he says he wants is simply not what he really wants. I still don't get what he really wants myself, but I am sure much of the public rhetoric about why just is not true.

**DwightShrute** · 06-11-25, 10:32 AM

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**khicks26** · 06-11-25, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

nothing worth doing is easy. You keep on repeating the same ole talking points about taxes and the rich. The big new deal saves an average of $13,000 a year in taxes for a household I believe. That's nothing to sneeze at. The wealthier people pay less also but that is a good thing. Where do you think the tax dollars come from to pay government employees for example? They come from taxes collected by the businesses made by the rich people and small businesses and the employees they hire.

You have been conditioned to accept failure as the new norm. That's why you hate people like Trump. He's a winner and a fighter. He doesn't accept failure because when he does fail, he gets up right away and starts again. Failure is part of success. There are no shortcuts.

You say the US doesn't have manufacturing. Where is the money gonna come from to build these factories and plants? WTF? Where did they come from before I ask? Who built those 50,000 factories that disappeared not that long ago? Dude, politicians have sold out your country for a long time now. Same in Canada.

You are so lucky you have a president willing to change things rather than doing the same shit year after yea while blaming the other guy. You just refuse to see for some reason.

So, no answers just where did it come from before. Do you even know the answer to your own question?

Just bloviating like your hero and a big ass lick for him. YOUR a clown cult lacky.

**khicks26** · 06-11-25, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

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I'll believe it when I see it. The US is so unstable because of Trump nobody is making any moves right now. These people only invest when they can pay workers 5 dollars an hour.

**khicks26** · 06-11-25, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Of course that is the preference. Especially in todays world. But market forces have never taken that into so much consideration to make companies want to stop looking for lower costs and higher profits, as they should do in a capitalist based system.

Expecting that the American people will stay happy about paying 50% more for everyday volume consumer items just to subsidize that feel good plan is also not reasonable.

Both the manufacturers and the consumers will be both be constantly fighting against that goal. And even if the public do settle into a more expensive cost of living, eventually the 55% tariff level with lose its effect and need to be pumped up higher to continue working.

Much of what Trump says he wants to achieve about bringing manufacturing could be achieve with soft power and incentives. Which would be far less risk and I'd wager would cost each citizen less too.

What he says he wants is simply not what he really wants. I still don't get what he really wants myself, but I am sure much of the public rhetoric about why just is not true.

Trump has no industrial policy, no infrastructure plan. What he's talking about would need a massive government investment. He's cutting government and giving tax breaks to rich people. Which is the opposite of what he's saying. Trump is Big Bullshit and people like Dwight are so willing to swallow the load.

**Hareeba!** · 06-11-25, 02:02 PM

https://x.com/CREWcrew/status/1932875581500035451

**jt315** · 06-11-25, 02:09 PM

Average weekly paycheck is up 1.3% during Trump's 2nd term.

Energy prices now down 2.5% during Trump admin - amazing what happens when White House is not in an all-out war against reliable domestic energy production.

But just wait ‘til tariffs destroy the economy .

**Hareeba!** · 06-11-25, 02:31 PM

Bragg Soldiers Who Cheered Trump's Political Attacks While in Uniform Were Checked for Allegiance, Appearance

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/06/11/bragg-soldiers-who-cheered-trumps-political-attacks-while-uniform-were-checked-allegiance-appearance.html

As President Donald Trump viciously attacked his perceived political foes, he whipped up boos from the gathered troops directed at California leaders, including Gov. Gavin Newsom.

**pavyracer** · 06-11-25, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by jt315

Average weekly paycheck is up 1.3% during Trump's 2nd term.

Energy prices now down 2.5% during Trump admin - amazing what happens when White House is not in an all-out war against reliable domestic energy production.

But just wait ‘til tariffs destroy the economy .

https://www.investopedia.com/oil-prices-jump-to-2-month-high-on-middle-east-concerns-trade-optimism-11752852

Oil Prices Jump to 2-Month High on Middle East Concerns, Trade Optimism

**jt315** · 06-11-25, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

https://www.investopedia.com/oil-prices-jump-to-2-month-high-on-middle-east-concerns-trade-optimism-11752852

Oil Prices Jump to 2-Month High on Middle East Concerns, Trade Optimism

Maybe inflation as predicted by the economic “experts” will rear it’s ugly head by the fall thanks to Trump’s tariffs .

**khicks26** · 06-11-25, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by jt315

Maybe inflation as predicted by the economic “experts” will rear it’s ugly head by the fall thanks to Trump’s tariffs .

You

**Hareeba!** · 06-11-25, 09:29 PM

https://x.com/rshereme/status/1932921198133780676

**Hareeba!** · 06-11-25, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...ppearance.html

https://x.com/adam_wola/status/1932892493328138575

**Hareeba!** · 06-11-25, 09:49 PM

https://x.com/SethAbramson/status/1932991460871192585

**Mr KLC** · 06-11-25, 10:33 PM

Video

**Hareeba!** · 06-11-25, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Tourists being kidnapped off the streets in New York?

The terror on this woman's face when she realizes she's being kidnapped as her 12yr-old daughter is left behind...her screams...this is domestic terrorism.

She is a Chilean tourist in New York.

America can't host any international event. Visitors are not safe .

https://x.com/i/status/1931593436466929848

Javiera Montero was detained for 8 hours before NYPD was forced to admit she committed no crimes and was just vacationing in New York.

**Hareeba!** · 06-11-25, 10:59 PM

In a shocking moment of cognitive decline, Trump blames Gavin Newsom for “causing a lot of death” during the protests in L.A. -

but there have been absolutely zero deaths.

How Is he fit to serve due to his obvious mental difficulties?

https://x.com/i/status/1932482319358497192

**DwightShrute** · 06-11-25, 10:59 PM

YUP!!!

https://x.com/i/status/1932979728656335225

**Hareeba!** · 06-11-25, 11:08 PM

Trump at the Kennedy Centre to see Les Mis, Victor Hugo's classic about redemption and rebellion against injustice.

Once again, irony has escaped Donald Taco-Rico.

**Hareeba!** · 06-11-25, 11:27 PM

TREASURY SECRETARY SCOTT BESSENT TESTIFYING BEFORE THE HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE:

BEYER: Isn't this embarrassing?

BESSENT: You seem not to have seen the economic data. GDP growth has been quite substantial

BEYER: GDP growth is half what it was last year, sir

BESSENT: Job growth is solid

BEYER: Job growth is a third what it was last year, sir

**DwightShrute** · 06-11-25, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by Hareeballs!
Tourists being kidnapped off the streets in New York?

The terror on this woman's face when she realizes she's being kidnapped as her 12yr-old daughter is left behind...her screams...this is domestic terrorism.

She is a Chilean tourist in New York.

America can't host any international event. Visitors are not safe .

Originally posted by PanicMerchantHareeballs!

Javiera Montero was detained for 8 hours before NYPD was forced to admit she committed no crimes and was just vacationing in New York.

You are being spoon fed nonsense. You can't acknowledge what has actually happened, because if you did you'd have to be acknowledging that you were stupid, and no one wants to do that. You live in an alternative reality. That is what TDS does.

A person without TDS, would immediately know that cops aren't kidnapping or arresting people for no reason. A child would understand this.

Even far Left "fact checker" Snopes, confirms you are full shit as per usual.

According to the NYPD, Montero interfered with an arrest involving a larceny suspect and was detained as a result. The daughter was not abandoned, according to the NYPD, but was escorted to the precinct and reunited with her mother following Montero’s release. In an interview with Chilean media, Montero maintained she was arrested after approaching police for help — a conflicting narrative that raised questions about what led to her detention.

In an email, an NYPD spokesperson said the incident in the video began with a larceny at Sunglass Hut on Avenue of the Americas, where four men allegedly stole 53 pairs of sunglasses valued at approximately $32,000. Officers later spotted a suspect matching the description at 34th Street and Seventh Avenue. When they attempted to arrest him, according to the NYPD spokesperson, "an unknown female approached the officers and made multiple attempts to prevent the officers from effecting the arrest."

NYPD identified the woman in the video as Javiera Andrea Montero de la Fuente, a 33-year-old Chilean national legally residing in the United States with her family. According to the NYPD spokesperson, police formally charged her with: