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[19th Hole]

Yeah, that's why he became Uncle Thomas Sowell.

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That's why you remain a knuckle-dragging Islmofascist apologist.

Slither on.

[Optional]

Its mind boggling how people defend a gang member from another country who is in the country illegally. Fukk him and I hope teh POS rots in prison.

Do I really sound like I care about defending a gang member? Or even this guy personally?

Try and avoid the thought any way you choose to, but you are doing it because the way this was handled is uncomfortable for any fair minded person to be happy about it. And alarming for a law abiding citizen who thinks they have inalienable rights in the USA.

[DwightShrute]

Sure, if the law has said the guy should have have ben deported, and his rights of appeal have been exhausted, there should be no argument. (but you know that isn't true of course)

You again betray your words with all the erroneous crap about "someone said he was a hairdresser in the media... so the constitution should no longer count for this person".

None of that would even come to mind as needing to be said if your real argument is simply that this is legal and constitutional.

Sounds a lot more like you care about making points about the media than you care at all about what is legal, right, or anti-American.

Its mind boggling how people defend a gang member from another country who is in the country illegally. Fukk him and I hope teh POS rots in prison.

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Obviously you refused to watch the video which a few people, who know the laws more than you and me, explained it all and the SCOTUS voted 9-0 for Trump's team. It seems as if you know more about the constitution and the laws of the country that they do.

I mean, I didn't comment on this immediately because it seemed strange and I wanted to hear more. The MSM told us all that this was a mistake, he wasn't a gang member, he was a gay hairdresser and wasn't giving his due process. Turns out he was a gang member, was told by the courts years ago to leave the country, and the only mistake was some paperwork which had nothing to do whether or not he was going to be removed from the country. The president of El Salvador said there is no way he would send a terrorist to the United States. So this particular gang member isn't coming back, and no goofy partisan hack judge make anyone do it.

Sure, if the law has said the guy should have have ben deported, and his rights of appeal have been exhausted, there should be no argument. (but you know that isn't true of course)

You again betray your words with all the erroneous crap about "someone said he was a hairdresser in the media... so the constitution should no longer count for this person".

None of that would even come to mind as needing to be said if your real argument is simply that this is legal and constitutional.

Sounds a lot more like you care about making points about the media than you care at all about what is legal, right, or anti-American.

[DwightShrute]

Again, there is no legal right for anyone to arbitrarily decide a judge should be listened to or not.

There is a legal appeal process for that.

You're 100% arguing against constitutional rights. And why I was asking why you do not think it's Anti-American thinking.

Obviously you refused to watch the video which a few people, who know the laws more than you and me, explained it all and the SCOTUS voted 9-0 for Trump's team. It seems as if you know more about the constitution and the laws of the country that they do.

I mean, I didn't comment on this immediately because it seemed strange and I wanted to hear more. The MSM told us all that this was a mistake, he wasn't a gang member, he was a gay hairdresser and wasn't giving his due process. Turns out he was a gang member, was told by the courts years ago to leave the country, and the only mistake was some paperwork which had nothing to do whether or not he was going to be removed from the country. The president of El Salvador said there is no way he would send a terrorist to the United States. So this particular gang member isn't coming back, and no goofy partisan hack judge make anyone do it.

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there is no argument of my end. I posted that video once before and again for you to see. It clearly explains it. The judge overstepped his authority. It seems to happen a lot when it comes to Trump. Remember last year when judges allowed Trump's name to be removed from the ballot because competent judges overturned his insane ruling.

Again, there is no legal right for anyone to arbitrarily decide a judge should be listened to or not.

There is a legal appeal process for that.

You're 100% arguing against constitutional rights. And why I was asking why you do not think it's Anti-American thinking.

[DwightShrute]

Why is this even being discussed if that is true?

You had better explain the law to the judge who ruled he had not been allowed his rights.

And if you genuinely thought that was actually true, you would not be typing all these words about how terrible he is etc. You would not need to. You'd only need to say the words, his legal rights were exhausted so it was legal to deport him. End of discussion. No further argument would have been needed.

there is no argument of my end. I posted that video once before and again for you to see. It clearly explains it. The judge overstepped his authority. It seems to happen a lot when it comes to Trump. Remember last year when judges allowed Trump's name to be removed from the ballot because competent judges overturned his insane ruling.

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he was given his full legal process.

Why is this even being discussed if that is true?

You had better explain the law to the judge who ruled he had not been allowed his rights.

And if you genuinely thought that was actually true, you would not be typing all these words about how terrible he is etc. You would not need to. You'd only need to say the words, his legal rights were exhausted so it was legal to deport him. End of discussion. No further argument would have been needed.

[DwightShrute]

I think the entire point is that he wasn't "given" his full legal process.

And I also very strongly disagree that it is anti American to stick up for the peoples rights.

And think that arguing that ANY individual's rights should be ignored is definitely anti-American, anti-freedom and anti-commonsense. Whatever your non-legal and emotional justification is for that.

Get woke Dwight. Get back on the people's side.

he was given his full legal process.

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He was given his legal process. He was told to leave the country years ago. He defied the law.

Illegal immigrants aren't afforded the same rights as actually citizens. I am pretty sure that is the same for most countries. How can it not be?

He's a member of a criminal terrorist group. The POTUS has the right to remove these people.

Anti-American is sticking up for a POS gang member belonging to a group of murderers and rapists.

Stephen Miller explains it perfectly.

I don't know who the CNN reporter was, probably Kaitlan Collins, but what a fool she was. CNN is an embarrassment to journalism.

I think the entire point is that he wasn't "given" his full legal process.

And I also very strongly disagree that it is anti American to stick up for the peoples rights.

And think that arguing that ANY individual's rights should be ignored is definitely anti-American, anti-freedom and anti-commonsense. Whatever your non-legal and emotional justification is for that.

Get woke Dwight. Get back on the people's side.

[DwightShrute]

You are twisting to excuse your govt ignoring YOUR rights and removing this guy before his appeal process was exhausted or a court legally allowed it.

He could be the worst person in the world, but does that justify YOUR rights being taken away.


Didn't you think you would always have a RIGHT to defend yourself legally in America?

And now you are happy to mock anyone who stands up for the law and YOUR rights. It's like you want to be under 1984 Big Brother control. Cheering for the destruction of rights when it suits you. Anti-American isn't it?

He was given his legal process. He was told to leave the country years ago. He defied the law.

Illegal immigrants aren't afforded the same rights as actually citizens. I am pretty sure that is the same for most countries. How can it not be?

He's a member of a criminal terrorist group. The POTUS has the right to remove these people.

Anti-American is sticking up for a POS gang member belonging to a group of murderers and rapists.

Stephen Miller explains it perfectly.

I don't know who the CNN reporter was, probably Kaitlan Collins, but what a fool she was. CNN is an embarrassment to journalism.

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Trump Budget Director asks GOP lawmakers to yank all federal funding for Corporation for Public Broadcasting



99% of the funding for these channels are privately funded anyway. The government shouldn't use taxpayer dollar to fund these political organizations even though its only 1%.

Will the free market produce educational and children's content? Or any content that isn't a profit maker?

Will the free market foster young American film making talent or just go for profit?

A govt funded news organisation is not subject to commercial pressures about what to report on.

Some good reasons why we should want some govt funding of the arts and media.

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Trump advisor Stephen Miller perfectly debunked this ENTIRE claim that Garcia's deportation was an "error."


In 2019, he was ordered deported. He is a final removal order from the United States. These are things that no one disputes. Where is he from? El Salvador. Where is he a resident and citizen of? El Salvador. Is he here illegally? Yes. Does he have a deportation order? Yes." "A DOJ lawyer who has since been relieved of duty, a saboteur, a Democrat, put into a filing incorrectly that this was a mistaken and removal. It was NOT! This was the right person sent to the right place."

You are twisting to excuse your govt ignoring YOUR rights and removing this guy before his appeal process was exhausted or a court legally allowed it.

He could be the worst person in the world, but does that justify YOUR rights being taken away.


Didn't you think you would always have a RIGHT to defend yourself legally in America?

And now you are happy to mock anyone who stands up for the law and YOUR rights. It's like you want to be under 1984 Big Brother control. Cheering for the destruction of rights when it suits you. Anti-American isn't it?

[jt315]

Today your President, having launched a global trade war, feted in the Oval Office a Central American dictator who runs a mega-prison known for starvation and torture - a prison to which the government has, by its own admission, sent at least one person "in error." They disappeared a man without a single criminal charge who's lived and worked here for 15 years - who was alleged to be a member of a gang based in a state he never lived by one anonymous informant. No other evidence. No trial. No conviction. Nothing but a legal order that he not be deported to El Salvador, where he's now serving a life sentence.

The Supreme Court just ruled, without any noted dissent, that the government must facilitate the man's release. But Trump and his dictator friend said no. They laughed. They mocked the journalist who asked whether they'd abide by the Court's order.

The Attorney General, the Secretary of State, and the White House Deputy Chief all lied about the facts of the case.

Then the President repeated his proposal to send American citizens to the dictator's prison, and asked him to build five more.

The same day we found out that the government knowingly disappeared a PhD student for nothing but an op-ed, a man's 19-year old son who agents admitted was the wrong kid, and a viza-holding Russian scientist at Harvard who forgot to declare frog embryos at the border.

Trump advisor Stephen Miller perfectly debunked this ENTIRE claim that Garcia's deportation was an "error."


In 2019, he was ordered deported. He is a final removal order from the United States. These are things that no one disputes. Where is he from? El Salvador. Where is he a resident and citizen of? El Salvador. Is he here illegally? Yes. Does he have a deportation order? Yes." "A DOJ lawyer who has since been relieved of duty, a saboteur, a Democrat, put into a filing incorrectly that this was a mistaken and removal. It was NOT! This was the right person sent to the right place."

[DwightShrute]

Trump Budget Director asks GOP lawmakers to yank all federal funding for Corporation for Public Broadcasting



99% of the funding for these channels are privately funded anyway. The government shouldn't use taxpayer dollar to fund these political organizations even though its only 1%.

[Hareeba!]

Did you vote for Joe Biden? Here's a quote he made on June 2, 2022: "At the same time, the Second Amendment, like all other rights, is not absolute."

All other rights will include your due process rights. According to Joe Biden, it isn't an absolute right. Maybe you should just pretend the person who had their rights violated is someone you'd call a MAGAt, and you can go to sleep and wake up with a smile on your face.

You're still continuing to avoid answering the specific question whilst preferring to continue quoting a general principle.
That in my experience on this platform is par for the course from the MAGAts here.

[Hareeba!]

And more contempt of Court by this administration:

Despite a court order, a reporter and photographer from The Associated Press were barred from an Oval Office news conference on Monday with President Donald Trump and his counterpart from El Salvador, Nayib Bukele.

[guitarjosh]

Failure to answer the question.

I don't have a party.

Where is there any justification for ignoring the right to due process in this case?

Did you vote for Joe Biden? Here's a quote he made on June 2, 2022: "At the same time, the Second Amendment, like all other rights, is not absolute."

All other rights will include your due process rights. According to Joe Biden, it isn't an absolute right. Maybe you should just pretend the person who had their rights violated is someone you'd call a MAGAt, and you can go to sleep and wake up with a smile on your face.

[Hareeba!]

Today your President, having launched a global trade war, feted in the Oval Office a Central American dictator who runs a mega-prison known for starvation and torture - a prison to which the government has, by its own admission, sent at least one person "in error." They disappeared a man without a single criminal charge who's lived and worked here for 15 years - who was alleged to be a member of a gang based in a state he never lived by one anonymous informant. No other evidence. No trial. No conviction. Nothing but a legal order that he not be deported to El Salvador, where he's now serving a life sentence.

The Supreme Court just ruled, without any noted dissent, that the government must facilitate the man's release. But Trump and his dictator friend said no. They laughed. They mocked the journalist who asked whether they'd abide by the Court's order.

The Attorney General, the Secretary of State, and the White House Deputy Chief all lied about the facts of the case.

Then the President repeated his proposal to send American citizens to the dictator's prison, and asked him to build five more.

The same day we found out that the government knowingly disappeared a PhD student for nothing but an op-ed, a man's 19-year old son who agents admitted was the wrong kid, and a viza-holding Russian scientist at Harvard who forgot to declare frog embryos at the border.

[Hareeba!]

There’s no shortage of things you give me to laugh at, it’s just your insistence that if you make money in stocks, you’re living off the backs of workers as you do the same thing just shows what a hypocritical bitch you are. You want Social Security too, right? That’s even more money from workers to you, hypocritical bitch! LOL.

The Fed isn’t run by bankers at all, Jerome Powell is not a banker. You’re just lying again. All you want to do is make the groups you love better off at the expense of the groups you hate, which is why you want to end capitalism.

It must be, you’re the expert on making things up. Volker did raise rates, and Reagan did put in free market reforms which stabilized the economy for decades. Nixon was a disaster, and those price controls led to rationing and shortages. The market always wins.

Name names, which companies can’t support themselves at all? Be specific.

Ownership is private hands in fascism too, hypocritical bitch. I’m not 12, but you have the economic understanding of a 5-year-old. India had private ownership, and the License Raj, which made it very difficult to open a business unless you knew the right people or could afford to grease the right palms. That’s exactly what democratic socialism brings.

No, that’s what happened, which is why every claim you made about what made America rich, I can point to other countries that had more but less wealth. Even slavery in America proves you wrong. You do realize most slaves were in the South, right? If slavery made regions wealthy, the South would have been wealthier than the North, but that wasn’t the case, because slavery doesn’t make a place as a whole wealthier.

Go back and explain where I got the history of Brazil wrong. Oh, that’s right, you don’t know or care.

Yep, the man who has facts and logic, and the hypocritical bitch that is the stupidest man alive. LOL

Fun as hell, another Freudian slip. Hell = torment, stupid hypocritical bitch, LOL.

So you're defending Trump here? No due process and you're saying it's okay because that's what the Founders wanted?

Where did the Founders say no Constitutional rights are absolute? Amending the Constitution and ignoring the Constitution aren’t the same thing, hypocritical bitch.



Um, no Constitutional rights being absolute means there are times when Constitutional rights are ignored. Your party was the party that preached that, and now they’re seeing it in action.

Failure to answer the question.

I don't have a party.

Where is there any justification for ignoring the right to due process in this case?