Republican vs Democrat

[guitarjosh]

Still pointless and doesn't disprove anything I said about living conditions and human rights. Harp on about your love for Robber Barons all you want. One thing being bad doesn't make the other good.

45% of voters didn't vote, Reagan was senile and putz.

Do you see red everywhere?

and?

Still a corporate government and in line with fascism. You defending it kind of proves that.

Smelling your own farts again I see. LOL

Which human rights did they not have? The living conditions were better for the average person compared to anyplace in human history.

And if that 45% did vote, you think it would have made a significant change? I don’t know that he was senile at that point, but he did a great job working with Volker to lower inflation and he helped get the economy going. Since he’s been president, we’ve had 4 recessions start, one was due to covid. From 1953-1980, we had 6.

I do on that electoral map of 1984

And that’s what you want for the people you don’t agree with.

A corporate government is what you claim fascism is, where the political leaders take their orders from corporations. Fascism is where the dictator gives the orders. If you disagree, tell me who was giving orders to Hitler and Mussolini.

No just pointing out facts that you’ve been fooled by grifters who sensationalize everything so they’ll get your money.

[guitarjosh]

Since you put up the map of 1984,
As much as I disagreed with RR He would never give in to Russia. They are as evil now, as they were, when they were the USSR. We have a leader now that is not half the man RR was. I'm not a fan of RR, but at least you knew where he stood.

Trump hasn’t given into Russia, in fact there were reports last weekend that Trump is furious at Putin.

[DwightShrute]

Tariffs will NEVER reduce our debt. I’m not sure why you keep mentioning this??? The only thing that will reduce our debt is to STOP spending but do you really believe this administration is going to stop? Really? I’ll bet you Trump will add at least 4-5 trillion to the debt in the next 4 years.

The only possible effect these tariffs can have is to create more inflation, which will force reduced interest rates, which would mean we don’t pay as high an interest on the debt we owe. These Tariffs will not reduce the debt. If the dollar collapsed, our debt would suddenly be Pennie’s on the dollar.

The US pays almost a trillion in interest each year for the national debt. Washington has a spending problem. We agree on that. Their only solution has been to throw more money at a problem while the middle class pays the price and the politicians make fortunes. Year after year the same shit. Most us know that nothing will change unless you try something different. Well, here ya go. Doge, border and tariffs. It can't be any worse that it has been, but there is a massive upside if it works. When it works.

Reducing interest rates will help reduce the debt. So will reducing their size of government and cutting waste. Accountable government will reduce debt. Not funding endless wars will reduce debt. Not funding transgender cooking classes in some other country and a thousand other projects will reduce debt. Defunding NPR would reduce the debt. I won't bother listing dozens more.

Who told you tariffs won't reduce debt? It's a different world today. Why do over 170 countries have tariffs btw?

Why does everything need to be made in China? Remember Covid? We all had to wait for China to make more masks after they Covid escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences is a research institute on virology under the Wuhan Branch of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, where they worked on Gain of function research and coronaviruses.

I agree with the many extremely successful people who disagree with you.

I bet that everything will be much better over the coming weeks and months.

Trump 2028

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[Mac4Lyfe]

The US is 37 trillion in debt and increasing by 1 trillion every 100 days, which will only increase as the debt does. It will be around 40 trillion by the end of the year. Doing nothing isn't an option. The dollar will collapse eventually.

It takes courage to stop the insanity. That is what is happening. For some strange reason, you can't see it.

Tariffs will NEVER reduce our debt. I’m not sure why you keep mentioning this??? The only thing that will reduce our debt is to STOP spending but do you really believe this administration is going to stop? Really? I’ll bet you Trump will add at least 4-5 trillion to the debt in the next 4 years.

The only possible effect these tariffs can have is to create more inflation, which will force reduced interest rates, which would mean we don’t pay as high an interest on the debt we owe. These Tariffs will not reduce the debt. If the dollar collapsed, our debt would suddenly be Pennie’s on the dollar.

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You will criticize anything Trump does or says. Your post history is proof. He's been talking tariffs since the 80's and it's not as if he is doing this all by himself. He has many wise people around him who know more about economics that you do.

Your hatred of Trump prevents you from admitting what's been happening for years.

You support/rationalize everything Trump does or says. Your post history is proof.

Your love of Trump prevents you from admitting what's been happening for years.

[DwightShrute]

lol you will defend anything. Only question is whether he comes to his senses (does he have any?) to declare a fake win and pull back on the tariffs. He has weeks, max. If he doesn't, there will be a global depression the likes of which we have not seen in at least a century. That is not healing. And you will blame Biden lol.

You will criticize anything Trump does or says. Your post history is proof. He's been talking tariffs since the 80's and it's not as if he is doing this all by himself. He has many wise people around him who know more about economics than you do.

Your hatred of Trump prevents you from admitting what's been happening for years. Not just in the US mind you. Over 170 countries use tariffs. They aren't a Trump invention.

The US is 37 trillion in debt and increasing by 1 trillion every 100 days, which will only increase as the debt does. It will be around 40 trillion by the end of the year. Doing nothing isn't an option. The dollar will collapse eventually.

It takes courage to stop the insanity. That is what is happening. For some strange reason, you can't see it.

Oh sure, we have heard those economists who have said what he is doing won't work. Those are the ones you believe. Some of the same people who told you don't buy Tesla stock years ago and to cash-in your stocks right after Trump was elected the first time.

Who else are you listening to? Well, the media and the democratic party no doubt. Let's do a refresher about their track-records. They are the same people who can't define what a woman is, who tried to remove Trump from the ballot, who weaponized the justice department against Trump, who pretended Biden didn't have dementia, who kept repeating Russian collusion hoax, repeated the "losers and suckers" lie, kept repeating the "very fine people on both sides" lie, told you Covid didn't come from a lab which studies corona viruses in Wuhan, called you racist for calling it the Chinese coronavirus, told you that people were taking horse dewormer and drinking bleach, said that Trump made fun of a reporter's disability, that Trump incited violence, that there was an insurrection on J6, that said Obama never spied on Trump's campaign, that the border was secure, that ICE agents on horseback were whipping illegal immigrants, that Trump looked into a solar eclipse, that you cannot get covid or infect others if you get the jab, that Trump said there would be a bloodbath if he wasn't elected, that Trump said he would be a dictator, that "immigrants are animals", that these are mostly peaceful protests while there were buildings literally on fire in the background. They have a stellar track record? But THIS TIME they will be right!

[pavyracer]

Treasury Secretary Bessent : "Wall Street has done great. It can continue to do well—but it's Main Street's turn."

Wait until this market collapse spills into the banking sector and the mortgage holders and then Main Street will lose their savings too when their banks and credit unions go under. It only takes a spark to spill there and Trump is playing with matches on one hand and gasoline on the other.

[pavyracer]

When has he ever backed down? When has he ever admitted he was wrong? He has dug in his heels and ain’t turning back. We had a well oiled economy all setup for a pro business president and he created a flash crash, doomsday for no fukking reason. It’s unbelievable.

When more people are getting evicted all lose their jobs or their life savings and start shooting at him again he will back down. This time he is messing with the livelihoods of millions so many candidates for a few to get mental and start shooting.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I think he will back down, but I certainly could be wrong. If he doesn't, within 3-4 months the S&P 500 could fall 50% (to 3,000). He's already done some permanent damage, but much is still yet to come. His cult doesn't care - they will blame Biden.

When has he ever backed down? When has he ever admitted he was wrong? He has dug in his heels and ain’t turning back. We had a well oiled economy all setup for a pro business president and he created a flash crash, doomsday for no fukking reason. It’s unbelievable.

[jt315]

Treasury Secretary Bessent : "Wall Street has done great. It can continue to do well—but it's Main Street's turn."

[d2bets]

Trump will not back down. Every economist has told him this is bad for business. Drives up prices, removes US jobs, takes money out of US companies as they have to pay for materials made elsewhere. Drop off in buying is the next thing which will spur recession. This is not a long game. This is a steady purge. Be ready for slow/no growth.

I think he will back down, but I certainly could be wrong. If he doesn't, within 3-4 months the S&P 500 could fall 50% (to 3,000). He's already done some permanent damage, but much is still yet to come. His cult doesn't care - they will blame Biden.

[Mac4Lyfe]

lol you will defend anything. Only question is whether he comes to his senses (does he have any?) to declare a fake win and pull back on the tariffs. He has weeks, max. If he doesn't, there will be a global depression the likes of which we have not seen in at least a century. That is not healing. And you will blame Biden lol.

Trump will not back down. Every economist has told him this is bad for business. Drives up prices, removes US jobs, takes money out of US companies as they have to pay for materials made elsewhere. Drop off in buying is the next thing which will spur recession. This is not a long game. This is a steady purge. Be ready for slow/no growth.

[Mac4Lyfe]

During the 2020 stock market crash, on March 23, 2020, the index hit a low of 6,860. However, on June 9, 2020, the index traded above 10,000 for the first time. On August 6, 2020, the index reached a new all-time high above 11,000 and managed to close for the year at 12,888 points

what happened back then?


also back then,

Largest gain in the Dow 2020-03-24 ....

+2,112.98

No one is panicking. The country is healing and that takes a bit of time.

These tariffs are bad policy. The economy was blowing and going and this president has singlhandedly demolished millions of Americans 401Ks. The economy of uncertainty is worse today than during Covid. He’s sending the US into a recession. For what?

[d2bets]

During the 2020 stock market crash, on March 23, 2020, the index hit a low of 6,860. However, on June 9, 2020, the index traded above 10,000 for the first time. On August 6, 2020, the index reached a new all-time high above 11,000 and managed to close for the year at 12,888 points

what happened back then?


also back then,

Largest gain in the Dow 2020-03-24 ....

+2,112.98

No one is panicking. The country is healing and that takes a bit of time.

lol you will defend anything. Only question is whether he comes to his senses (does he have any?) to declare a fake win and pull back on the tariffs. He has weeks, max. If he doesn't, there will be a global depression the likes of which we have not seen in at least a century. That is not healing. And you will blame Biden lol.

[jt315]

A delegation of House Democratic lawmakers will visit a portion of the southern border on Friday to conduct oversight of the Trump administration's border policies "firsthand" as authorities continue the president's mass deportation program.

Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-MS., the ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee, will lead the delegation.

[jt315]

Biden "went to a small fundraiser. Fluorescent tape on the floor to guide him where needs to go..." "A small place, and it's like, fluorescent tape on the floor, pointing him wear to go. In a house." Insane details from @RisingTheHill's interview with @amieparnes and @jonallendc. on their new book, FIGHT.


And the inner circle would have had no problem dragging the senile POS across the finish line for another 4 years if they could have escaped the disastrous debate with minimal damage .

[slewfan]

Chuck Schumer on Tariffs. Will the real Chuckie Boy stand up please.?

https://youtu.be/haJ9BE3RQ-4?list=LL&t=3

[Hareeba!]

Folks, this whole tariff nonsense is not at all about a genuine economic policy.

Have you seen what he's been doing to the large law firms (and universities)?

Threatening retribution unless they come to the party with loyalty pledges and significant pro-bono deals for his administration.

This tariff thing is simply just another shakedown operation.

He's looking to the major industries/firms which would be affected to come to the table and make deals to contribute to his campaign/administration in exchange for relief.

In the meantime those insiders in the know are buying up big on the stockmarket's huge falls and will book large gains when the deals are struck.

[Hareeba!]

This is what the country’s actual tariffs are on the US vs what the White House claimed.

(In case anyone was wondering)