Republican vs Democrat

[slewfan]

Think about this... NOT ONE PAST PRESIDENT HAS ENDORSED TRUMP. All of the current living presidents have ALL openly said they could not vote for him. Think about that. NOT ONE PERSON THAT WAS IN HIS 2016 ADMINISTRATION HAS COME OUT TO ENDORSE TRUMP. Many of his 2016 staff have openly come out AGAINST Trump. What kind of crazy is this? His VP, Mike Pence, who spent almost every waking day under Trump has said that he can not in good faith vote for Trump. How can so many people who supported him totally flip and be actually rooting against him? How can Trump hold such a firm grip on you zealots? His closest people are telling you not to drink the koolaid and still here we are. Some of you would have been on the first flight to Georgetown.

It is not difficult to understand. Trump spoke 35 years ago about the criminality of the Government. One of the first things he spoke on when elected were “ term limits”. This automatically turned Republicans and Democrats against him.

Then he exposed the FBI for its criminality in defending the Crooked Leftist agendas.

He exposed the fake news for their slanting the truth and changing narratives to print more lies.

We won’t mention for the thousands of times his economy, border, world peace etc, etc. What a real president is supposed to do. HIS JOB. The attacks from the proletariat press and creepy, lying Left political storm in trying to get him out of office.

I think what you should ask yourself: Why would the most elite people in the world ( AMERICAN POLITICIANS) be against him. I’ll tell you why, “ Trump is a threat to their cabal”. Both sides of the isle. They fear him because he may take some of their POWER away and give it back where it belongs, to the PEOPLE..

There is so much more, but honestly, these forums are filled with bullshat. We all see it, but ignore most it does not fit our certain aspect of the propaganda. But we have to be reasonable.

Bush won’t support Trump because Bushy Boy Jr. was a horrible President and human being. Of course Democrats won’t because they want power and to destroy America and their Communist agenda. The Democrat voters have no idea or refuse to understand what is taking place in DC.

Whoever wins really doesn’t matter. The government elites will still remain powerful over the people as the world turns to a one committee government.
Trump winning will only slow it down some. But the Leftists and fascists will be out rioting and burning cities. You heard it here brother.

[jt315]

Been telling ya for some time to get set on FL turning blue ... +680 or so available.

Biden would pass a dementia test before Florida turns blue .

[jt315]

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That is funny, it was a lot more than that! That is like one year of the four.

One of my favorites . Totally possible he lied on average 21 times a day for four years while he was in office .

Heck , some say it could even be way more .

[rkelly110]

An entitled orange POFS!

[b1slickguy]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last year, a male on a women&#39;s field hockey team in MA knocked out a female player’s teeth.<br><br>Now, the school has decided to forfeit an upcoming game because their opponent (different team) has a male player.<br><br>&quot;We stand strong in making a stance for safety over victory&quot; ���� <a href="https://t.co/B2yqGH2tXR">pic.twitter.com/B2yqGH2tXR</a></p>&mdash; Riley Gaines (@Riley_Gaines_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Riley_Gaines_/status/1833197212576440676?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[b1slickguy]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WATCH: RFK Jr. says the Democratic Party is so “fundamentally anti-democratic” that it now mirrors Putin’s regime in Russia.<br><br>1. “They got rid of the primaries to make sure that [Kennedy] couldn&#39;t run against Joe Biden” and to conceal his “cognitive deficits.”<br><br>2. “When there was… <a href="https://t.co/4GAQEjzdGh">pic.twitter.com/4GAQEjzdGh</a></p>&mdash; The Vigilant Fox �� (@VigilantFox) <a href="https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1833345452533551273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[19th Hole]

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[DwightShrute]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last year, a male on a women&#39;s field hockey team in MA knocked out a female player’s teeth.<br><br>Now, the school has decided to forfeit an upcoming game because their opponent (different team) has a male player.<br><br>&quot;We stand strong in making a stance for safety over victory&quot; ���� <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/B2yqGH2tXR">pic.twitter.com/B2yqGH2tXR</a></p>&mdash; Riley Gaines (@Riley_Gaines_) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/Riley_Gaines_/status/1833197212576440676?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DwightShrute]

Been telling ya for some time to get set on FL turning blue ... +680 or so available.

you also told us many times that Trump wouldn't even be the republican nominee.

[DwightShrute]

I'm also in favor of decriminalizing illegal immigration. We should not be putting immigrants in jail and turning them into criminals. It's stupid and too costly. Send them back home. Why is that such a controversial issue for you? It cost a lot more money to jail people, including their kids. Round them up and spend the money to send them elsewhere. Make it more enticing to stay home by investing in their communities. Criminalizing is not very effective. We've already tried that.

who is saying putting immigrants in jail? Who is saying putting illegal immigrants in jail? You turn them around and send them away. You don't let them in to begin with. Also, most of those kids aren't their actual kids.

[DwightShrute]

You are Jim Jones level cult. When EVERYONE is telling you your leader is a bad guy. Especially the ones HE CHOSE to work with him, you might want to consider the sources. What do they have to gain? Do you think the Dems paid them off? His once closest allies all say he's an awful human being that can't be trusted. A lot of you all will have to one day answer to God for idol worship.

what are you going on about? Furthermore, Dick Cheney just announced he would be voting for the DEI hire. The MSM media are happy about this. They same guy they called a war monger. Halliburton?

Speaking of a cult, JFC you guys will always stick up for the gritters while attacking the real heroes. Americas last. Laughing at the death of your fellow citizen. I am glad I was raised to use critical thinking.

[jt315]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CNN—yes CNN—exposes just how far left Kamala Harris is. According to an ACLU questionaire from 2019 Kamala is in favor of decriminalizing illegal immigration, taxpayer funded gender transitions for illegals, defunding ICE, ending ICE detainers, and decriminalizing ALL drugs… <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/rbdGbB5fPk">pic.twitter.com/rbdGbB5fPk</a></p>&mdash; Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1833329281952583775?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

When asked , Harris spokesman Michael Tyler REFUSES to walk back Kamala's support for decriminalizing fentanyl and taxpayer-funded transition surgeries of illegal immigrants.


These old questionnaires are a complete distraction from the task at hand .

Lol !

[19th Hole]

PUTIN SUPPORTS A HUMAN VEGETABLE FOR US PRESIDENT

https://news.sky.com/video/vladimir-putin-claims-he-wants-kamala-harris-to-win-the-us-election-

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[Hareeba!]

Trump Calls for House Republicans to Shut Down Government Over Imaginary Election Security Threat

In typical fashion, TFG is once again trying to drag the nation into chaos for his own political gain, this time by calling on House Republicans to shut down the federal government on September 30.

His reasoning? A supposed voter registration scheme involving "illegal aliens" that doesn’t actually exist.

[Hareeba!]

There’s really nothing to debate.

You either support a career prosecutor or a convicted felon and rapist.

You either support the U.S. Constitution or a man who has pledged to “terminate it.”

You either support democracy or fascism.

Truth, honour, & decency or lies, bigotry & hate.

[DwightShrute]

There’s really nothing to debate.

You either support a career prosecutor or a convicted felon and rapist.

You either support the U.S. Constitution or a man who has pledged to “terminate it.”

You either support democracy or fascism.

Truth, honour, & decency or lies, bigotry & hate.

he is not a rapist. No more than you are and you probably are. He is not a felon. He was unfairly prosecuted by a corrupt judge who allowed a bogus prosecution to be carried out in order to try an stop someone for running for president. Its one charge that is just some paper work violation that happens all the time and the statute of limitations already expired so the corrupt DA invented a new one just for Trump and then purposely announced 34 counts guilty for dramatic purposes for idiots like you and the MSM.

Trump never said he would terminate the constitution. You are lying as per usual. How would he do that anyway? Wave a magic wand and poof o more constitution?!!!!??? How can you possibly be this dumb?

You don't even know what fascism means.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, that explains a lot <a href="https://t.co/JFrebjSpgC">pic.twitter.com/JFrebjSpgC</a></p>&mdash; Karli Bonne’ ���� (@KarluskaP) <a href="https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1833614686245224729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 10, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Itsamazing777]

Trump wiped the floor with Biden first debate.
Expect the same result tonight.

[Mac4Lyfe]

who is saying putting immigrants in jail? Who is saying putting illegal immigrants in jail? You turn them around and send them away. You don't let them in to begin with. Also, most of those kids aren't their actual kids.

The meme you or someone else said that Harris was against jailing them. Well, I'm against jailing them too and it sounds like you are as well.

Please explain how do you not let people into this country? Joe Blow from Timbuktu can fly, drive, walk to the border and say that they are visiting the US to attend an NFL game over the weekend. We welcome people vacationing, spending their money in this country. But then Joe ends up staying in the US past his time. He now is illegal and undocumented. He didn't climb a wall, nor claimed refugee status. He and maybe his family took a vacation and never left. HOW DO YOU STOP THIS???

[Mac4Lyfe]

It is not difficult to understand. Trump spoke 35 years ago about the criminality of the Government. One of the first things he spoke on when elected were “ term limits”. This automatically turned Republicans and Democrats against him.

Trump winning will only slow it down some. But the Leftists and fascists will be out rioting and burning cities. You heard it here brother.

Trump won 8 years ago. He hand selected his team including his VP. He had an inner circle of people when he ran the White House. How do you reconcile that ALL the people HE CHOSE today do not endorse him? Not only do they not recommend him, they recommend AGAINST him. Do you really want to believe that they are all evil and conspired against him? What will he do different, who would he select this time if reelected?

[Mac4Lyfe]

what are you going on about? Furthermore, Dick Cheney just announced he would be voting for the DEI hire. The MSM media are happy about this. They same guy they called a war monger. Halliburton?
Speaking of a cult, JFC you guys will always stick up for the gritters while attacking the real heroes. Americas last. Laughing at the death of your fellow citizen. I am glad I was raised to use critical thinking.

It's just not Dick Cheney... Republicans have come out in droves to support Harris. Why? Because Harris is so awesome? Or maybe, just maybe, Trump is so awful? I'm not sure who you're calling the gritters and the heroes? I think you've got it mixed up. One guy is a known conman and you fell for him, even after EVERYONE that has known him has told you he is fukked up.

[DwightShrute]

The meme you or someone else said that Harris was against jailing them. Well, I'm against jailing them too and it sounds like you are as well.

Please explain how do you not let people into this country? Joe Blow from Timbuktu can fly, drive, walk to the border and say that they are visiting the US to attend an NFL game over the weekend. We welcome people vacationing, spending their money in this country. But then Joe ends up staying in the US past his time. He now is illegal and undocumented. He didn't climb a wall, nor claimed refugee status. He and maybe his family took a vacation and never left. HOW DO YOU STOP THIS???

You build a fukking wall for starters. Trump almost had it done. The steel was there and paid for. All they had to do was finish it. Instead, they sold it for pennies on the dollar will paying huge money for the workers for not even finishing it. Biden id that day one by executive order He cancelled dozens of Trump's border policies. You do know that Trump convinced Mexico to deploy over 13,000 of their own soldiers to their southern border to stop them coming into Mexico on their way to America? 94% of border agent say the wall is critical so the can do their job. Are you saying walls serve no purpose anymore? Or are you saying walls never did serve a purpose? If so, why do they build walls? I am not talking about the walls that support you house. I mean actual walls like they erect at the DNC convention and all around the Capitaol building and anywhere they want to prevent people from easily getting in.

People are stopped at customs all the time. Many are turned away and sent back to the country they came from on the next available flight. Joe could fly in but the border agent can see his return ticket. If he doesn't have one or its for next year, then he's probably not coming for a game.

You will always have people who overstay. Its not a perfect system. 15,000 a day were walking across the southern border. It was a caravan. An invasion. Its against the law which American citizen's voted on.

[Mac4Lyfe]

A total wall across the entire country is foolish at best, cost prohibitive at worst. Are you going to build a wall along our beaches too? Have you driven across Texas? Do you know how long this state is? Almost 1,000 miles. The US Southern Border is 2,000 miles. The US Canadian border is 4,000 miles. You are talking half the size of the Great Wall of China. Do you know how long it took to build the Great Wall? 2,000 fukking years. It takes a decade to repair a few miles of freeway and you seriously think we can build a border wall in our lifetimes?

You build a wall and people just bring a ladder or dig a hole. You build a bigger, deeper wall and people just use an air balloon. Plus a wall does not address the millions of people that enter legally and stay. A wall is one of the most stupidest ideas Trump has ever pitched but you suckers bought it.

[DwightShrute]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow <br><br>Debate host ABC is ranked Most Biased of the Big 3 Networks <a href="https://t.co/d4cXEFydU7">pic.twitter.com/d4cXEFydU7</a></p>&mdash; Jack Poso ���� (@JackPosobiec) <a href="https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1833492606640087404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 10, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jt315]

Has anyone attempted to explain how the biggest racist to ever run for president is doing better with minority voters than almost every republican presidential candidate in our lifetime?


Trump's share of Black voters, September 2020 NYT/Siena poll: 7%

Trump's share of Black voters, September 2024 NYT/Siena poll: 17%

Trump's share of Latino voters, September 2020 NYT/Siena poll: 31%

Trump's share of Latino voters, September 2024 NYT/Siena poll: 42%

[jt315]

A total wall across the entire country is foolish at best, cost prohibitive at worst. Are you going to build a wall along our beaches too? Have you driven across Texas? Do you know how long this state is? Almost 1,000 miles. The US Southern Border is 2,000 miles. The US Canadian border is 4,000 miles. You are talking half the size of the Great Wall of China. Do you know how long it took to build the Great Wall? 2,000 fukking years. It takes a decade to repair a few miles of freeway and you seriously think we can build a border wall in our lifetimes?

You build a wall and people just bring a ladder or dig a hole. You build a bigger, deeper wall and people just use an air balloon. Plus a wall does not address the millions of people that enter legally and stay. A wall is one of the most stupidest ideas Trump has ever pitched but you suckers bought it.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I keep telling you that the border issue is too complicated for most people to fully understand. We MUST have immigrants into this country, legal and illegal. Neither party will tell you this but our economy would collapse without illegal immigrants. Trump knows this. Congress knows this. Trump uses it as a political weapon but he knows that we have to have the talent/labor.

Let me share with you some simple facts... Let's say you (Trump) is successful and you deport every illegal. While you and Jibbby thinks this is a good thing. Here's the real disastrous consequences...

• Removing undocumented residents from mixed-status households would reduce median household income from $41,300 to $22,000, a drop of $19,300, or 47 percent, which would plunge millions of US families into poverty. Plus the US lose this tax revenue.
• If just one-third of the US-born children of undocumented residents remained in the United States following a mass deportation program, which is a very low estimate, the cost of raising those children through their minority would total $118 billion.
• The nation’s housing market would be jeopardized because a high percentage of the 1.2 million mortgages held by households with undocumented immigrants would be in peril.
• Gross domestic product (GDP) would be reduced by 1.4 percent in the first year, and cumulative GDP would be reduced by $4.7 trillion over 10 years.

Worst of all, the cost of food would sky rocket without illegals. Who do you think pick our oranges, watermelons, wheat, corn, etc.? And this is uneducated people. Take away the technical talent and the US goes from #1 to #100 in just a few years. You ever heard of Moore's law? Technology doubles every 18 months. We will never get rid of illegals.

[DwightShrute]

A total wall across the entire country is foolish at best, cost prohibitive at worst. Are you going to build a wall along our beaches too? Have you driven across Texas? Do you know how long this state is? Almost 1,000 miles. The US Southern Border is 2,000 miles. The US Canadian border is 4,000 miles. You are talking half the size of the Great Wall of China. Do you know how long it took to build the Great Wall? 2,000 fukking years. It takes a decade to repair a few miles of freeway and you seriously think we can build a border wall in our lifetimes?

You build a wall and people just bring a ladder or dig a hole. You build a bigger, deeper wall and people just use an air balloon. Plus a wall does not address the millions of people that enter legally and stay. A wall is one of the most stupidest ideas Trump has ever pitched but you suckers bought it.

so you know better that the Border Patrol? Than ICE? Walls are a deterrent. They always have been. Are you saying walls don't serve any purpose whatsoever?

If you want to rob a home, do you choose the one with a sign saying it has a security system, its well lite up, and if has some kind of wall or do you choose the one with no lights on and the door open?

You strategically build it in places where thousands come in illegally. The walls works in conjunction with the other tools the Border patrol has. Are you fukking with me here? Other countries do it. The US taxpayer pays other countries to build a wall. They just sent 500 million to Jordan to build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants!

Are you ok with just anyone simply walking into your country without permission? What about tens of millions doing so? If you are, then you are just an asshole.

The border again says it right there, "walls work!" Like fukking DUH!

[DwightShrute]

Apparently Jim has his own show now on CNN.

[jt315]

Apparently Jim has his own show now on CNN.

If he only brought his ladder with him to prove Mac’s point .

[slewfan]

Trump won 8 years ago. He hand selected his team including his VP. He had an inner circle of people when he ran the White House. How do you reconcile that ALL the people HE CHOSE today do not endorse him? Not only do they not recommend him, they recommend AGAINST him. Do you really want to believe that they are all evil and conspired against him? What will he do different, who would he select this time if reelected?

The democrats are evil. His hand chosen were mistakes. Guess what, they all turned on him because their characters are weak. Look who Joe chose. Oh wait, Joe didn’t choose her. Obama and Pelosi did.

[Hareeba!]

A total wall across the entire country is foolish at best, cost prohibitive at worst. Are you going to build a wall along our beaches too? Have you driven across Texas? Do you know how long this state is? Almost 1,000 miles. The US Southern Border is 2,000 miles. The US Canadian border is 4,000 miles. You are talking half the size of the Great Wall of China. Do you know how long it took to build the Great Wall? 2,000 fukking years. It takes a decade to repair a few miles of freeway and you seriously think we can build a border wall in our lifetimes?

You build a wall and people just bring a ladder or dig a hole. You build a bigger, deeper wall and people just use an air balloon. Plus a wall does not address the millions of people that enter legally and stay. A wall is one of the most stupidest ideas Trump has ever pitched but you suckers bought it.

[Mac4Lyfe]

so you know better that the Border Patrol? Than ICE? Walls are a deterrent. They always have been. Are you saying walls don't serve any purpose whatsoever?

If you want to rob a home, do you choose the one with a sign saying it has a security system, its well lite up, and if has some kind of wall or do you choose the one with no lights on and the door open?

You strategically build it in places where thousands come in illegally. The walls works in conjunction with the other tools the Border patrol has. Are you fukking with me here? Other countries do it. The US taxpayer pays other countries to build a wall. They just sent 500 million to Jordan to build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants!

Are you ok with just anyone simply walking into your country without permission? What about tens of millions doing so? If you are, then you are just an asshole.

The border again says it right there, "walls work!" Like fukking DUH!

I never said walls don't work but you answered your own question. You strategically build in certain places. A blanket southern border wall ain't happening. Trump administration built 50 miles of new primary wall systems and 33 miles of new secondary systems. I don't think they added any tertiary fencing. They repaired/upgraded a lot of the existing 650 miles (about 450 miles upgraded). But he added less than 100 miles of new walls (not insignificant). Construction was halted on Trump's wall while he was in office. They ran out of funding.

I don't rob homes so I can't answer your question. I can tell you that my front and back door are both open right now. Good luck trying to enter without my permission. I turn off all my lights at night. I do not believe in contributing to light pollution. Once again, let's see what happens if someone wanted to rob my home. And I don't have a wall.

This issue is complicated. No president has been able to solve this issue. There's no easy solutions because like I continue to tell you. WE NEED ILLEGALS. We also need them to go home after they finish working. We are much better served spending money to make their countries more attractive. Spend money on building up those countries, so they don't need to stay here. The only reason illegals come here is because here is better than there. I bet people from your island come here too. If things are bad there they are going to find a way to stay here. Would you blame them?.

[Itsamazing777]

[Itsamazing777]

[slewfan]

Mac, you said : I keep telling you that the border issue is too complicated for most people to fully understand. We MUST have immigrants into this country, legal and illegal. Neither party will tell you this but our economy would collapse without illegal immigrants.


So most people don’t understand, but you know how it should be handled…

No one is arguing about immigrants. They are arguing about “illegal” criminals. Everyone understands that.