Alec Baldwin charged criminally
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ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#36Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#37If he had acted a little more like he cared, and it affected him, having shot her maybe prosecutors would not have pushed ahead?
On what we know I can't see how he is convicted..Comment -
lakerboySBR Aristocracy
- 04-02-09
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#38You would not be defending him if he was a right wing guy. Stop acting like an idiot. You have been doing it for so long.Comment -
KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-27-10
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#40
So did the gun just fire itself?Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#41
This video from back when it happened talks about reports of a prop gun going off with no one pulling the trigger twice earlier in the shoot.
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jackpot269SBR Posting Legend
- 09-24-07
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#42
Me defending a rich asshole was not my intent, what I was saying is, that investigations and prosecution should be fair and not political they should be decided by the courts instead of a sports message board
The Hypocrisy Of most because of politics is hard to understand, when it comes to criminal justice.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, one of the things that makes the USA a great country, if having an opinion makes someone an idiot then I have plenty of company including you!Comment -
BOA12SBR Posting Legend
- 02-19-12
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#43I'm defending? If the evidence supports a guilty verdict he should get what the law calls for, just like you or myself.
Me defending a rich asshole was not my intent, what I was saying is, that investigations and prosecution should be fair and not political they should be decided by the courts instead of a sports message board
The Hypocrisy Of most because of politics is hard to understand, when it comes to criminal justice.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, one of the things that makes the USA a great country, if having an opinion makes someone an idiot then I have plenty of company including you!Comment -
pimikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-23-08
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#44I read this and laugh.
This was not a prop gun
Clearly people who are against people with guns know nothing about guns how they feel how they work how heavy they are compared to toys or compared to fake guns. Oh my goodness learn something about a real firearm before you start giving your opinions anybody that has a real firearm uses real firearms would know that this was not a gun malfunction, a person pulled the trigger .
Real guns don’t go off by themselves. End of discussion.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#45I read this and laugh.
This was not a prop gun
Clearly people who are against people with guns know nothing about guns how they feel how they work how heavy they are compared to toys or compared to fake guns. Oh my goodness learn something about a real firearm before you start giving your opinions anybody that has a real firearm uses real firearms would know that this was not a gun malfunction, a person pulled the trigger .
Real guns don’t go off by themselves. End of discussion..Comment -
KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-27-10
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mama whoiscryingSBR Wise Guy
- 09-25-21
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#51could be kermit..... I think that the gun may have been handed to him with the hammer already cocked back. If thats the case the trigger squeeze required would be much less. And some that are cocked back require VERY LITTLE pressure. Thats what I think happened since he said he didn't pull the trigger. Could have simply had placed his finger on it and boom.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#52Lock him up! Mysterious bullet in gun and he pulled the trigger and was aiming at her obviously.
Celebrity hack give him hard time.Comment -
pimikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-23-08
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#53could be kermit..... I think that the gun may have been handed to him with the hammer already cocked back. If thats the case the trigger squeeze required would be much less. And some that are cocked back require VERY LITTLE pressure. Thats what I think happened since he said he didn't pull the trigger. Could have simply had placed his finger on it and boom.
I love people who know nothing about firearms guessing to defend this fool.
Just lightly touching a revolver trigger will not cause it to fire.
The trigger pull on a revolver is harder than a semiautomatic.
Just stop
He pulled the trigger
Either way he never checked the firearm for a live round.
Keep your finger off the trigger till ready to shoot.
T. Treat all firearms as if loaded
H. Handle with care
I. Identify your target and surroundings
N. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to shoot, kill or destroy
K Keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot
THINK
This would had NEVER had happened if he used the basic gun safety fundamentals!
Period
No excuses
He violated allComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#54I think Baldwin hated this chick and fired away knowing the gun was live and loaded. Easy way to get away with murder.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#55
Oh my
I love people who know nothing about firearms guessing to defend this fool.
Just lightly touching a revolver trigger will not cause it to fire.
The trigger pull on a revolver is harder than a semiautomatic.
Just stop
He pulled the trigger
Either way he never checked the firearm for a live round.
Keep your finger off the trigger till ready to shoot.
T. Treat all firearms as if loaded
H. Handle with care
I. Identify your target and surroundings
N. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to shoot, kill or destroy
K Keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot
THINK
This would had NEVER had happened if he used the basic gun safety fundamentals!
Period
No excuses
He violated all
Someone needs to check there is no wadding left in the barrel as well. Like what happened to Brandon Lee..Comment -
EbumdudeSBR MVP
- 11-15-12
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#56The armorer on set should be hammered criminally.
One thing working in favor of Baldwin, he already settled out of court with the victim’s husband. He won’t do any jail time, the on set armorer that has been known to cut corners, will.Comment -
KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-27-10
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#57Oh my
I love people who know nothing about firearms guessing to defend this fool.
Just lightly touching a revolver trigger will not cause it to fire.
The trigger pull on a revolver is harder than a semiautomatic.
Just stop
He pulled the trigger
Either way he never checked the firearm for a live round.
Keep your finger off the trigger till ready to shoot.
T. Treat all firearms as if loaded
H. Handle with care
I. Identify your target and surroundings
N. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to shoot, kill or destroy
K Keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot
THINK
This would had NEVER had happened if he used the basic gun safety fundamentals!
Period
No excuses
He violated all
This is what I am talking about. Here is a a guy firing a single action revolver without pulling the trigger.
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JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#58Baldwin lied and said he didn't pull the trigger. That is an admission of guilt by itself.. Lock him up!
Dude seems like a total agro arrogant prick.Comment -
pimikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-23-08
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#59I am not defending him, I still think he fired the gun.
This is what I am talking about. Here is a a guy firing a single action revolver without pulling the trigger.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bWNC7fu79MI
Lol
Of course it can go off. If you’re going to play with a hammer like that and a hammer doesn’t lock back in the single action position. Baldwin didn’t do that.Comment -
pimikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-23-08
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#60Not sure why people are trying to make excuses or false stories to try to give him credit the dude killed somebody. I don’t know if he did it on purpose or not that’s not for me to decide. However, the FBI have already deemed that for that particular revolver that they used. He had to pull the trigger so if you want to argue with the FBI go ahead.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#61Lock him up.. He's a dick and a half.
He was in control of the set and he had the gun in his hand pointing at this dead chick. Manslaughter charges apply here.Comment -
jackpot269SBR Posting Legend
- 09-24-07
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#62Not sure why people are trying to make excuses or false stories to try to give him credit the dude killed somebody. I don’t know if he did it on purpose or not that’s not for me to decide. However, the FBI have already deemed that for that particular revolver that they used. He had to pull the trigger so if you want to argue with the FBI go ahead.
The more money you have the more you can get away with.
All the speculation true or not, you or myself would be in deep shit!! but in the USA rich/famous people get a free pass most times.
I wasn't there didn't see it, but it probably want matter he probably walksLast edited by jackpot269; 01-24-23, 12:44 PM.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#63Yeah, he won't do jail time but Baldwin will probably get hammered in civil court.Comment -
mama whoiscryingSBR Wise Guy
- 09-25-21
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#64Oh my
I love people who know nothing about firearms guessing to defend this fool.
Just lightly touching a revolver trigger will not cause it to fire.
The trigger pull on a revolver is harder than a semiautomatic.
Just stop
He pulled the trigger
Either way he never checked the firearm for a live round.
Keep your finger off the trigger till ready to shoot.
T. Treat all firearms as if loaded
H. Handle with care
I. Identify your target and surroundings
N. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to shoot, kill or destroy
K Keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot
THINK
This would had NEVER had happened if he used the basic gun safety fundamentals!
Period
No excuses
He violated all
As if all revolvers require the same amount of trigger pull...... CHORTLE.
And me defend an idiot liberal. Not gonna happen.
If I can figure out how to post a video I'll show you how I have one of mine set. It literally is a hair trigger that after the hammer is cocked a mouse could fart next door and it'll go off.
As if trigger pull can't be adjusted.....
For those who don't know it usually doesn't take much more that a 2mm allen wrench.
Or modifying the springs.
No one knows what the amount of lbs was required on his gun. I'll stick to my original thought that not much pressure was required on the trigger in question.
In an attempt by someone as dumb as me who knows nothing about weapons let me do my best to educate those that are even less educated.
Most handguns come from the factory with trigger pull in the 12 lb area. That means (explaining for the less thans) that approximately 12 lbs of pressure is required to send a bullet down the barrel.
Once the hammer is cocked the pull on the same old trigger is reduced to approximately 4 lbs. (and that couid be much less if the trigger pull was altered)
Therefore, making a statement that lightly touch a trigger will not cause it to fire is absolutely wrong if you don't know what the trigger pull was set to.
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mama whoiscryingSBR Wise Guy
- 09-25-21
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#65Funny how some people think that just because a guy fires a gun in a movie that the same guy should be a firearms expert.
My guess is (that's right I'm simply guessing because none of us knows for sure what happened - although some of us act like it) that Alec Baldwin would not know the difference between a squib or live round.
Does that make Baldwin innocent? Nope. He was charged appropriately.Comment -
KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-27-10
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#66
I don't know what Baldwin did or didn't do.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#67
Either way Baldwin caused the gun to fire either by pulling back the hammer manually like a board retard or actually pulling the trigger while aiming at this dead hippy chick.
Why was he doing that off screen makes me wonder? It wasn't like he was filming or rehearsing a scene from what I read.Comment -
209 LifeSBR MVP
- 09-15-18
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#68What a douchebag
Alec Baldwin wants the special prosecutor in his involuntary manslaughter case removed. In Tuesday's new filing, the actor claims Andrea Reeb's status as a Republican lawmaker in the New Mexico House of Representatives is "unconstitutional" — and one legal expert says he has a point. Baldwin was formally charged last week in the fatal shooting of Rust cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins."The question is not a close one," the motion declares. "She must be disqualified."
According to the filing obtained by Yahoo Entertainment, Baldwin — who is known for his liberal views — avoided claiming politics are at play behind the decision to file criminal charges. The motion to disqualify, filed by his attorney Luke Nikas, lays out a constitutional argument.
Taryn Ryder·Writer, Yahoo Entertainment
Tue, February 7, 2023 at 2:04 PM PST
Alec Baldwin seen in New York City as he's officially charged with involuntary manslaughter for the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of the movie Rust. (Photo: Reuters)
Alec Baldwin wants the special prosecutor in his involuntary manslaughter case removed. In Tuesday's new filing, the actor claims Andrea Reeb's status as a Republican lawmaker in the New Mexico House of Representatives is "unconstitutional" — and one legal expert says he has a point. Baldwin was formally charged last week in the fatal shooting of Rust cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins.
"The question is not a close one," the motion declares. "She must be disqualified."
According to the filing obtained by Yahoo Entertainment, Baldwin — who is known for his liberal views — avoided claiming politics are at play behind the decision to file criminal charges. The motion to disqualify, filed by his attorney Luke Nikas, lays out a constitutional argument.
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"Under Section 1 of Article III of the New Mexico Constitution, however, a sitting member of the Legislature may not 'exercise any powers properly belonging' to either the executive or judicial branch," the document reads. "As a special prosecutor, Representative Reeb is vested by statute with 'all the powers and duties' of a District Attorney, who is considered to be a member of either the judicial or executive branch of the New Mexico government... Representative Reeb is therefore exercising either the executive power or the judicial power, and her continued service as a special prosecutor is unconstitutional."
Reeb, who was appointed by the District Attorney to the case, previously said Baldwin, Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed and first assistant director, David Halls are responsible for Hutchins's death.
“If any one of these three people... had done their job, Halyna Hutchins would be alive today. It's that simple," she declared last month. "The evidence clearly shows a pattern of criminal disregard for safety on the Rust film set. In New Mexico, there is no room for film sets that don’t take our state’s commitment to gun safety and public safety seriously."
The New Mexico First Judicial District Attorney calls Baldwin's new motion a distraction.
"Mr. Baldwin and his attorneys can use whatever tactics they want to distract from the fact that Halyna Hutchins died because of more than mere negligence on the Rust film set. However, the district attorney and the special prosecutor will remain focused on the evidence and on trying this case so that justice is served," spokesperson, Heather Brewer, tells Yahoo.
However, high-powered criminal defense attorney Michel Huff thinks Baldwin's motion may be granted.
"Because separation of powers is one of the bedrocks of our democracy, the New Mexico Constitution expressly forbids an individual from serving in more than one branch of government," he explains to Yahoo.
"As Baldwin argues, allowing a sitting legislator to also act as a prosecutor, essentially enforcing the very laws which she passed, would be an unconstitutional violation of this separation of powers," Huff continues. "Thus, while this is an issue that has not previously been addressed by a New Mexico court, other states have found a constitutional violation under similar circumstances, and I would expect the Court to side with Baldwin on this issue."
Baldwin is charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter. He faces up to five years behind bars if he's found guilty of the most serious offense.Comment
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