SHOOTING At OKLAHOMA Festival

[Optional]

It's an issue of following things to their logical conclusions. Ban semi-auto rifles to cut down on mass shootings when a very small % of mass shootings are due to semi-auto rifles and what happens? They have to start banning more guns. Biden is now talking about banning 9mm guns, which is the 3rd smallest centerfire handgun cartridge.

Complete opposite of what happened in Australia over the 30 years since gun laws came in.

I am not aware of any extra guns added to ban list, and requirements to own one have become easier.


None of the panic merchant predictions some Americans make have come true.

It's easy to own a gun if you don't have a criminal record.

The bad guys have not taken advantage of being only ones with guns and mug/rob us all more.

Teenage suicides dropped like a rock and weirdly they did not just change to knives for that.

But most of all, mass shootings happening every year for the 20 prior suddenly stopped. Full stop. And never came back.

Add on to that that shooters support the laws and even our version of the NRA thinks they are the best and most workable gun laws in the world.


Now go ahead and tell me your piece of paper that is nothing more than an amendment that was added once and can be changed any time is more important for you to fight for than that potential result?

Or that your delusion is "logical conclusion" again.

[Ian]

Another mass shooting in Oklahoma. This time in a medical center. 4 people dead.

[pavyracer]

Another mass shooting in Oklahoma. This time in a medical center. 4 people dead.

Maybe the guy was charged too much for mental health evaluation by the medical center and he went bananas.

Remember the guns are not the problem but access to affordable mental health is a problem.

[The Kraken]

Black male so your redneck joke just makes you look like an ignorant leftist tool

Wow, someone is sensitive over uncles being dads

50/50 Dlow is the next incel redneck to shoot a school up

[Optional]

Wow, someone is sensitive over uncles being dads

50/50 Dlow is the next incel redneck to shoot a school up

Dlowilly seems a lot calmer these days.

Might want to keep an eye on The Rifleman though.

[The Kraken]

Dlowilly seems a lot calmer these days.

Might want to keep an eye on The Rifleman though.

Wow, the younger Dlow was unhinged. We'll take this tamer version.

Side note

Turns put the roctor killed yesterday was an orthopedic spine surgeon. My guess, patient had back pain, got surgery, still had vack pain and was cut off pain meds. Bang, lost his shit.

Same thing erytime

[JIBBBY]

Another mass shooting in Oklahoma. This time in a medical center. 4 people dead.

That was a black dude with a long rifle this time. Mass shooters come in all races and colors there you go!

Don't know why racial profiling is so important in the fake news and with Democrats?

[Optional]

That was a black dude with a long rifle this time. Mass shooters come in all races and colors there you go!

Don't know why racial profiling is so important in the fake news and with Democrats?

It's just their part of the keep them divided strategy both sides do together.

Ya know, like damn kids dieing in mass shootings is just a plot to take away yer guns works to fire up the other 50%.


One choice is to ignore both sides obvious manipulation talking points.

[capitalist pig]

It was a black guy who shot the black dr who performed back surgery on him, guy claimed he has been in constant pain since the surgery, he wanted more treatment but was denied for whatever reason. Just more black on black crime

[capitalist pig]

Maybe the guy was charged too much for mental health evaluation by the medical center and he went bananas.

Remember the guns are not the problem but access to affordable mental health is a problem.

There never used to be a mental health issue, they were just put away in institutions and left there to die, sometimes what’s old and proven should be done again. Of course now everything is blamed on mental health issues which is a farce, most of it comes back to lack of parenting

[dlowilly]

Wow, someone is sensitive over uncles being dads

50/50 Dlow is the next incel redneck to shoot a school up

Wow, someone is sensitive over getting exposed as a silly fool

50/50 Krakincel is the next sbr gender fluid poster to either snip off his microbits and transition or get nabbed for highly inappropriate laptop contents

[pavyracer]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-arrest-16-old-tip-135536966.html

Police arrest 16-year-old after tip he was recruiting students for California mass shooting

[JIBBBY]

^^ Glad to see they are now catching shooters before they shoot. See something say something might be working now!

[hehfest]

They are trying to move the decision-making process for whom can own "arms" over to shrinks then? If one has to judge the mental well-being of a potential gun owner or one that already owns......this puts guns in the hands of ..........."Trust the Science" like Covid-19-99. "Trust the doctors". That all-encompassing umbrella.

Example: This guy doesn't want a vaccine for COVID, Monkeypox, etc. This guy thinks the election was rigged for the Pedophile Biden Marxist Regime. Well, the psychologist has determined he is then mentally ill and not fit to have "arms". Said psychologist, for the most part, are liberals or liberal-minded. Hence, they already likely don't think there should be "arms" in society. Hence, they can "pick and choose" who they think can have them. And, I must wonder, who might tell them who can have "arms" as well. I.E. ~ Trudeau doesn't like you......NO arms.

[guitarjosh]

Complete opposite of what happened in Australia over the 30 years since gun laws came in.

I am not aware of any extra guns added to ban list, and requirements to own one have become easier.


None of the panic merchant predictions some Americans make have come true.

It's easy to own a gun if you don't have a criminal record.

The bad guys have not taken advantage of being only ones with guns and mug/rob us all more.

Teenage suicides dropped like a rock and weirdly they did not just change to knives for that.

But most of all, mass shootings happening every year for the 20 prior suddenly stopped. Full stop. And never came back.

Add on to that that shooters support the laws and even our version of the NRA thinks they are the best and most workable gun laws in the world.


Now go ahead and tell me your piece of paper that is nothing more than an amendment that was added once and can be changed any time is more important for you to fight for than that potential result?

Or that your delusion is "logical conclusion" again.

Australia just put the vast majority of its citizens under house arrest due to Covid.

Isn't it true that you must show a reason to own a gun, and self defense isn't one of them? Go ahead and show hard evidence that it's easy to own a gun if you don't have a criminal record. What kind of gun? It looks like gun ownership has fallen precipitously since they were banned.

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/04/28/new-gun-ownership-figures-revealed-25-years-on-from-port-arthur.html

Does Australia have a major political party that claims that no rights, like the right to an impartial jury, the right to an attorney, the right to not be tortured isn't absolute? Does it have a party that wants to eliminate all checks and balances, separation of powers, and minority rights like America does? Does it have a major political party that routinely refers to citizens who disagree with it as people that our military has had a policy to kill on sight or people who are guilty of a crime so awful it is eligible to be punished by death? America has that.

Our guns are the last check and balance. At the end of the day, if people on the left were good people, who argued in good faith, who didn't want to see the people they disagree with suffer, I wouldn't be such a 2nd Amendment absolutist.

[Fred The Hammer]

There never used to be a mental health issue, they were just put away in institutions and left there to die, sometimes what’s old and proven should be done again. Of course now everything is blamed on mental health issues which is a farce, most of it comes back to lack of parenting

Maybe its because they didn't want to be parents in the first place.

ABORT THOSE UNWANTED MF'ers. We need more abortions not less

1. More abortions not less since most of these dumbshits can't parent for shit

2. 21 age requirement

3. Increase reward money and make it easier to report threats which happen beforehand 90% of the time.

[capitalist pig]

Maybe its because they didn't want to be parents in the first place.

ABORT THOSE UNWANTED MF'ers. We need more abortions not less

If the federal government would quit paying poor people who/to have kids they might think about using birth control, it’s Fukin crazy that the more kids you produce the more government money you get.

[hehfest]

Australia just put the vast majority of its citizens under house arrest due to Covid.

Isn't it true that you must show a reason to own a gun, and self defense isn't one of them? Go ahead and show hard evidence that it's easy to own a gun if you don't have a criminal record. What kind of gun? It looks like gun ownership has fallen precipitously since they were banned.

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/04/28/new-gun-ownership-figures-revealed-25-years-on-from-port-arthur.html

Does Australia have a major political party that claims that no rights, like the right to an impartial jury, the right to an attorney, the right to not be tortured isn't absolute? Does it have a party that wants to eliminate all checks and balances, separation of powers, and minority rights like America does? Does it have a major political party that routinely refers to citizens who disagree with it as people that our military has had a policy to kill on sight or people who are guilty of a crime so awful it is eligible to be punished by death? America has that.

Our guns are the last check and balance. At the end of the day, if people on the left were good people, who argued in good faith, who didn't want to see the people they disagree with suffer, I wouldn't be such a 2nd Amendment absolutist.

Did Australia have gun violence in their major cities like Detroit, Chicago, etc....... before the gun bans? Let's take Chicago. The #1 homicide city in the USA. Take the total population of Chicago and the homicides and you have your murder rate. Tell me Optional, did ANYTHING resemble Chicago in Australia pre-gun ban? If not, you need to go back to the drawing board.

I have no problem with guns coming out of the hands of criminals as long as the good guys get to keep them. And keep what they have and even have automatic weapons as well. Bazookas. Whatever.

[Fred The Hammer]

Why does Chicago always get brought up? Nobody cares if hood rats shoot each other. They don't care so why should we. That has zero to do with school shootings and gunman running loose with rifles.


2019 stats:

Chicago 18.26 murders per 100K

St Louis 64.54 per 100K so St Louis is 3.5 times worse. Get off Chicago's back. Their crips/bloods are lightweights


By the way NYC is never at the top in gun deaths. Strict gun laws. Its hell on earth and crazy MFers might push you (or an Asian) in front of a subway, but you won't get shot.

The only cities in Northeast America that I can see is Philly and Buffalo. Why? Because they have stricter gun laws. Its not rocket science.

My Dad keeps dragging me to Golden Corral Why is Indiana always at the top of the fattest states? Because fat fks keep going to places like Golden Corral. I bet they don't even have fat fk buffets in California, Colorado, or Washington state. Again not rocket science

[hehfest]

EDIT: To Zipliner!

[Optional]

Australia just put the vast majority of its citizens under house arrest due to Covid.

[snip rest of the idiocy].

^^^ You complete frigging idiot.

No, that's not true.

[Optional]

Did Australia have gun violence in their major cities like Detroit, Chicago, etc....... before the gun bans? Let's take Chicago. The #1 homicide city in the USA. Take the total population of Chicago and the homicides and you have your murder rate. Tell me Optional, did ANYTHING resemble Chicago in Australia pre-gun ban? If not, you need to go back to the drawing board.

I have no problem with guns coming out of the hands of criminals as long as the good guys get to keep them. And keep what they have and even have automatic weapons as well. Bazookas. Whatever.

Yeah we had a lot of gun violence before the laws. It had actually been tending down anyway since the 1970s but armed robberies where normal almost everywhere.

I don't think we have ever really had a big murder problem, but armed robberies, young male suicide and accidental deaths where really normal even in quiet suburban areas.



I don't care what USA chooses to do with your laws. But it seems kind of dumb to stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to even look at the most successful gun laws in the world for potential ideas.

[Optional]

Why does Chicago always get brought up? Nobody cares if hood rats shoot each other. They don't care so why should we. That has zero to do with school shootings and gunman running loose with rifles.

I agree. Gangsters and bikie gangs still shoot each other a lot here too.

But who cares if they cull those numbers?!

No Mass Shootings is the result that should matter about Australia.... "how da fugg did they do that?" seems like the only question people should be asking about down under in relation to the Texas shooting.

[hehfest]

Yeah we had a lot of gun violence before the laws. It had actually been tending down anyway since the 1970s but armed robberies where normal almost everywhere.

I don't think we have ever really had a big murder problem, but armed robberies, young male suicide and accidental deaths where really normal even in quiet suburban areas.



I don't care what USA chooses to do with your laws. But it seems kind of dumb to stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to even look at the most successful gun laws in the world for potential ideas.

Fair enough. I consider our 2nd amendmant was put in place to protect the people against a tyrannical government. The founding fathers experienced this under the British Lizards and put this in place to make sure the government is checked and if it were to become tyrannical again it would be taken down violently if it can't be peacefully first. Its way passed that now anyway as they do whatever they want without any citizen approval.

Therefore, they can figure out some solutions on how to stop the shootings without infringing on the rights guaranteed under the Constitution.

Biden says Second Amendment is 'not absolute’
in call to reinstate assault weapons ban (So, The
Constitution Is Not Absolute And Our Founding
Fathers Were Idiots) - Guns Are To Protect The
PEOPLE From Tyrannical Government & Lunatics

[The Kraken]

Any amendment can be appealed. 2a is not a birthright or a god given right, its a privilege.

Cluld black powder guns defend afainst a tyrannical govt back in the 1700's??? Prolly so

Could all the guns in the US stop a tyrannical govt in 2022??? Not even close

Guns have a single function now in America.... $$$$$$$$

Thats it, nothing more. 99.9% of people that buy them for "self-defense" never need it

A lot of the profits the gun manufacturers make go into pro-2a marketing campaigns, lobbyist, GOP pockets

And round and round it goes

Your "right" is nothing more than a huge scheme sucking money out of idiots and its more likely the gun you bought is used in a school shooting than you ever defending yourself with it

[edawg]

Any amendment can be appealed. 2a is not a birthright or a god given right, its a privilege.

Cluld black powder guns defend afainst a tyrannical govt back in the 1700's??? Prolly so

Could all the guns in the US stop a tyrannical govt in 2022??? Not even close

Guns have a single function now in America.... $$$$$$$$

Thats it, nothing more. 99.9% of people that buy them for "self-defense" never need it

A lot of the profits the gun manufacturers make go into pro-2a marketing campaigns, lobbyist, GOP pockets

And round and round it goes

Your "right" is nothing more than a huge scheme sucking money out of idiots and its more likely the gun you bought is used in a school shooting than you ever defending yourself with it

Literally everything you said is wrong.

[Fred The Hammer]

Literally everything you said is wrong.

How so? If you regularly need guns and I mean multiple guns for home defense then maybe moving is a better idea then buying more guns.
That fkn old man that slaughtered 58 in Las Vegas had 30-40 guns with bump stocks and everything else. Dumbfk Donnie Trump Jr said the same old shit the other night after Uvalde. "They could've been killed with a bat" or whatever. How is a 65 yr old man going to kill 58 from across the street with a bat? Who's attacking this MFer where he needs 30 guns? Home defense? Against who? The 82nd Airborne out of Fort Bragg?

Oh we need guns against this horrible tyrannical government. LMAO. Like someones gun collection could match up vs a military force. So a group of outraged preppers are going to sack up and take on the government in a firefight with tanks, drones, air strikes, etc. Riiiiiight
Turn off the Arnold movie and go to bed

[edawg]

How so? If you regularly need guns and I mean multiple guns for home defense then maybe moving is a better idea then buying more guns.
That fkn old man that slaughtered 58 in Las Vegas had 30-40 guns with bump stocks and everything else. Dumbfk Donnie Trump Jr said the same old shit the other night after Uvalde. "They could've been killed with a bat" or whatever. How is a 65 yr old man going to kill 58 from across the street with a bat? Who's attacking this MFer where he needs 30 guns? Home defense? Against who? The 82nd Airborne out of Fort Bragg?

Oh we need guns against this horrible tyrannical government. LMAO. Like someones gun collection could match up vs a military force. So a group of outraged preppers are going to sack up and take on the government in a firefight with tanks, drones, air strikes, etc. Riiiiiight
Turn off the Arnold movie and go to bed

You know how I feel about Arnold. Movies, video games, and social media are a big part of the problem. Agree with you on home defense which is another media driven fear making people believe that someone is going to break in their house and murder them when 99.9% it is just some druggie or stupid teen looking to steal. Don't care if anybody has guns or not but anything they want too take away from common everyday people and keep for themselves I will always be against it.

[pavyracer]

How so? If you regularly need guns and I mean multiple guns for home defense then maybe moving is a better idea then buying more guns.
That fkn old man that slaughtered 58 in Las Vegas had 30-40 guns with bump stocks and everything else. Dumbfk Donnie Trump Jr said the same old shit the other night after Uvalde. "They could've been killed with a bat" or whatever. How is a 65 yr old man going to kill 58 from across the street with a bat? Who's attacking this MFer where he needs 30 guns? Home defense? Against who? The 82nd Airborne out of Fort Bragg?

Oh we need guns against this horrible tyrannical government. LMAO. Like someones gun collection could match up vs a military force. So a group of outraged preppers are going to sack up and take on the government in a firefight with tanks, drones, air strikes, etc. Riiiiiight
Turn off the Arnold movie and go to bed

There are crazy people in every country. But the vast majority of mass murders happen in the US because of the lax purchasing gun laws.

Yes a crazy person in Uganda can go to a public place and start hitting people with a bat but eventually he will be subdued or get tired or get killed before he kills dozens in minutes.

So having restrictions or red flag laws or some type of a mechanism to better identify crazy people is a must. If a family man goes to a gun store and says I want to buy an AR-15 because I want to better protect his family I'm fine with it as long a as background chack is done to see if he is mentally fit or he is a felon.

But when an 18 year old with no job, a high school dropout and no money walks in a store with cash to buy two AR-15s the gun store owner should be required to notify authorities to investigate for red flags instead of focusing on the quick sale of the guns to make profit.

[edawg]

There are crazy people in every country. But the vast majority of mass murders happen in the US because of the lax purchasing gun laws.

Yes a crazy person in Uganda can go to a public place and start hitting people with a bat but eventually he will be subdued or get tired or get killed before he kills dozens in minutes.

So having restrictions or red flag laws or some type of a mechanism to better identify crazy people is a must. If a family man goes to a gun store and says I want to buy an AR-15 because I want to better protect his family I'm fine with it as long a as background chack is done to see if he is mentally fit or he is a felon.

But when an 18 year old with no job, a high school dropout and no money walks in a store with cash to buy two AR-15s the gun store owner should be required to notify authorities to investigate for red flags instead of focusing on the quick sale of the guns to make profit.

Need common sense people not laws.

[pavyracer]

Need common sense people not laws.

A law to notify the police to investigate an 18 year old buying assault weapons is common sense.

You can't rely in the common sense of a crazy person to not buy guns to kill children. That ship has already sailed.

[edawg]

A law to notify the police to investigate an 18 year old buying assault weapons is common sense.

You can't rely in the common sense of a crazy person to not buy guns to kill children. That ship has already sailed.

You want to stop shots that kill people with an unstoppable lobby behind them look into Big Pharma not Guns!

[pavyracer]

You want to stop shots that kill people with an unstoppable lobby behind them look into Big Pharma not Guns!

Big Pharma has already been taimed. They are paying billions to states for the opioid and prescription pill crisis and the pharmacies are next in line. Doctors have been put to jail for phony prescriptions.

[DwightShrute]

Bro, I hear about little kids getting shot in Detroit on a daily/weekly basis. Now, I just can't argue this shit with retards anymore but if they take away or ban all guns.......we all know there will still be guns. And, we all know who will have those guns......criminals. Guess what? The streets of Detroit will still have guns no matter what they do. Guess what? Those shootings won't stop now will they? Guess what? They can GFThemselves if they think people want to accept a gun ban. Plus, they WON'T be banning guns for the guvehmant. They will still have them........you won't.

Guess what all you retarded ban assault rifle/assault weapons people? 9mm firearms have EDIT: 18) round mags. You can have unlimited magazines and its a fast re-load. So, how does the AR-15 matter at close range inside a school? It doesn't. This is bullshit. You can mow people down with a handgun at close range.

What's next? Can only have 1 magazine with 6 rounds? GFY dumbasses. You don't need an AR for a close-range school shooting. So, my point? They would have to ban ALL guns.

Meanwhile, Nancy "the corpse" Pelosi has armed guards. Rich elites have armed guards. They will STILL have armed guards somehow after they ban guns from broke dikk.

Sorry faggots. No compromise. I'm not buying it. And faggots.........go eat some Alphabet cereal while you're at it.

Good-bye retards have a good night!

Nancy should ban her armed guards from using any of those weapons or ammo from those new proposed rules. You know, lead by example. You know, like drinking and driving. Wait. Never mind.

Speaking of driving dunk, isn't it strange no mugshots have been released of Mr. Pelosi after his DUI a week ago? Probably the camera malfunctioned or the cleaning lady threw them away accidentally.

[DwightShrute]

Big Pharma has already been taimed. They are paying billions to states for the opioid and prescription pill crisis and the pharmacies are next in line. Doctors have been put to jail for phony prescriptions.

and yet over 100,000 Americans died last year from overdoses. Just let them cross into the country illegally and lets give them all smartphones. Border security, pffft, who needs it? Its not like the criminals will come in.


Just take your vaccine and your boosters and blame Putin and watch CNN and men can compete with women and teach kids about transcending in kindergarten and Joe Rogan took horse medicine and the last election was the most secure in history and America is a racist country and Jan 6th! and Trump told you to drink bleach and the Hunter laptop story was Russian disinformation and defund the Police and Joe Biden is smart and Kamala is brilliant and White Supremacy is a huge problem and inflation is a good thing and remember its pride month all month long.