Vaccines were the last hope

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by PromiseLand

Curious To know where you get that 4 out of 10k number. https://abc7news.com/covid-immunity-...cted/10936598/

That is misleading AF. The study said that if you were infected and not vaxxed then you were 2x as likely to be reinfected than if you were infected and not vaxxed.

EITHER WAY the chance is infinitesimally small!

82k suspected reinfections out of over 205mm cases. That’s .04% or 4 in 10,000

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and the look at this:

Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 10:31 AM

look ^^^

I don’t make shit up.

Originally posted by vitterd

He made it up

**lakerboy** · 08-21-21, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

My fully vaccinated son (Phizer) just got released from the hospital. 3rd time he has had Covid. Throat was almost completely shut. He is a 19 y/o college athlete in tremendous shape with no underlying conditions.

Im 49, fully vaccinated (Moderna) overweight, and I am asymptomatic positive.

Just goes to show you we all have no idea of how, when, why, etc.

Scary stuff

Best of luck to your son.

**MinnesotaFats** · 08-21-21, 10:33 AM

Masks policy fail too

Most face masks won't stop COVID-19 indoors, study warns

https://www.studyfinds.org/masks-wont-stop-covid-indoors/

Despite wearing a face mask, the study finds a large buildup of aerosol droplets suspended in the air coming from wearers.

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 10:34 AM

You need a subscription but this one talks about how much better natural immunity is than vax:

wsj.com

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-herd-provincetown-mayo-delta-mask-mandate-vaccine-passport-cdc-mucosal-immunity-11629128219

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

My fully vaccinated son (Phizer) just got released from the hospital. 3rd time he has had Covid. Throat was almost completely shut. He is a 19 y/o college athlete in tremendous shape with no underlying conditions.

Im 49, fully vaccinated (Moderna) overweight, and I am asymptomatic positive.

Just goes to show you we all have no idea of how, when, why, etc.

Scary stuff

I second Laker, best wishes to your son, Joe. I hope you don’t take offense to anything I am posting here.

**lakerboy** · 08-21-21, 10:36 AM

Grease good to see you around. How you been?

**homie1975** · 08-21-21, 10:37 AM

as long as vaxx eligible but still UNVAXXED are not allowed a hospital bed or a vent, i am okay with letting them die at home or in a local park or wherever.

STAY THE EFF out of the hospitals if you are unvaxxed.

survival of the fittest (and the VAXXED)

you have been driving 20Y but only have two small fender bender accidents in that time however you still drive with a seat belt on.

WHYYYYYYY

(you can drive without it on and only wear it when you see a cop)

try that.

**homie1975** · 08-21-21, 10:38 AM

if you are Unvaxxed though you are Vaxx eligible, STAY OUT OF A HOSPITAL if you get sick.

you are taking the bed/vent away from someone who is vaxxed but had a rare breakthrough case,

or maybe someone who is Vaxxed but had another issue like a heart attack and they need a bed

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Grease good to see you around. How you been?

Good as I can be. Busy as hell. Hope to spend more time with sports than I have been. Thanks, hope you’re doing well yourself.

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

if you are Unvaxxed though you are Vaxx eligible, STAY OUT OF A HOSPITAL if you get sick.

Noyou are taking the bed/vent away from someone who is vaxxed but had a rare breakthrough case,

or maybe someone who is Vaxxed but had another issue like a heart attack and they need a bed

That is straight up immoral AF. And I am vaccinated, for the record.

Also, breakthrough infections are not all that rare. I know two people that are sick with them right now as we speak.

**homie1975** · 08-21-21, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

Good as I can be. Busy as hell. Hope to spend more time with sports than I have been. Thanks, hope you’re doing well yourself.

Greaser
Doctors and nurses i know pissed off as hellll at Non Vaxxed, and the stress it is putting on the system.

i say people who still at this point do not wish to Vaxx, no problem.

but if they get sick and are tested positive for Covid, no hospital visit allowed for them.

simple.

i think it's fair.

they made their choice - the system should be allowed to make their as well on who they will treat.

**homie1975** · 08-21-21, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

That is straight up immoral AF. And I am vaccinated, for the record.

Also, breakthrough infections are not all that rare. I know two people that are sick with them right now as we speak.

it is reality Greaser

coming straight from the grills of Docs and Nurses i know

**ThaTopMoron** · 08-21-21, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Nobody is immune

SBR has the dumbest posters alive

i haven't even had the common cold going back the past 20 months

penetrate the jab and penetrate masks... don't need that BS they don't stop shit anyways

anybody who is past a certain age or has had bad luck with health issues over the years or whose immune system is poor/compromised can go right ahead and get the jab and wear a mask whenever they please

leave the rest of us alone... plexiglass is still up everywhere and automatic hand sanitizer stations are also everywhere to protect/appease the state group of people above

eating a healthy mix of fruit/veggies and nuts as i type this and drinking natural spring water.... prep work to have boundless amounts of energy for tonight's beach volleyball tournament in Columbus ... where NOBODY will HAVE A MASK ON... thank you Columbus

**PromiseLand** · 08-21-21, 10:51 AM

Thanks for the links Grease. Good stuff

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

it is reality Greaser

coming straight from the grills of Docs and Nurses i know

Just because they are docs and nurses doesn’t give them the right to choose who should receive care and who should not. The idea that they should have the right to choose is completely ridiculous.

Anyway, I am out fellas, playing in a scramble today

**ThaTopMoron** · 08-21-21, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Nobody is immune

SBR has the dumbest posters alive

how old are you JJ? you need every shot and booster you can get your hands on pal

did anyone take you to their county fair in recent weeks and show you off to crowds/ FFA judges??? just wondering

**ThaTopMoron** · 08-21-21, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

it is reality Greaser

coming straight from the grills of Docs and Nurses i know

lol if that actually happened all that would do is setup the rest of the family to have grounds for an epic lawsuit and settlement

**lakerboy** · 08-21-21, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

Just because they are docs and nurses doesn’t give them the right to choose who should receive care and who should not. The idea that they should have the right to choose is completely ridiculous.

Anyway, I am out fellas, playing in a scramble today

God forbid doctors stop treating people unhealthy choices like drinking, smoking and bad eating choices. Notice how no one has encouraged people to get healthy?

**homie1975** · 08-21-21, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

God forbid doctors stop treating people unhealthy choices like drinking, smoking and bad eating choices. Notice how no one has encouraged people to get healthy?

Very good point

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

God forbid doctors stop treating people unhealthy choices like drinking, smoking and bad eating choices. Notice how no one has encouraged people to get healthy?

Yes, of course. Deblasio telling people to stay inside and eat pizza and hamburgers.

Laker always one of the sharpest here.

I thought (hoped) flyingillini was wrong at the beginning but the more time that passes, I am afraid he got a lot right.

**Hman** · 08-21-21, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Yes. Put the scientists and doctors to the side that have spent their whole lives studying the virus and replace them with politicians who don't know shit. .

You mean the same doctors & scientists that still can't even cure the common effing cold??

The same doctors and scientists who tell you certain foods are good for you, the couple years later change their mind and say they are bad for you, and then repeat again??

They definitely aren't Gods and they aren't right all of the time if even half of the time.

We are far more advanced in other technologies than we are the medical field.

It's common knowledge & you don't' have to be a dr or scientist that virtually everything regarding health & medicines take years to monitor and test to work out the kinks.

No difference with this vaccine that is brand new some ppl push on others.

**pavyracer** · 08-21-21, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Hman

You mean the same doctors & scientists that still can't even cure the common effing cold??

The same doctors and scientists who tell you certain foods are good for you, the couple years later change their mind and say they are bad for you, and then repeat again??

They definitely aren't Gods and they aren't right all of the time if even half of the time.

We are far more advanced in other technologies than we are the medical field.

It's common knowledge & you don't' have to be a dr or scientist that virtually everything regarding health & medicines take years to monitor and test to work out the kinks.

No difference with this vaccine that is brand new some ppl push on others.

When you get sick do you call a doctor or a politician?

When your house has a water leak do you call a plumber or a politician?

**jtoler** · 08-21-21, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

When you get sick do you call a doctor or a politician?

When your house has a water leak do you call a plumber or a politician?

thats your logic?

**mngambler** · 08-21-21, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

if you are Unvaxxed though you are Vaxx eligible, STAY OUT OF A HOSPITAL if you get sick.

you are taking the bed/vent away from someone who is vaxxed but had a rare breakthrough case,

or maybe someone who is Vaxxed but had another issue like a heart attack and they need a bed

shut the f*ck up homo

**big joe 1212** · 08-21-21, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

I second Laker, best wishes to your son, Joe. I hope you don’t take offense to anything I am posting here.

Thank you all for the well wishes!

No, I don’t take any offense to anything said about vaccines. I was really big on vaccines, but lately, not so sure anymore. I know a lot of vaccinated people who have gotten sick still, a handful hospitalized, and 1 died (80 y/o though). But me, I’ll still get vaccine/booster if available. Im assuming being vaccinated myself is why I haven’t gotten sick yet. I might be just lucky, might be genetics, who knows…

**Hman** · 08-21-21, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

When you get sick do you call a doctor or a politician?

When your house has a water leak do you call a plumber or a politician?

I guess I misread

But you're right.

So why should we be listening to a president or govt pushing us to take a vaccine?

They're throwing darts right now and we are the targets

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

Thank you all for the well wishes!

No, I don’t take any offense to anything said about vaccines. I was really big on vaccines, but lately, not so sure anymore. I know a lot of vaccinated people who have gotten sick still, a handful hospitalized, and 1 died (80 y/o though). But me, I’ll still get vaccine/booster if available. Im assuming being vaccinated myself is why I haven’t gotten sick yet. I might be just lucky, might be genetics, who knows…

Or could be cross-immunity from other corona viruses you’ve been exposed to in the past.

I remember you from Vegas, good dude.

**jjgold** · 08-21-21, 12:06 PM

Get Vaccinated

Wear your mask do not be a jerkoff

**pavyracer** · 08-21-21, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Hman

I guess I misread

But you're right.

So why should we be listening to a president or govt pushing us to take a vaccine?

They're throwing darts right now and we are the targets

Do not listen to the president. Listen to your doctor. I made my decision to get the vaccine after talking with my doctor. I did not make my decision based on what Biden or Trump said.

**grease lightnin** · 08-21-21, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Get Vaccinated

Wear your mask do not be a jerkoff

Another great book recommendation:

How to be a jerkoff, By JJ Gold

**homie1975** · 08-21-21, 12:41 PM

let the Unvaxxed pay the price for their decisions. simple as that.

i can understand waiting and not being the first in line (I just got jabbed last month after waiting for more than half the population to) but at this point if someone still thinks the Vaxx is unsafe or whatever reason they don't want it, no problem.

take your chances and if you make it out alive, great, if not, that is great too. the latter probably better for humanity overall.

the truth hurts.

**ronald** · 08-21-21, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

God forbid doctors stop treating people unhealthy choices like drinking, smoking and bad eating choices. Notice how no one has encouraged people to get healthy?

Bingo.

Being healthy is the best way to prevent negative outcomes from Covid and most other ailments.

Does Fauci ever go on TV and tell people to lose weight? No.

Why is that?

Follow the money and the power to find the obvious answer.

**thechaoz** · 08-21-21, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

Natural immunity is real.

You're smarter than this greaser and you know it.

**BeatTheJerk** · 08-21-21, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Get Vaccinated

Wear your mask do not be a jerkoff

What month did you get vaccinated ?