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  • PackerBacker
    SBR Sharp
    • 08-17-11
    • 387

    #1
    The Afghanistan debacle. I was wrong and I admit it…
    I said it would take about 48 hours for both the administration and Main Stream media to spin the narrative away from Bidden and put the blame on both Trump and past Presidents. It took 4 hours.
  • Roger T. Bannon
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-28-18
    • 5139

    #2
    Well they did have 20 years. Did not accomplish much. At least Biden is smart enough to be done with it. We got our ass kicked in Vietnam. We got our ass kicked in Iraq and we got it kicked in Afghanistan.
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    • mngambler
      SBR MVP
      • 08-01-11
      • 2890

      #3
      Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
      Well they did have 20 years. Did not accomplish much. At least Biden is smart enough to be done with it. We got our ass kicked in Vietnam. We got our ass kicked in Iraq and we got it kicked in Afghanistan.
      ya the exit is going reallllll well isn't it? leaving americans stranded...you're as dumb as the president
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      • Roger T. Bannon
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-28-18
        • 5139

        #4
        Originally posted by mngambler
        ya the exit is going reallllll well isn't it? leaving americans stranded...you're as dumb as the president
        Have any Americans died so far. Rs had 20 years to get this right. They screwed it up over and over. The game is over. The Taliban was going to take over. If the Afghans do not want to be ruled by the Taliban, they will get rid of them.
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        • VeggieDog
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-21-09
          • 7214

          #5
          Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
          Have any Americans died so far. Rs had 20 years to get this right. They screwed it up over and over. The game is over. The Taliban was going to take over. If the Afghans do not want to be ruled by the Taliban, they will get rid of them.
          Huh?
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          • Roger T. Bannon
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-28-18
            • 5139

            #6
            Originally posted by VeggieDog
            Huh?
            It was Bush's war. The generals were Rs. It was all Republican strategy. Obama did not have the guts to get out. Biden at least is ending it. Rs strategy is to stay there forever. Even Trump was smart enough to get out. We do not care anymore if the Taliban overruns them. That is part of the process. Afghanistan is being left to the Afghans. We were not liberators.
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            • mngambler
              SBR MVP
              • 08-01-11
              • 2890

              #7
              Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
              Have any Americans died so far. Rs had 20 years to get this right. They screwed it up over and over. The game is over. The Taliban was going to take over. If the Afghans do not want to be ruled by the Taliban, they will get rid of them.
              none of that has to do with how bad sleepy creepy president child sniffer has completely f*cked up this withdrawal, leaving thousands stranded
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              • PackerBacker
                SBR Sharp
                • 08-17-11
                • 387

                #8
                [QUOTESee =Roger T. Bannon;30478442]Well they did have 20 years. Did not accomplish much. At least Biden is smart enough to be done with it. We got our ass kicked in Vietnam. We got our ass kicked in Iraq and we got it kicked in Afghanistan.[/QUOTE]

                See what I mean, exactly to my point.
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                • fudy213
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 08-12-11
                  • 158

                  #9
                  We should have gotten out when Bin Laden was killed. Why did we stay? Because Afghanistan is a shithole? Its always been a shithole. As long as it is ruled by Afghan men it will be a shithole. It isnt and was never a threat to the US. Biden did the right thing in getting out, he just mucked up the operation royally. The people that needed to get out should have been out weeks ago. The scenes at the airport never should have happened, it made us look like complete boobs.
                  It proves that Americas best and brightest dont go into politics. We are a great people. We are a good people. We are led by fools.
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                  • MinnesotaFats
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-18-10
                    • 14758

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fudy213
                    We should have gotten out when Bin Laden was killed. Why did we stay? Because Afghanistan is a shithole? Its always been a shithole. As long as it is ruled by Afghan men it will be a shithole. It isnt and was never a threat to the US. Biden did the right thing in getting out, he just mucked up the operation royally. The people that needed to get out should have been out weeks ago. The scenes at the airport never should have happened, it made us look like complete boobs.
                    It proves that Americas best and brightest dont go into politics. We are a great people. We are a good people. We are led by fools.
                    We stayed as a humanitarian effort, to spread civil rights, create infrastructure.

                    Bush, Obama and Trump were all respected and feared abroad...we didn't need an army presence to control the region because the threat was real.

                    Biden is so weak and so disrespected abroad it took 180 days to flush 20 years of progress down the drain and turn Afghanistan back to the stone age
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                    • fudy213
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 08-12-11
                      • 158

                      #11
                      [QUOTE=MinnesotaFats;30478655]We stayed as a humanitarian effort, to spread civil rights, create infrastructure.

                      Bush, Obama and Trump were all respected and feared abroad...we didn't need an army presence to control the region because the threat was real.

                      Biden is so weak and so disrespected abroad it took 180 days to flush 20 years of progress down the drain and turn There was no progress. Afghanistan has always been in the stone age. The fact that the taliban controlled the entire country within hours of us leaving is testament to that.
                      Watch this on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4JxWNf_9JM very enlightening.

                      Nation building is not a reason for war. Afghanistan will never be Denmark no matter how powerful our army or how much money we pour in.

                      Biden had the right idea, he just F'D it up because he is an F'up.
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                      • semibluff
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-12-16
                        • 1515

                        #12
                        https://www.usaid.gov/afghanistan/infrastructure

                        Good luck with the 3 solar power plants and the wind farm.
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                        • MinnesotaFats
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-18-10
                          • 14758

                          #13
                          [QUOTE=fudy213;30478766]
                          Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                          We stayed as a humanitarian effort, to spread civil rights, create infrastructure.

                          Bush, Obama and Trump were all respected and feared abroad...we didn't need an army presence to control the region because the threat was real.

                          Biden is so weak and so disrespected abroad it took 180 days to flush 20 years of progress down the drain and turn There was no progress. Afghanistan has always been in the stone age. The fact that the taliban controlled the entire country within hours of us leaving is testament to that.
                          Watch this on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4JxWNf_9JM very enlightening.

                          Nation building is not a reason for war. Afghanistan will never be Denmark no matter how powerful our army or how much money we pour in.

                          Biden had the right idea, he just F'D it up because he is an F'up.
                          Advancing human rights in the middle east to stabilize the last region that the developed world relies on for cheap oil is a reason to maintain a presence, unless you're energy independent.

                          We were independent, until Biden shut down drilling leases and canceled the pipeline.

                          That reversal requires us to be in the mid east...but now he fukked that up as well. Perhaps intentionally...but you watch the price of crude go up here over time now, as China & Russia step in.

                          And you watch the amount of heroine and opiods flood the market as well as State run drug enterprises bring this shit in thru Bidens failed border policy as well
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                          • Andy117
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-07-10
                            • 9511

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                            We stayed as a humanitarian effort, to spread civil rights, create infrastructure.

                            Bush, Obama and Trump were all respected and feared abroad...we didn't need an army presence to control the region because the threat was real.

                            Biden is so weak and so disrespected abroad it took 180 days to flush 20 years of progress down the drain and turn Afghanistan back to the stone age
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                            • BOA12
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-19-12
                              • 20622

                              #15
                              Read it Fat Man.
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                              • Fred The Hammer
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-13-13
                                • 11581

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                We stayed as a humanitarian effort, to spread civil rights, create infrastructure.

                                Bush, Obama and Trump were all respected and feared abroad...we didn't need an army presence to control the region because the threat was real.

                                Biden is so weak and so disrespected abroad it took 180 days to flush 20 years of progress down the drain and turn Afghanistan back to the stone age
                                You're playing politics man. 20 years of progress my ASS!!! You can't force cavemen to join the 21st century. The only thing they understand is violence and mayhem. Give me a goddamn break. Obviously it should've been more organized, but GTFO there was 19 years overdue
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                                • Fred The Hammer
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-13-13
                                  • 11581

                                  #17
                                  [QUOTE=MinnesotaFats;30479541]
                                  Originally posted by fudy213

                                  Advancing human rights in the middle east to stabilize the last region that the developed world relies on for cheap oil is a reason to maintain a presence, unless you're energy independent.

                                  We were independent, until Biden shut down drilling leases and canceled the pipeline.

                                  That reversal requires us to be in the mid east...but now he fukked that up as well. Perhaps intentionally...but you watch the price of crude go up here over time now, as China & Russia step in.

                                  And you watch the amount of heroine and opiods flood the market as well as State run drug enterprises bring this shit in thru Bidens failed border policy as well
                                  And you can scream "Biden this and Biden that" but you know what?

                                  Your boy trumpy had it won!!! The economy was rolling along from 2016-2019 and he could've survived Covid too if he just told the truth and kept his ego under control for the good of the country. He couldn't do it because everything is about him. He's a fu c k in g dumbshit narcissist.

                                  trump would still be the POTUS if he had any self control, humilty, or common sense. So he left the door open and you get what you get. Its 100% his fault.
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