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  • lakerboy
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    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #1
    Breakthrough covid fully vaccinated deaths and hospitalization




  • Wrongside
    SBR MVP
    • 09-26-15
    • 3579

    #2
    People were pointing to Israel with some of these reports (many breakthrough cases), to which people argued, well, that's because there are a lot of vaccinated people in Israel...somebody even quipped - guess what most people in Israel are Jewish too, to make the point, yes, their cases are obviously going to be of the vaccinated variety... Fair enough-- here's the thing, when we compare our number to other countries, who may be trying to be a bit more honest -- it is obvious we are lying.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      So many ways to Interpret the numbers just be safe out there and be smart
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      • QuangX
        SBR MVP
        • 02-03-11
        • 2756

        #4
        Coronavirus cases that send vaccinated people to the hospital or cause death have been relatively rare, a New York Times analysis of state data shows.


        Someone post the rate, I don’t know how to do it. But you’re 48x to die if unvaccinated per the data. Vaccinated vs in-vaccinated death.
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        • Mike Huntertz
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-19-09
          • 11207

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          So many ways to Interpret the numbers just be safe out there and be smart
          Smart seems to be in short supply with some.
          By "these stats" it seems the vaccine is 99% effective from death.
          As this is a gambling site I would love to get those odds!
          Stay safe!
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82818

            #6
            So if 10 bikers die in motorcycle crashes while wearing a helmet it means we won't need to wear helmets when riding bikes?
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            • unde0087
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              • 03-27-08
              • 28952

              #7
              Originally posted by pavyracer
              So if 10 bikers die in motorcycle crashes while wearing a helmet it means we won't need to wear helmets when riding bikes?
              Pavy, we will never know because since 2020 people who die in motorcycle crashes didn't die from the pavement, they died of covid 19 right before. So they would be counted as non-vax covid deaths to push the numbers up.
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              • MinnesotaFats
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-18-10
                • 14758

                #8
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                So if 10 bikers die in motorcycle crashes while wearing a helmet it means we won't need to wear helmets when riding bikes?
                I don't need to wear the helmet to get into a restaurant....

                See the difference

                I don't need to wear the helmet to go to work....

                See the difference

                The difference is I didn't die, so I can do both.

                ...as w Covid, if I'm not sick or at risk, why am I then being prohibited from dining or working?

                This is America, we are free individuals, because the individual is above the government.

                You fukking liberals don't understand a God damn thing about what it means to be an American and our relationship with government.

                Smarten up before you piss away every freedom you have...because you'll never get them back.
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                • QuangX
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-03-11
                  • 2756

                  #9
                  Originally posted by unde0087
                  Pavy, we will never know because since 2020 people who die in motorcycle crashes didn't die from the pavement, they died of covid 19 right before. So they would be counted as non-vax covid deaths to push the numbers up.
                  Some hospital may have a pro incentive for marking covid, that does not mean all hospitals does that. So a few hospitals does not mean all hospitals. If we are reasoning #facts
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                  • Kermit
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                    • 09-27-10
                    • 32555

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                    So if 10 bikers die in motorcycle crashes while wearing a helmet it means we won't need to wear helmets when riding bikes?
                    What if those bikers were already safe wearing their own helmets? Why do they now need to wear your helmet?
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                    • gauchojake
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                      • 09-17-10
                      • 34113

                      #11
                      This is just like the 90s when they convinced straight guys that they needed to wear rubbers so that they didn't get aids.
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                      • TheMoneyShot
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                        • 02-14-07
                        • 28672

                        #12
                        Michigan still HIGH... miraculously. Whitmer knows what she's doing lol
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                        • blackbart
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-04-07
                          • 3833

                          #13
                          where did you get that data from ??
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                          • Demonata
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                            • 07-12-11
                            • 25829

                            #14
                            Well now in the hospitals if they are vaccinated and die from covid they are told not required to mark it as a covid death. Talked to multiple doctors that told me that's what they were told.
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                            • Tanko
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-19-09
                              • 5143

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Demonata
                              Well now in the hospitals if they are vaccinated and die from covid they are told not required to mark it as a covid death. Talked to multiple doctors that told me that's what they were told.


                              I've have an even better source for facts...
                              I talked to my neighbor who's 2nd cousin is a vetrinarian in another state that has a son who is a janitor at their local hospital and he says blah, blah, blah....

                              You had me at "Talked to multiple doctors...."
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                              • Demonata
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                                • 07-12-11
                                • 25829

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Tanko
                                I've have an even better source for facts...
                                I talked to my neighbor who's 2nd cousin is a vetrinarian in another state that has a son who is a janitor at their local hospital and he says blah, blah, blah....

                                You had me at "Talked to multiple doctors...."
                                I have no reason to lie. Even ask the hospital yourself.
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                                • Buckandadime
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-21-15
                                  • 8847

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Demonata
                                  I have no reason to lie. Even ask the hospital yourself.
                                  "Misinformation" from a little bitch..
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                                  • stake1
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-19-18
                                    • 18116

                                    #18
                                    Barnstable, MA outbreak. 75% were breakthrough cases
                                    Israel is the most Pfizer inoculated country on the planet. They are having big problems
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                                    • d2bets
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                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 39995

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Wrongside
                                      People were pointing to Israel with some of these reports (many breakthrough cases), to which people argued, well, that's because there are a lot of vaccinated people in Israel...somebody even quipped - guess what most people in Israel are Jewish too, to make the point, yes, their cases are obviously going to be of the vaccinated variety... Fair enough-- here's the thing, when we compare our number to other countries, who may be trying to be a bit more honest -- it is obvious we are lying.
                                      Yes, every individual, local, county, state reporting is all lying. Including all of the red states. Every one of them is totally lying. Even though there is zero evidence of that, it must be true. One big colluding lie.
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                                      • d2bets
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                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 39995

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Demonata
                                        Well now in the hospitals if they are vaccinated and die from covid they are told not required to mark it as a covid death. Talked to multiple doctors that told me that's what they were told.


                                        Everybody's saying it. They're all saying it. I hear everyone saying it.
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                                        • d2bets
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                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 39995

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by stake1
                                          Barnstable, MA outbreak. 75% were breakthrough cases
                                          Israel is the most Pfizer inoculated country on the planet. They are having big problems
                                          How many deaths?
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                                          • lakerboy
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-02-09
                                            • 94379

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by blackbart
                                            where did you get that data from ??
                                            New York times article.
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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by d2bets
                                              Yes, every individual, local, county, state reporting is all lying. Including all of the red states. Every one of them is totally lying. Even though there is zero evidence of that, it must be true. One big colluding lie.
                                              You were asking last week if anyone that is fully vaccinated got covid-19 and died. The numbers are low obviously but there are plenty of people on that list I posted. That's significant.
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                                              • d2bets
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                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 39995

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                You were asking last week if anyone that is fully vaccinated got covid-19 and died. The numbers are low obviously but there are plenty of people on that list I posted. That's significant.
                                                It's significant that it's around 2-3%. Half of the population accounts for 2-3% of deaths while the other half accounts for 97-98%. Not only that, but the vaccinated half have a higher proportion of folks who would otherwise be at most risk -- because the older and unhealthier people were more likely to take the vaxx than younger healthier people.

                                                I didn't add up that list precisely, but looks like maybe around 1,500. 1,500 out of over 150 million. And it may very well be that most of the 1,500 were folks who were immunocompromised for whom the vaccine did not take. So then I wonder what the death rate is for vaccinated individuals who are not immunocompromised. If you get vaccinated and are not immunocompromised your chance of dying from covid is essentially 0.
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                                                • Demonata
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                                                  • 07-12-11
                                                  • 25829

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets


                                                  Everybody's saying it. They're all saying it. I hear everyone saying it.
                                                  So I should believe you over them? No thanks
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 48383

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    You were asking last week if anyone that is fully vaccinated got covid-19 and died. The numbers are low obviously but there are plenty of people on that list I posted. That's significant.
                                                    This data proves that vaccines work. The numbers are significantly low compared to the unvaccinated. Only dumb asses can take these numbers and try to make them a negative. Your chances of getting sick and dying from Covid are greatly reduced by being vaccinated.
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                                                    • marcoloco
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-05-10
                                                      • 3986

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by unde0087
                                                      Pavy, we will never know because since 2020 people who die in motorcycle crashes didn't die from the pavement, they died of covid 19 right before. So they would be counted as non-vax covid deaths to push the numbers up.
                                                      speaking facts
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                                                      • eidolon
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-02-08
                                                        • 9531

                                                        #28
                                                        You are more likely to die from COVID if you are vaccinated and over the age of 60, than you are if you are under 18 years old and aren't vaccinated.

                                                        Too bad none of us are young anymore. Get vaccinated you old fukks
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                                                        • d2bets
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                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 39995

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by eidolon
                                                          You are more likely to die from COVID if you are vaccinated and over the age of 60, than you are if you are under 18 years old and aren't vaccinated.

                                                          Too bad none of us are young anymore. Get vaccinated you old fukks
                                                          Interesting question. Maybe. Could be close. But that's < 18. Once you get to your 30's then I'd go with old and vaccinated as safer.
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                                                          • flyingillini
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 41219

                                                            #30
                                                            Lambda will be dominant soon, after Lambda there will be a variant that can't be stopped. This bio weapon was designed to not ever be stopped and continue. There will be a variant that will wipe out over a billion or more people. There is no end in sight. This is the top of the first inning in a baseball game.
                                                            המוסד‎
                                                            המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                            • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-03-12
                                                              • 53970

                                                              #31
                                                              Chinese vaccines still effective against Lambda variant: experts

                                                              By Leng Shumei



                                                              Well no shit Sherlock, China's virology lab are the ones
                                                              that cooked the virus up like a evil witch making a brew

                                                              Of course their vaccine gonna work

                                                              They fukked everyone . The CCP .
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                                                              • goduke
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-17-10
                                                                • 11580

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by flyingillini
                                                                Lambda will be dominant soon, after Lambda there will be a variant that can't be stopped. This bio weapon was designed to not ever be stopped and continue. There will be a variant that will wipe out over a billion or more people. There is no end in sight. This is the top of the first inning in a baseball game.
                                                                Chance of this being an accurate statement: 0%
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                                                                • TheGoldenGoose
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-27-12
                                                                  • 3745

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                                  I don't need to wear the helmet to get into a restaurant....

                                                                  See the difference

                                                                  I don't need to wear the helmet to go to work....

                                                                  See the difference

                                                                  The difference is I didn't die, so I can do both.

                                                                  ...as w Covid, if I'm not sick or at risk, why am I then being prohibited from dining or working?

                                                                  This is America, we are free individuals, because the individual is above the government.

                                                                  You fukking liberals don't understand a God damn thing about what it means to be an American and our relationship with government.

                                                                  Smarten up before you piss away every freedom you have...because you'll never get them back.

                                                                  So you have Aids. You're only a carrier. You're not going to die but it's OK for you to fukk anybody you please? C'mon Fats. I know you are smarter than this.
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                                                                  • Auto Donk
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-03-13
                                                                    • 43558

                                                                    #34
                                                                    MODERNA HAS been an utter failure from day one, with nothing to show but dead research animals croaking from its failed mrna platform........ moderna has NEVER had anything approved by the fda.....

                                                                    unfortunately, the vaccinated, like so many rabbits, ferrets, mice, and monkeys, are doomed........

                                                                    don't say we didn't warn your dumbasses.......

                                                                    sincerely,

                                                                    The Unvaccinated
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                                                                    • Auto Donk
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-03-13
                                                                      • 43558

                                                                      #35
                                                                      proper message to the vaccinated (AT 1:24):


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