ICU's are still near capacity. Covid patients stay for months.
The reason its hard for you to take guidance srsly is because you only know what you read on the news, you're not walking the halls of icu's, sitting in regional meetings with leaders discussing how a region is affected, how many hospital beds are available, etc....
It's not ignorance...tell me where the flu went. Tell me who is dying & what the average age is. Tell me why Florida has the same or lower death rate than every State that's been shuttered for a year.
Again, if the vax is appropriate fir someone I have no objection to them taking it, but I've seen enough in my travels and experiences this past year to acknowledge that this has been a political shift job for the elites to put $6 Trillion into their pockets and all it cost em was $1400 per poor person.
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MoneyM1ke
SBR Wise Guy
12-14-09
668
#76
I love the morons posting their cards on social media and people commenting congratulations
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MinnesotaFats
SBR Posting Legend
12-18-10
14758
#77
Originally posted by MoneyM1ke
I love the morons posting their cards on social media and people commenting congratulations
How about the health care professionals that are faking it lol
Illustration by Elizabeth Brockway/The Daily BeastBefore she wiped her page on Tuesday, TikTok user hann.brooke95 hadn’t been shy about sharing even the most mundane details of her life with her 19,400 followers.She posted TikToks of herself cooking while breastfeeding, the can of beans she was using for nachos, and even the painstaking process of transferring her license as a pharmacy tech from Florida to Illinois: from filling out the application, to affixing a return address label and stamp on the envelope, to dropping it in the mailbox in front of her house.And the stream of everyday minutiae might have continued if she hadn’t also used TikTok to brag about stealing COVID-19 vaccination cards from her job so she and her husband could pass themselves off as vaccinated.“I work at a pharmacy and grabbed blank ones for me and my hubby,” she wrote in the comments of another user’s TikTok about fake vaccination cards.It didn’t take long for fellow users Becca Walker and Savannah Sparks to zoom in on that return address label and match the name and address to public records for Hannah Brooke Hutchinson, 25, who is registered as a pharmacy tech in Illinois. Sparks then reported her to the same Illinois Board of Pharmacy that had just granted her license. The Illinois Board of Pharmacy told The Daily Beast it does not comment on investigations.“I’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to steal from your job. And I’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to steal blank vaccination papers for COVID-19 to falsify information and claim that you and your husband were vaccinated when in actuality you were not,” Walker said in a TikTok she posted to call her out.Women Are Putting Their Abortions on TikTok—but Is It Real?Hutchinson did not respond to multiple phone calls and texts sent to numbers associated with her and her boyfriend. But after Walker and Sparks posted TikToks about her, Hutchinson wiped her TikTok and deleted her Instagram and Facebook accounts. The Daily Beast, however, was able to review the zoomed-in image and independently confirm Hutchinson’s details, including her pharmacy technician license, through public records.Just before she wiped her TikTok, she posted: “Stop hating on me! I don’t care what any of you think. I did what is best for my husband and I.” Hours later she posted another TikTok claiming to be a 16-year-old girl in the U.K. doing an experiment for her dad, who is a filmmaker. But the TikToks, which went back a year, tracked with her husband’s Facebook page, which has also been deleted, where she appeared to be a mom in her twenties.“Very sick people come into pharmacies, so when you have a pharmacy employee lying about being vaccinated, everyone there is at risk,” Sparks, herself a pharmacist in Biloxi, Mississippi, told The Daily Beast. “I don’t want them in the profession.”But Hutchinson is far from the only health-care professional seemingly trying to fake her way into the vaccinated world, a trend that could have huge implications for the vulnerable Americans these employees serve.Since Monday, Walker and Sparks have, combined, posted more than half a dozen TikTok videos calling out health-care workers who’ve talked online about forging or attempting to forge vaccine cards. And they say other users have sent them dozens more tips they haven’t been able to verify.“It’s overwhelming,” Sparks said. And public health experts warn it’s incredibly dangerous.“I’m just sitting here flummoxed, thinking about the implications of it all,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and infectious disease at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville. “Anyone who works in the health-care environment obviously contributes to the safety of the environment, which is their own safety, their colleagues’ safety as well as the patients they serve.”He said those caught doing it would likely lose their jobs, if not their careers.“We’re trying to make the whole health-care environment a COVID-free zone and by undermining that in a deliberate fashion, that’s beyond unprofessional. It’s profoundly unethical and contrary to whatever oath a health-care worker took when they accepted their degree. I would imagine there would be implications at the licensing level.”But fear of professional reprisal hasn’t kept some health-care workers from turning the taboo topic of vaccine hesitancy into clout-chasing fodder.Under Hutchinson’s original comment about pinching blank cards, Texas nurse Courtney Long wrote, “Can I pay you to ship a couple to me,” followed by a crying-laughing emoji. Sparks was able to identify Long through the Instagram profile Long included on her TikTok, where she talked about being a nurse, and a linked Facebook profile, under the name Courtney Renee Long, where she also talked about being a nurse. The Texas Board of Nursing’s website identifies a Courtney Renee Long as a Licensed Practical Nurse.“Is this you, Miss LPN?” Sparks said in a TikTok she made calling out Long. “Ah, yeah, the Texas Board of Nursing is gonna see all of this.”Sparks said she reported Long to the Texas Board of Nursing. When contacted by The Daily Beast, the board said it does not comment on investigations. The Daily Beast made a number of attempts to reach Long, through a number associated with family members’ phone numbers and Pinterest, the only social media account in her name that still existed as of Saturday. Calls to a number associated with her name and address were not returned.Sparks and Walker say they have also called out and reported an oncology nurse in Alabama, a trauma nurse at a children’s hospital in Philadelphia, and a receptionist at an asthma clinic.Wisconsin Pharmacist Accused of Spoiling COVID Vaccine Thought It Could Change People’s DNA: CopsIf it seems surprising that vaccine resistance would exist among medical professionals, even those with a strong background in science, Schaffer said it simply highlights how many Americans are still resistant to vaccination, more than three months after the first jabs went into the arms of frontline health-care workers. In February, a survey conducted by experts from Northwestern, Northeastern, Rutgers and Harvard universities found that 21 percent of health-care workers surveyed did not want to be vaccinated. Hesitancy, which indicates skepticism towards the vaccine but not an outright unwillingness to be vaccinated, was 37 percent.“There’s a large number who are not just indifferent but disdainful to the vaccine, they’re just not going to get it. And that’s the remnants of a political approach to COVID under the last administration,” Schaffner said. “It’s hard to unring that bell.”Of course, health-care workers aren’t alone among anti-vaxxers trying to pass as vaccinated and, on Thursday, the Office of the Inspector General warned those who’ve been vaccinated to not post images of their vaccine cards online because of an increase in fake cards.As more Americans get vaccinated, anti-vaxxers have turned to social media to drum up fears of a Biden-governed future in which those without vaccination cards will be turned away from restaurants, hospitals and even Target.“If they're giving out a card to verify you’re vaccinated apparently there’s a reason for it. You might not be able to go shopping, to travel, to buy underwear,” TikTok user truevalor469 posted from a recliner earlier this month. “Hmm. Sounds like the beginning.”The backlash against Walker and Sparks’ crusade to uncover anti-vaxxer health-care workers on TikTok has been harsh. On Wednesday, Sparks changed her phone number after another TikTok user found it and began harassing her. The threats were so bad that on Friday, she had to issue a statement on her business website and shut down the reviews section.So far there are no government requirements to have a vaccination card, and Schaffner said he hasn’t heard of any private companies requiring them for either their employees or customers. Yesterday, Rutgers University in New Jersey became the first college to require students to be vaccinated but Schaffner said fears, widespread as they may be, are for now exaggerated.“By misrepresenting themselves they just avoid a lot of controversy,” he said. “So they’re doing this reprehensible thing to avoid discomfort and having to explain themselves and be responsible for their actions.”Walker said she suspects some of the users may not be as serious about faking their vaccinations as they are about chasing the clout that the taboo topic brings.“If you put up a TikTok saying, ‘Oh, I don't want to get vaccinated. Sell me a vaccine card,’ that’s an automatic 100k views,” Walker told The Daily Beast.Anti-Vaxxers Wage Cruel War on Pregnant Women Who Get COVID ShotOne TikTok user by the name linds3r commented on a viral TikTok about faking vaccination cards, writing, “I got a template if u want it” and, later, “lol I (have) made 8 of them so far front and back.” That user, Lindsey Stauffer, says on Facebook that she is an employee in medical billing at the Department of Veterans Affairs in Lebanon, Pennsylvania. She also makes and sells anti-Biden and pro-Trump shirts from her Facebook page, which includes several of the same images from her TikTok.Reached by The Daily Beast, Stauffer admitted to writing the posts but denied she’d made eight cards.“I didn’t write about making them. I said I know where you can get one. You can go to Google right now and pull up images about it yourself,” Stauffer told The Daily Beast. “I’m not making anything. Anyone can access it.”Stauffer also denied living in Lebanon, though the phone number used to reach her lists that as her address. She denied working at the VA despite listing it as her employer on Facebook. (The federal Department of Veterans Affairs did not immediately respond to requests for comment.) Stauffer also said she had been vaccinated already.“So why would I need to make them?” she told The Daily Beast.But even when medical professionals joke about forging their vaccination, Schaffner said, it can create problems.“When people hear that health-care workers are doing this, it undermines the faith the public has in these institutions and their ability to keep them safe,” Schaffner said.Read more at The Daily Beast.Get our top stories in your inbox every day. Sign up now!Daily Beast Membership: Beast Inside goes deeper on the stories that matter to you. Learn more.
A lot of hesitation out there
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edawg
SBR MVP
07-09-11
2820
#78
They have been doing that forever the doctors and nurses give each other saline injections. I have mad respect for trauma and intensive care professionals (Nurses, Doctors, Surgeons) but you have to realize that most of them or going to go along to get along.
It's not ignorance...tell me where the flu went. Tell me who is dying & what the average age is. Tell me why Florida has the same or lower death rate than every State that's been shuttered for a year.
Again, if the vax is appropriate fir someone I have no objection to them taking it, but I've seen enough in my travels and experiences this past year to acknowledge that this has been a political shift job for the elites to put $6 Trillion into their pockets and all it cost em was $1400 per poor person.
The vaccine is the actual weapon (the real virus). It's the upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0 as a talk show host has said. An upgrade to the Nephilim or Annunaki, etc. This is exactly why GOD blasted these freaks back to the stone age with the flood long ago. And......he will probably have to do something again now as well. This is beyond a freak show and its going to end..........BADLY. Mark my words!
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hehfest
SBR Hall of Famer
09-28-08
7934
#81
Originally posted by MoneyM1ke
I love the morons posting their cards on social media and people commenting congratulations
Stole their freedom with a fake virus (freedoms they never knew they had apparently), and gave it back to them (they won't) with a bullshit vaccine.
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NrmlCurvSurfr
SBR MVP
04-05-10
2896
#82
If nobody is forcing you to take the vaccine, and you choose not to..is that considered refusing?
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MinnesotaFats
SBR Posting Legend
12-18-10
14758
#83
Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
If nobody is forcing you to take the vaccine, and you choose not to..is that considered refusing?
That's the same question I asked earlier.
If I have a choice, if I have a freedom, why am I being condemned for it.
There is a push to cancel the healthy (aka non vaxxed) by the otherwise at risk (aka non healthy).
It's weird...and concerning. Like the old people that scold others for hanging out at bars or congregating at restaurants down here, yet have no issue sitting shoulder to shoulder in church...
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mcaulay777
SBR MVP
09-13-10
1768
#84
I just got my vaccine shot today.My second shot in 4 weeks.I really did not want too, but my parents are in the early 80s so if i want to see them again not thru a screen door i had too.But i would have got in it anyway because i hate getting a cold even.
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HockeyRocks
SBR Hall of Famer
07-10-13
6069
#85
Originally posted by mcaulay777
I just got my vaccine shot today.My second shot in 4 weeks.I really did not want too, but my parents are in the early 80s so if i want to see them again not thru a screen door i had too.But i would have got in it anyway because i hate getting a cold even.
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TheLock
SBR Posting Legend
04-06-08
14427
#86
Originally posted by homie1975
I am in the middle on this subject. why should i run and get it as a nearly 41 year old healthy non black and non hispanic male (the two biggest ethnicities hit by Covid) when i can just let other people get it and we hit 70% herd immunity ??
This is exactly what I’m struggling with.
I’m not a tinfoil dA gOVerNmeNT iS gUnNa sPY oN uS vIA dA InJECTiOn guy but my risk of death (very active, healthy 48 year old) is crazy low.
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HockeyRocks
SBR Hall of Famer
07-10-13
6069
#87
Originally posted by terpkeg
I'd love to hear them
Catch up with current events and you would know that for international travel many countries require you to either have a valid CDC card saying you've completed your vaccinations or you must have tested negative within the last 36 hours leading to the day of your travel.
Just know there will be consequences for ones that choose not to vaccinate.
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BOA12
SBR Posting Legend
02-19-12
20622
#88
Originally posted by HockeyRocks
Catch up with current events and you would know that for international travel many countries require you to either have a valid CDC card saying you've completed your vaccinations or you must have tested negative within the last 36 hours leading to the day of your travel.
Just know there will be consequences for ones that choose not to vaccinate.
Similar to a drug test for a job? No test, no job? Another elite tool,not as much to hire, but an excuse to fire? Friends & Family exempt. Will barr call this a lynching? Another Great R Base Baiting Bastard, barr (trump/R Party, over-loaded W/Them). Wait til a soccer mom can't fly, shit will hit the fan.
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DISTROYA
SBR MVP
04-26-12
2911
#89
Article out now saying what anyone with basic common sense would already know...most vaccines will be "ineffective" in less than 1 year with all the variants/mutated strains.
Being very generous on the 1 year timeframe IMO.
Line up for those infinite booster shots, herd. Pharma is counting on you.
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70'sMan
SBR Wise Guy
02-12-12
744
#90
Well I took it but I'm old. So for me long term side effects are what 10 to 15 years. Plus for those of us born in the 50's or 60's it was a golden age of vaccines. Polio was defeated and there was all the belief in the world for the miracles of modern medicine. If they had developed a vaccine to prevent hiccups my mom would have signed me up. Point being people in my age group have been getting vaccinated all our lives. There were no antivaxxers back then. So I'll roll the dice and plan to add a yearly covid booster to my yearly flu vaccination. Meanwhile I am just hopeful to get back to some form of life as normal. In short the past year has sucked.
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DISTROYA
SBR MVP
04-26-12
2911
#91
Totally understand that, my dad is a cancer survivor and 71, he took the MRNA, no issues with that.
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alling
SBR MVP
05-13-10
1405
#92
Stupid sheep are rushing to take a vaccine that kills at the same rate as not taking vaccine. You know like the flu. Baaa
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beefcake
SBR Posting Legend
11-26-09
14029
#93
My son is disabled and at higher risk to get sick.1000% no brainer for The wife and myself to get the shots..which we both already have.
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Slurry Pumper
SBR MVP
06-18-18
2811
#94
You'll catch me shooting up straight China Virus into my veins before I get a vaccine shot. I suspect in 5 years we might be talking about the rush to push out a vaccine and the possibility of a insurgence, to use an AOC word, of tard kids. That and the fact that I have a over 98% chance of living through it makes me feel like a vaccine isn't needed.
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hehfest
SBR Hall of Famer
09-28-08
7934
#95
Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
You'll catch me shooting up straight China Virus into my veins before I get a vaccine shot. I suspect in 5 years we might be talking about the rush to push out a vaccine and the possibility of a insurgence, to use an AOC word, of tardkids. That and the fact that I have a over 98% chance of living through it makes me feel like a vaccine isn't needed.
Most of them ended up here at SBR as adults..........(but I will say I'm impressed with the rational thought of not wanting the vaccine by many of them). And where is poster RETARD to weigh-in on issues such as these?
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hehfest
SBR Hall of Famer
09-28-08
7934
#96
BTW: 100 million people have now received the vaccine in the USA. This is still an "experimental" vaccine and has not been officially approved by the FDA. Not that it would mean much more if the FDA did approve it.
March 29, 2020 (America’s Frontline Doctors) – Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former Vice President and Chief Science Officer for Pfizer, spoke with great urgency to America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) late last week warning that the drive to inject the largest possible portion of the population with experimental COVID-19 vaccines is “madness,” involves “evil,” includes “crimes against humanity” and may have the intention of “massive-scale depopulation.”
voter suppression is not cool unless voter id is paid for by taxes or distributed for free
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wikkidinsane
SBR Posting Legend
05-30-10
13799
#98
Originally posted by hehfest
BTW: 100 million people have now received the vaccine in the USA. This is still an "experimental" vaccine and has not been officially approved by the FDA. Not that it would mean much more if the FDA did approve it.
March 29, 2020 (America’s Frontline Doctors) – Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former Vice President and Chief Science Officer for Pfizer, spoke with great urgency to America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) late last week warning that the drive to inject the largest possible portion of the population with experimental COVID-19 vaccines is “madness,” involves “evil,” includes “crimes against humanity” and may have the intention of “massive-scale depopulation.”
Similar to a drug test for a job? No test, no job? Another elite tool,not as much to hire, but an excuse to fire? Friends & Family exempt. Will barr call this a lynching? Another Great R Base Baiting Bastard, barr (trump/R Party, over-loaded W/Them). Wait til a soccer mom can't fly, shit will hit the fan.
BOA12 you are right about your analysis, but this isn't about parties or politics. What we have is marxist/communist pro government and major corporate heavy left and center-ish pro corporate right. The only people (and there are maybe 5%) that even resemble historical Americans at this point (freedom and virtue are priorities) are called "Republicans." That's a fact. And sadly, it doesn't matter, since the swamp is so huge. Sheesh, even the military has been replaced by trannies and pansies of the left at this point.
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wikkidinsane
SBR Posting Legend
05-30-10
13799
#101
Originally posted by manny24
inject bleach wikki it will whiten your views
Only trumptards do that .Trumptards also take vaccines for a fake virus
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CWD
SBR Hall of Famer
01-22-12
7665
#102
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MinnesotaFats
SBR Posting Legend
12-18-10
14758
#103
Originally posted by wikkidinsane
voter suppression is not cool unless voter id is paid for by taxes or distributed for free
Allowing people to vote themselves benefits from the tax paying public is not cool unless they, themselves, pay in.
Things changed in the 1920s w the income tax, voter restrictions are 100% legit from that point on.
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Demonata
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
07-12-11
25829
#104
Never got flu shots and never getting this vaccine unless it gets required to get a passport.
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hehfest
SBR Hall of Famer
09-28-08
7934
#105
Originally posted by Demonata
Never got flu shots and never getting this vaccine unless it gets required to get a passport.
So you will buckle under if they require it? They can tell you no more freedom unless this or that anytime they want then.........this is it. Do you not understand that? You stand up now or its OVER.