The Media Refuses to Cover California’s Covid crisis since it proves shutdowns fail

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  • thomorino
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    • 06-01-17
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    #1
    The Media Refuses to Cover California’s Covid crisis since it proves shutdowns fail
    Newsom is on the verge of being recalled, California has been almost completely shutdown for months, and their cases are out of control with icus in some counties at 80 percent capacity.

    Most people can’t work because of the shutdowns and cases are still out of control.

    The science is clear, the overwhelming majority of the covid spread comes from private gatherings inside of 4 or more people, not restaurants and bars, which are being shut down and destroyed, and not people going to work. They are also getting no government money since Pelosi refuses any deal that doesn’t bail out broke poorly run states like illinois and New York.

    Most of these democratic governors are destroying small businesses across the board with no evidence and they aren’t even slowing the spread.

    Even though covid cases in California are out of control corporate media is completely ignoring this story.
  • cincinnatikid513
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    • 11-23-17
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    #2
    saloon and gfu
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    • Okieirish
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      • 09-03-19
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      #3
      Maybe the Deep State is chemtrailing everybody with COVID.
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      • Hu$tle
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        • 03-31-15
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        #4
        shut down?? lol nah everything still open but movies and such
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        • cincinnatikid513
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          • 11-23-17
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          #5
          saloon the broke dik pos ocd nut job negative units in every sport dumb shit
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          • thomorino
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            #6
            Originally posted by Hu$tle
            shut down?? lol nah everything still open but movies and such
            Most nonessential business, most of the state has been shutdown for a while.
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            • thomorino
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              #7
              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
              saloon and gfu
              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
              saloon the broke dik pos ocd nut job negative units in every sport dumb shit
              You post to me everyday I own you.
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              • thomorino
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                #8
                Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                saloon and gfu
                Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                saloon the broke dik pos ocd nut job negative units in every sport dumb shit
                Dumb shits
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                • cincinnatikid513
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                  • 11-23-17
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by thomorino
                  You post to me everyday I own you.
                  u dont own shit u broke dikk loser
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                  • thomorino
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                    u dont own shit u broke dikk loser
                    Wrong and I own you dumb shit.
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                    • TheMetsSuck
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                      • 01-14-12
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                      #11
                      Indoor dining has been cancelled for 5+ months. Outdoor dining cancelled a month ago. Beach clubs/ sports have been half open at best. What do you expect though?


                      It’s a joke that people weren’t compensated by the government to shutdown. I lost all respect in our government during this crisis. Fackin clown show. Loved what Trump had done for 3 years but his response to covid was atrocious and his cry baby antics on Twitter are slowly chipping away at any respect I once had for him.
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                      • PharaohUB
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                        #12
                        I still don’t understand why people think they should get paid to stay at home. I understand unemployment assistance but why do people think they should get free checks even if they didn’t lose their jobs ? Do you spend more money hanging around your home than you do out and about ? So many free loaders these days.
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                        • thomorino
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PharaohUB
                          I still don’t understand why people think they should get paid to stay at home. I understand unemployment assistance but why do people think they should get free checks even if they didn’t lose their jobs ? Do you spend more money hanging around your home than you do out and about ? So many free loaders these days.
                          If the government won’t let you work it makes sense to compensate people because of you don’t then they will end up on food stamps and welfare anyways.
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                          • TheMetsSuck
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                            #14
                            I’m talking about businesses. If you force restaurants to close they should be compensated. There’s legit zero evidence outdoor dining did Dick

                            The gov should’ve paid everyone 1k a week for 3-4 weeks to actually shut down to dramatically slow down the virus. These half ass lockdowns with the county next to you still open only hurt small businesses
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                            • gauchojake
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                              #15
                              It's on the front page of the LA Times pretty much every day and on the front page of Drudge and Fox News websites. They are definitely NOT COVERING it.
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                              • thomorino
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by gauchojake
                                It's on the front page of the LA Times pretty much every day and on the front page of Drudge and Fox News websites. They are definitely NOT COVERING it.
                                It’s not being covered by corporate media at all, cnn, msnbc, nothing.
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                                • TheMetsSuck
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                                  #17
                                  Bc it’s a half ass shutdown. Legit only thing I can’t do now that I could do a month ago Is dine outdoors at a restaurant. It’s a facking joke
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                                  • Unrivaled
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                                    • 10-24-11
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                                    #18
                                    The only country where lockdowns have worked is Australia and guess what? It is their summer season and Covid would have gone away anyways.

                                    Ontario issued a 3 week lockdown on October 1. Their cases have not gone down and it's now been 10 weeks.

                                    In Alberta they started a shutdown and conveniently stopped testing asymptomatic people to pretend the lockdown is working now that there are less cases being counted.

                                    Lockdowns DO NOT WORK and the cure is worse than the disease.
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                                    • thomorino
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                      Bc it’s a half ass shutdown. Legit only thing I can’t do now that I could do a month ago Is dine outdoors at a restaurant. It’s a facking joke
                                      It’s a shutdown, small businesses are being crushed throughout the state.
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                                      • Unrivaled
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                                        • 10-24-11
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                        Bc it’s a half ass shutdown. Legit only thing I can’t do now that I could do a month ago Is dine outdoors at a restaurant. It’s a facking joke
                                        Yes, let's just shut everything down for 3 months and let people be jobless and homeless. To save some 80 and 90 year olds who will die soon anyways.

                                        Moronic.
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                                        • Optional
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                                          • 06-10-10
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Unrivaled
                                          The only country where lockdowns have worked is Australia and guess what? It is their summer season and Covid would have gone away anyways.

                                          Ontario issued a 3 week lockdown on October 1. Their cases have not gone down and it's now been 10 weeks.

                                          In Alberta they started a shutdown and conveniently stopped testing asymptomatic people to pretend the lockdown is working now that there are less cases being counted.

                                          Lockdowns DO NOT WORK and the cure is worse than the disease.
                                          Nothing to do with Summer or Winter. 12 months into this we know that for sure.


                                          Australia worked because the govt made sure anyone forced out of work was paid, and is still doing it. So most people complied and we beat the virus.

                                          The cost of that is fast being covered by how our economy is "booming" compared to the rest of the world. Because everyone got on with dealing with it and adjusting early.


                                          One year into the problem we still see angry selfish people crying they wont even wear a mask as the US economy will be ruined
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                                          • Unrivaled
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                            Nothing to do with Summer or Winter. 12 months into this we know that for sure.


                                            Australia worked because the govt made sure anyone forced out of work was paid, and is still doing it. So most people complied and we beat the virus.

                                            The cost of that is fast being covered by how our economy is "booming" compared to the rest of the world. Because everyone got on with dealing with it and adjusting early.


                                            One year into the problem we still see angry selfish people crying they wont even wear a mask as the US economy will be ruined
                                            Flu season in Australia starts in April or May so we will see later in 2021.

                                            But just be honest, lockdowns do not work and we have zero evidence of them working.
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                                            • thechaoz
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                                              • 10-23-09
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                                              #23
                                              Except Wuhan, China has a whole, australia, new zealand, japan, germany, Mexico, france, spain, sweden, Netherlands are all completely open for business.

                                              But yeah keeping away from each other and treating something like a flu which it is doesn't work at all
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                                              • Optional
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                                                • 06-10-10
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Unrivaled

                                                Flu season in Australia starts in April or May so we will see later in 2021.

                                                But just be honest, lockdowns do not work and we have zero evidence of them working.
                                                Well apart from 17 cases popping up after an American pilot ignored rules here causing another 3 day stay at home request for one area, I'd say what Australia has done worked awesome. Sth Korea might say the same.

                                                You scream "lock downs". Never had an enforced stay at home order, or any order to wear masks in my state.

                                                Doesn't have to be extreme measures like fear mongers cry about. Just need the population to work together and even your useless old people don't need to die.

                                                But "even better" than that, you could have had a booming economy too by now, instead of the complete mess and drain circling situation you have in the USA right now.

                                                If only selfish people like you would have been willing to do the right thing thing for 2 or 3 months before it got out of control
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                                                • Unrivaled
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                  Well apart from 17 cases popping up after an American pilot ignored rules here causing another 3 day stay at home request for one area, I'd say what Australia has done worked awesome. Sth Korea might say the same.

                                                  You scream "lock downs". Never had an enforced stay at home order, or any order to wear masks in my state.

                                                  Doesn't have to be extreme measures like fear mongers cry about. Just need the population to work together and even your useless old people don't need to die.

                                                  But "even better" than that, you could have had booming economy too, instead of the complete mess and drain circling situation you have in the USA right now.

                                                  If only selfish people like you would have been willing to do the right thing thing for 2 or 3 months before it got out of control
                                                  I'm actually in Canada and followed the rules. I wear my mask, I social distance and guess what... I have gotten Covid twice! Gotta work for a living so I don't have the luxury of hiding at home for another year until I get the vaccine.

                                                  Numbers are the worst they've ever been despite every province in lockdowns for months. And businesses being forced to close their doors forever.

                                                  Guess what the average age of death for Covid is? 84.... 80 penetrating 4. The average age of death in my province is 83 and suddenly deaths from old age have disappeared. Everything is Covid now.

                                                  So some of the left leaning dumb shits need to get a clue. This will go away in the spring just like it did last year.
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                                                  • Optional
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                                                    • 06-10-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Unrivaled

                                                    I'm actually in Canada and followed the rules. I wear my mask, I social distance and guess what... I have gotten Covid twice! Gotta work for a living so I don't have the luxury of hiding at home for another year until I get the vaccine.

                                                    Numbers are the worst they've ever been despite every province in lockdowns for months. And businesses being forced to close their doors forever.

                                                    Guess what the average age of death for Covid is? 84.... 80 penetrating 4. The average age of death in my province is 83 and suddenly deaths from old age have disappeared. Everything is Covid now.

                                                    So some of the left leaning dumb shits need to get a clue. This will go away in the spring just like it did last year.
                                                    Guess how many total deaths here? 908, 9 hundred and penetrating 8.

                                                    Plus unemployment stats are 30% better than predicted, house prices are rising, official interest rates remain above zero, the Aussie dollar is flying upward. We are killing it economically and not dieing.

                                                    And we have a right wing government...


                                                    Your ball. Tell me how the population doing the right thing doesnt work. You are evidence of why Canadas situation is not as good. Politicized extremists that want to act against their own best interests.
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                                                    • konck
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                                                      • 10-17-06
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                                      Indoor dining has been cancelled for 5+ months. Outdoor dining cancelled a month ago. Beach clubs/ sports have been half open at best. What do you expect though?


                                                      It’s a joke that people weren’t compensated by the government to shutdown. I lost all respect in our government during this crisis. Fackin clown show. Loved what Trump had done for 3 years but his response to covid was atrocious and his cry baby antics on Twitter are slowly chipping away at any respect I once had for him.
                                                      Trumps covid ignorance made him a loser to a moron ....his baby Twitter whining just helped the cause.
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                                                      • Unrivaled
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                                        Guess how many total deaths here? 908, 9 hundred and penetrating 8.

                                                        Plus unemployment stats are 30% better than predicted, house prices are rising, official interest rates remain above zero, the Aussie dollar is flying upward. We are killing it economically and not dieing.

                                                        And we have a right wing government...


                                                        Your ball. Tell me how the population doing the right thing doesnt work. You are evidence of why Canadas situation is not as good. Politicized extremists that want to act against their own best interests.
                                                        Completely different situations. The start of winter for us is Monday. There is going to be snowstorms and cold weather this week meaning everyone is indoors. Meaning more covid spread.

                                                        In comparison the temperature in Australia is in the 20s every day now. Guess what, in our summer months the virus basically went away too. It has nothing to do with lockdowns.

                                                        95% of Covid deaths are people in long term care homes who were going to die soon anyways. Yes, it is sad and every death is tragic. But overdose deaths have skyrocketed, suicides have skyrocketed, mental health of people has deteriorated on average.

                                                        The number of dead Canadians is the exact same as every other year. Meaning Covid deaths are exaggerated completely.
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                                                        • thomorino
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                                                          #29
                                                          It’s too soon to know if the lockdown in Australia was effective in controlling the virus or not, many countries thought they had the virus under control but it almost always comes back.

                                                          Australia’s lockdown was extremely tough and included military arrests of people not following lockdown procedures, that’s not the type of country I would want to live in. All it takes is one big theorist attack or another potentially more serious pandemic and the military can take control of the whole country in a state like that.

                                                          Their is more to consider than the virus is under control. What Australia did was a violation of civil liberties on a large scale.

                                                          You also can’t compare a country with that much land and a relatively small population to larger countries such as the US, and when a severe lockdown like that occurs you have to look at mental illness, domestic and child abuse, other factors.

                                                          If the US tried to do what Australia did there would rightly be a rebellion, politicians are frequently corrupt and incompetent, giving them the power to throw out civil liberators every time a so called crisis comes around is not the answer.
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                                                          • thomorino
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Unrivaled
                                                            Completely different situations. The start of winter for us is Monday. There is going to be snowstorms and cold weather this week meaning everyone is indoors. Meaning more covid spread.

                                                            In comparison the temperature in Australia is in the 20s every day now. Guess what, in our summer months the virus basically went away too. It has nothing to do with lockdowns.

                                                            95% of Covid deaths are people in long term care homes who were going to die soon anyways. Yes, it is sad and every death is tragic. But overdose deaths have skyrocketed, suicides have skyrocketed, mental health of people has deteriorated on average.

                                                            The number of dead Canadians is the exact same as every other year. Meaning Covid deaths are exaggerated completely.
                                                            True and another point being left out supporting this argument is the sudden supposed drop in heart disease by 75-80 percent. Pneumonia, flu, heart disease, supposedly disappear and everything is covid when hospitals starving for cash get far more money when a death is declared covid.
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                                                            • gauchojake
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                                                              #31
                                                              I'm moving to Oz
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                                                              • Unrivaled
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                                                True and another point being left out supporting this argument is the sudden supposed drop in heart disease by 75-80 percent. Pneumonia, flu, heart disease, supposedly disappear and everything is covid when hospitals starving for cash get far more money when a death is declared covid.
                                                                Pneumonia, heart disease, liver disease, old age deaths are all being labeled Covid.

                                                                Most stay in a long term care home about 2 years prior to dying. You can't label these deaths as a covid death if they were going to die anyways. But that's exactly what is happening.
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                                                                • slayer14
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  The flu kills more people than covid it getting out of hand now with all these shut downs and regulations
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                                                                  • Optional
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by slayer14
                                                                    The flu kills more people than covid it getting out of hand now with all these shut downs and regulations
                                                                    Covid paralyzes normal commerce.

                                                                    Spending 3 months controlling it gets your economy back.

                                                                    And help people be prepared to handle it fast when this happens again.


                                                                    Making excuses to keep dithering around and acting like nothing can be done apart from waiting for vaccines or some magical herd immunity point is just sticking your head in the sand and hoping no one will happen along and penetrate you in that raised behind.

                                                                    America will lose too much ground to other powers if it doesn't work out somehow better to deal with this.
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                                                                    • Nitrogen
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by slayer14
                                                                      The flu kills more people than covid it getting out of hand now with all these shut downs and regulations
                                                                      That's why every year ICU's are full, and freezer trucks are brought in to store the dead.

                                                                      Stupid seasonal flu.
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