Huge Betting Syndicates taking over Delaware Park, Indiana Downs,etc Be careful

jjgold · 10-14-20, 04:39 PM

Good info guy

Bostongambler · 10-14-20, 04:43 PM

Good looking out Winky. 😉

Bandit · 10-15-20, 06:53 AM

Indiana Race 3 October 14th/2020

Modeling: WINNERS 03-IND Wed Oct 14, 2020 02:16 PM 5.5D 3uF NW2s $36500 095-094 A-A Vi=43 Q6=2 PL-5 EEn: 50.00% - 55.24% Avg 53.06% --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Pn PP HORSE MLO AG LAY Q R Fr1 Fr2 Fr3 E/P A/P S/P F/X L/P VEL PAC PER (K) HTR TRN JKY PED WK FC KMS CLA k2 ENERGY Pn Sys1Sys2Sys3Sys4 KAT AML Fin Odds --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1 01 Justa Si 6/1 3f 027 +7 E 2 6 5 4 6 6 2 6 6 2 5 3 4 6 3 6 2 6 3 3 5 52.26% |1 | 3 3 5 3 3 5/1 5 5.3 2 02 Quiet Co 15/1 4f 013 4 E 4 5 3 5 5 3 4 4 5 5 5 4 3 2 2 5 4 3 6 4 6 51.28% |2 | 4 4 4 4 3 15/1 4 16.0 5 03 Ginormou 15/1 5m 013 0 R 6 3 1* 6 3 1* 3 1* 2 6 2 5 5 4 4 3 6 5 4 5 4 50.03% |5 | 5 6 3 5 1 25/1 3 14.2 6 04 Da High 2/1 4f 027 +7 F 1* 1* 6 1* 2 5 5 5 3 1* 2 1+ 2 3 5 1* 5 1* 1* 1* 2 53.61% |6 | 2 1* 2 1* 5* 7/5 6 2.6 7 05 Bribe 20/1 4f 055 0 S 5 2 4 3 4 4 6 3 4 4 4 6 5 5 6 4 3 2 5 6 3 52.02% |7 | 6 5 6 6 1 25/1 2 13.7 8 06 Azurita *8/5 3f 027 5 P 3 4 2 2 1* 2 1* 2 1* 3 1* 2+ 1* 1* 1* 2 1* 3 2 2 1+ 51.33% |8 |PSF1* 2 1* 2 2 6/5* 1* 0.6* --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Sorry it's jumbled but you can see #8 Azurita - with all the 1's and 2's is a horse and a Race that you walk away from. There's no dough to be made on this race. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------20 Similar Races to Model Avg Field Size 8.7 Avg Winner Paid $14.40 Favs Won 30.0%Data Dump Sorted by Hit Rate %------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Factor Plays Hit% Program # Order of Finish (WPS) = 8 7 5----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PER Top4 014 093% 5 6 7 8
KMS Top4 013 092% 1 5 6 8
HTR Top4 020 090% 1 2 6 8
PER Top3 014 086% 5 5 8
CLA Top4 014 086% 1 2 6 8
rPosTop4 020 085% 1 5 6 8
PAC Top4 014 079% 1 6 7 8
Fr2 Top4 014 079% 5 6 7 8
E/P Top4 014 079% 1 6 7 8
A/P Top4 014 079% 5 6 7 8
F/X Top4 014 079% 1 2 5 8
CLA Top2 014 079% 6 8
L/P Top4 014 079% 2 5 7 8
Sy2 Top3 014 079% 1 6 8

Wink: Here's MY Model for the 3rd Race at Indiana Downs - Notice the 1st result Per - at 93% - it chose your top 3 horses out of 4. This model took in 130 days back/20 races. There was ZERO interest in that race as that Favorite was just that - a well meant horse.

There are some major betting syndicates @ some tracks that allow batch betting and 1 that I think operates in Canada.

Also, you seem sure the jock's are pocketing some out $$$. if you are so sure contact your local AG/The FBI whatever.

winkyyy · 10-15-20, 06:02 PM

FBI???? Try calling the FBI.....U cant even get thru.....and then they will tell u to call another dept.

They will laugh u off the phone if u mention horseracing...it is for suckers.. Track takes 25-29% off each freakin race.....they should be taking no more than 8-10% MAX

Foxx · 10-15-20, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by winkyyy

FBI???? Try calling the FBI.....U cant even get thru.....and then they will tell u to call another dept.
They will laugh u off the phone if u mention horseracing...it is for suckers.. Track takes 25-29% off each freakin race.....they should be taking no more than 8-10% MAX

Agreed the takeout is too high. It was one thing when horse racing was the only game in town, but now with having to compete with lower vig options like sports and poker, it is tougher for racing to compete. They ought to tax horse racing on the state level the same as other games to level the playing field and give them the room needed to lower takeout.

Wabashwonders · 10-16-20, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by winkyyy

Many of the jocks there are taking the "out" money $500 to $2000 to stay out of the Trifectas and

superfectas...

Indiana Downs 3rd Race today is now under scrutiny .....

They usually stiff the 2nd ,3rd fav when a BIG chalk horse wins....and let 2 or 3 long prices fill in

the exotics....

I wish I knew when they played the games ...but if you watch you will see some odd finishes...

some races they take the 1st 2nd and 3rd fav right off the ticket....and try to "Sweep" the pool.

The Pik 4 Pik 5 Pick 6 Be very careful...Blatant stiffs in many of the races when the pool gets huge.

Lol, under scrutiny by who?

And thanks for letting me know after watching horse racing for 50+ years that you will see some odd finishes. That’s true in any sport but thank you for pointing it out. I never knew that.