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  • HockeyRocks
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-10-13
    • 6069

    #106
    Originally posted by Emily_Haines
    Government doesn't get to tell me what to do.

    Mask mandates in 19 states with Democrat governors yet in only 3 with Republican governors

    I get punished for simply living in a state with a democrat governor.
    Pass this poster a box of tissues...
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 61201

      #107
      Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
      The "masks" and Covid frenzy has already cost the taxpayer $6Trillion and wiped about $8 trillion off the US economy.

      There is ZERO recovery from this
      Why have masks and covid caused so much financial damage in USA that is impossible to recover from, but that has not even happened in Italy?

      Or in most other countries who responded decisively to flatten the curve?

      Are you sure it isn't the inept response of governments there? And the people being so divided and arguing instead of acting together, and it's not really the masks fault?



      I think compulsory masks is a bad idea btw. Has not been needed here to arrest the spread.
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      • pilebuck13
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-15-15
        • 17918

        #108
        Only n95 masks will do anything should see all the infections people are getting from wearing them
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        • MinnesotaFats
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          • 12-18-10
          • 14758

          #109
          Originally posted by Optional
          Why have masks and covid caused so much financial damage in USA that is impossible to recover from, but that has not even happened in Italy?

          Or in most other countries who responded decisively to flatten the curve?

          Are you sure it isn't the inept response of governments there? And the people being so divided and arguing instead of acting together, and it's not really the masks fault?



          I think compulsory masks is a bad idea btw. Has not been needed here to arrest the spread.
          The Italian population and economy is smaller than California and it's debt is 140% of GDP hence it has no sustainable economic viability & further 15% of it's population live in absolute poverty, the other 85% have an average MONTHLY income of $2,000.

          The entire country is either a native Italian dependent on government to live or foreign investors buying up properties.

          The US is 80% consumer discretionary spending economy. That's the difference- the money MUST cycle thru the economy in the US whereas in MOST (not all) European Countries the money goes directly from the Govt to the recipient.
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          • Optional
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            • 06-10-10
            • 61201

            #110
            Originally posted by pilebuck13
            Only n95 masks will do anything should see all the infections people are getting from wearing them
            That's a cop out excuse.

            Anything in front of your face will reduce the area you could be infecting.

            Its not about protecting you. They are about helping reduce the virus ability to spread.

            If you don't want to put yourself out to do that, own it.

            I haven't worn a mask apart from one time when I went into an office that required it but aren't so ashamed of my choice to make up excuses.
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            • pilebuck13
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              • 05-15-15
              • 17918

              #111
              Originally posted by Optional
              That's a cop out excuse.

              Anything in front of your face will reduce the area you could be infecting.

              Its not about protecting you. They are about helping reduce the virus ability to spread.

              If you don't want to put yourself out to do that, own it.

              I haven't worn a mask apart from one time when I went into an office that required it but aren't so ashamed of my choice to make up excuses.
              Standard mask stops 100-300 microns virus is .05 microns so you have zero idea really what you are trying to say
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              • Optional
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                • 06-10-10
                • 61201

                #112
                Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                The Italian population and economy is smaller than California and it's debt is 140% of GDP hence it has no sustainable economic viability & further 15% of it's population live in absolute poverty, the other 85% have an average MONTHLY income of $2,000.

                The entire country is either a native Italian dependent on government to live or foreign investors buying up properties.

                The US is 80% consumer discretionary spending economy. That's the difference- the money MUST cycle thru the economy in the US whereas in MOST (not all) European Countries the money goes directly from the Govt to the recipient.
                Italy got hit worse than anyone and with least warning.

                The point is that they responded and got on top of the health problem. They also are not crying that their economy is destroyed beyond the point of recovery as you claimed the USA is.

                Substitute Italy for Germany, Australia, new Zealand, Sth Korea and just about all other developed nations and the point still works.


                The USA aint that different. Apart from the response.
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                • Optional
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                  • 06-10-10
                  • 61201

                  #113
                  Originally posted by pilebuck13
                  Standard mask stops 100-300 microns virus is .05 microns so you have zero idea really what you are trying to say
                  A piece of dirty old cloth stops both the majority of droplets from a cough or sneeze contaminating the surfaces around you, but also the distance it can travel from you.

                  Are you saying that is not true now???

                  This is not any form of excuse for not wanting to wear a mask. Own it like I do. I don't want to wear a mask unless I absolutely have to.
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                  • ronald
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-31-05
                    • 4918

                    #114
                    I haven't worn a mask even once.

                    I'm not sick.

                    Therefore, no need.
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                    • Black Coffee
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-04-19
                      • 1187

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                      He does not look happy.
                      He knows what that photo will do to him...
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                      • stevenash
                        Moderator
                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65400

                        #116
                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                        Well the dip shit experts here say they absolutely do. I don’t tend to ever trust or believe Drs but if mask keeps things open I don’t really care what it does.
                        What's your problem with doctors?

                        My main problem with a select few (and there are only a select few) that think of your health as a business.
                        By that I mean a tiny percentage of doctors will push unnecessary surgeries or prescribe unnecessary pharmaceuticals on you for the good of the almighty dollar, but like I said almost all doctors are good, but like in any profession some are corrupt.
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                        • HockeyRocks
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                          • 07-10-13
                          • 6069

                          #117
                          30 year old Texas man purposely attended a party thrown by someone infected with covid, which the aim was to see if any other attendees would get infected. The man became critically ill and was admited to the hospital where he died. Before his death, he told his nurse that he thought the virus was a, yup you guessed it, a"hoax." This all according to San Antonio Methodist Healthcare Chief Medical Office Dr Jane Appleby. JSMH...
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                          • Tanko
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                            • 09-19-09
                            • 5140

                            #118
                            Originally posted by ronald
                            I haven't worn a mask even once.

                            I'm not sick.

                            Therefore, no need.
                            Your logic is amazing. Are you a doctor or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.?

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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #119
                              Originally posted by ronald
                              I haven't worn a mask even once.

                              I'm not sick.

                              Therefore, no need.
                              Can’t really suck a rooster with a mask on huh?
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                              • 2daBank
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #120
                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                What's your problem with doctors?

                                My main problem with a select few (and there are only a select few) that think of your health as a business.
                                By that I mean a tiny percentage of doctors will push unnecessary surgeries or prescribe unnecessary pharmaceuticals on you for the good of the almighty dollar, but like I said almost all doctors are good, but like in any profession some are corrupt.
                                You hit it on the head, while I’m sure there good ones I find the overwhelming majority to have been nothing more than overeducated drug pushers. I mean it whatever, I don’t have a problem w drug dealers, just own it instead of acting all high and mighty while being big pharma pushers.

                                They responsible for the opioid epidemic in this country and that really pisses me off cause now it practically impossible to get those drugs I like and was self medicating with long before they hooked half the country!!!! They give kids prescription speed, that has never sat well with me, although once again I’m a big fan but it insane they hand that out to every kid who raises a little hell!!! They hand out anti depressants like candy. Let’s be real they are bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical companies.

                                I’ll be damned if they gonna look me in the eye and act as if they have the patients best interest at heart. Now they wanna take our sports away and once again let’s be real, they have always had a hard on for football and most athletics in general so of course I am skeptical of their motives when they try to shut sports down. Let’s just say I don’t find them to be nearly as ethical as they would like folks to believe, end of the day they have agendas just like everyone else with power and I think they using this pandemic to push them.

                                All that said as I’ve mentioned several times in this thread, if there a chance wearing a mask helps prevent the spread then I’m all for it. It’s really not that big of a ask, kinda baffles me guys acting like wearing a mask is some huge violation of their god given freedoms! Lol. It a penetrating mask indoors around ppl! Who cares? There a hundred other laws I find way more ignorant and detrimental to freedom!!
                                Last edited by 2daBank; 07-11-20, 07:39 PM.
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                                • Booya711
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                                  • 12-20-11
                                  • 27329

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                  30 year old Texas man purposely attended a party thrown by someone infected with covid, which the aim was to see if any other attendees would get infected. The man became critically ill and was admited to the hospital where he died. Before his death, he told his nurse that he thought the virus was a, yup you guessed it, a"hoax." This all according to San Antonio Methodist Healthcare Chief Medical Office Dr Jane Appleby. JSMH...
                                  Not all Texans are bright Hockey....I won’t claim them. San Antonio clown show
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                                  • MinnesotaFats
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                                    • 12-18-10
                                    • 14758

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                    Italy got hit worse than anyone and with least warning.

                                    The point is that they responded and got on top of the health problem. They also are not crying that their economy is destroyed beyond the point of recovery as you claimed the USA is.

                                    Substitute Italy for Germany, Australia, new Zealand, Sth Korea and just about all other developed nations and the point still works.


                                    The USA aint that different. Apart from the response.
                                    I think it's apples and oranges.

                                    Our economy isn't based on mfg or exports like those European countries. It's based on Agriculture, Tech/ Services, and hugely hospitality. I don't know the figures per se, but I'd assume the US economy is more dependent upon discretionary spending in non essential services and non mfg work than that of Europe and non China Asia combined.

                                    Whereas a Germany may have responded better it is because their economy doesn't live or die based on its citizens ability to travel freely to spend on sports, concerts and beach towns.

                                    Hell, I wonder if the US sports industry alone is bigger than the entire economy of Italy....???
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                                    • Unrivaled
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-24-11
                                      • 6685

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                      30 year old Texas man purposely attended a party thrown by someone infected with covid, which the aim was to see if any other attendees would get infected. The man became critically ill and was admited to the hospital where he died. Before his death, he told his nurse that he thought the virus was a, yup you guessed it, a"hoax." This all according to San Antonio Methodist Healthcare Chief Medical Office Dr Jane Appleby. JSMH...
                                      I know they said he had no pre existing conditions but does that include obesity?
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                                      • Booya711
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                                        • 12-20-11
                                        • 27329

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by Unrivaled
                                        I know they said he had no pre existing conditions but does that include obesity?
                                        San Antonio....high probability of an obese Hispanic kid
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                                        • lakerboy
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-02-09
                                          • 94379

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by Booya711
                                          San Antonio....high probability of an obese Hispanic kid
                                          Spics can be very skinny as well
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                            Spics can be very skinny as well
                                            That’s not nice.
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                                            • d2bets
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                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 39994

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                              I think it's apples and oranges.

                                              Our economy isn't based on mfg or exports like those European countries. It's based on Agriculture, Tech/ Services, and hugely hospitality. I don't know the figures per se, but I'd assume the US economy is more dependent upon discretionary spending in non essential services and non mfg work than that of Europe and non China Asia combined.

                                              Whereas a Germany may have responded better it is because their economy doesn't live or die based on its citizens ability to travel freely to spend on sports, concerts and beach towns.

                                              Hell, I wonder if the US sports industry alone is bigger than the entire economy of Italy....???
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                                              • HockeyRocks
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                                                • 07-10-13
                                                • 6069

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by Unrivaled
                                                I know they said he had no pre existing conditions but does that include obesity?
                                                I have no idea. Does it make a difference?
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                                                • d2bets
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                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 39994

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                                  30 year old Texas man purposely attended a party thrown by someone infected with covid, which the aim was to see if any other attendees would get infected. The man became critically ill and was admited to the hospital where he died. Before his death, he told his nurse that he thought the virus was a, yup you guessed it, a"hoax." This all according to San Antonio Methodist Healthcare Chief Medical Office Dr Jane Appleby. JSMH...
                                                  Darwin FTW.
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                                                  • HockeyRocks
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                                                    • 07-10-13
                                                    • 6069

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Booya711
                                                    Not all Texans are bright Hockey....I won’t claim them. San Antonio clown show
                                                    Well this guy certainly needed some schoolhousin about covid. He might still be alive...
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                                                    • d2bets
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                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 39994

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by ronald
                                                      I haven't worn a mask even once.

                                                      I'm not sick.

                                                      Therefore, no need.
                                                      ...yet. I wish illness on no one, but some are more deserving than others. Hope you stay well.
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                                                      • lakerboy
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                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94379

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                        That’s not nice.
                                                        It's true.
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                                                        • 2daBank
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                          It's true.
                                                          Not the statement. The spic part.
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                                                          • HockeyRocks
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                                                            • 07-10-13
                                                            • 6069

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                            It's true.
                                                            Geeeeee, i might have 80K post someday...NOT...
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                                              Geeeeee, i might have 80K post someday...NOT...
                                                              Hey now!! It’s a lofty accomplishment of multitasking Mixed with nothing better to do!! Mixed with a lot to say!!
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                                                              • lakerboy
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-02-09
                                                                • 94379

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                                                Geeeeee, i might have 80K post someday...NOT...
                                                                You are an illiterate retired millionaire remember? Yet you are obsessed with Trump. 😂😂😂

                                                                Like any millionaire is worried what trump does.
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                                                                • HockeyRocks
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-10-13
                                                                  • 6069

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                  Hey now!! It’s a lofty accomplishment of multitasking Mixed with nothing better to do!! Mixed with a lot to say!!
                                                                  Dang, i just noticed you have more than Laker does. LOL... There is a difference. You're apt to put a few sentences togther.
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                                                                  • lakerboy
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                                    • 94379

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                                                    Dang, i just noticed you have more than Laker does. LOL... There is a difference. You're apt to put a few sentences togther.
                                                                    Togther?



                                                                    😂😂😂😂😂😂
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                                                                    • 2daBank
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                                      • 88966

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                                                      Dang, i just noticed you have more than Laker does. LOL... There is a difference. You're apt to put a few sentences togther.
                                                                      LB has a very good ratio of quality to nonsense!! To get this many there gotta be some fluff in there! Lot of in game talking as well. My goal is for at least half of them to be something of substance pertaining to plays worth reading!! The other half just nonsense. Lol.
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                                                                      • HockeyRocks
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 07-10-13
                                                                        • 6069

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                        You are an illiterate retired millionaire remember? Yet you are obsessed with Trump. 

                                                                        Like any millionaire is worried what trump does.
                                                                        Not illiterate
                                                                        Not retired, semi-retired
                                                                        Not a millionaire, but close.

                                                                        Your zero for 3. Try harder the next time.
                                                                        Last edited by HockeyRocks; 07-11-20, 08:32 PM.
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