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  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #1
    Conservative speech and thought is getting banned.
    For people who want to express there opinions most media outlets are ONLY allowing what is socially acceptable due to the current events. Facebook CEO Zuckerberg so far has been good but twitter is a complete left wing joke.

    Democracy is dying. We need to make a stand.
  • Foxx
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-25-11
    • 5831

    #2
    Sadly, short of breaking up the Republic and starting anew, there is not much that can be done. Unless you have some ideas.
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    • KVB
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-29-14
      • 74817

      #3
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      • goduke
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-17-10
        • 11580

        #4
        As long as it makes common sense. Free speech is fine but when people decide spouting off at the mouth is more important than listening then it’s useless. If one shouts and the other just waits till he’s done to shout back nothing is being accomplished. Our society couldn’t get worse at listening if we tried. The underlying problem with our society and it’s not even close
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #5
          Originally posted by goduke
          As long as it makes common sense...
          Part of the problem right there. You just don't get it. There are already "as long as" conditions, and rightfully so.

          Some individual's concept of "sense" is not in there for a reason, even if he does want to label it something like "common."

          Sheesh.
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          • JIBBBY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-10-09
            • 83686

            #6
            Yup, twitter tightening up and so is Facebook.. Liberal speech only.

            I get BLM screen message on my TV now and with Amazon.. Every shop still boarded up in Santa Monica in my home town has BLM spray painted on it now still today.. No lie..

            I'm starting to subliminally hate myself and white people .. It's getting pumped into my brain every where I look.
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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #7
              I’m more discouraged by the idea ppl care what is allowed on twitter.
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              • goduke
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-17-10
                • 11580

                #8
                Originally posted by KVB
                Part of the problem right there. You just don't get it. There are already "as long as" conditions, and rightfully so.

                Some individual's concept of "sense" is not in there for a reason, even if he does want to label it something like "common."

                Sheesh.
                Ok fine I should have said as long as it can be backed with logical reasoning. But you took the rest of what I said off your response. None of it matters because people don’t listen. Just look at SBR

                And logical reasoning is not a condition it’s how we should operate. You can have conservative views or liberal views but it should be based on facts and it should be logical. Why do we want to promote nonsense or lies. Don’t we see lies on a daily basis? Isn’t that a big problem? Would you rather have things based on facts or words pulled from the sky?
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                  I’m more discouraged by the idea ppl care what is allowed on twitter.
                  Agreed. I'm not even talking about things like Twitteror FB myself. They're companies they can have whatever standard they want. If it became classified as more like a utility type message board and info provider, then I would take issue.

                  I don't like when we see it in what are supposed to be licensed "news" organizations. The government is involved with policing that platform and it has to be held to a different standard.

                  For now, you're right. Who gives a shit what twitter thinks.

                  It's a shame our president seems to, but it is part of his campaign machine so take it for what it's worth.

                  Banker, I hope all is well with you and yours my friend.

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                  • goduke
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-17-10
                    • 11580

                    #10
                    And outside of trump are conservative thoughts getting banned on social media. Right now I’m seeing people respond to people who disagree with the BLM movement. But how is that different from people who bashed on people liking Obama for 8 years. Why are conservatives so soft when liberal people get loud? Are liberal people suppose to listen but conservatives don’t have to because there voice is smaller now.
                    I know LB is just running a quota of posts right now to stir up debate
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                    • goduke
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-17-10
                      • 11580

                      #11
                      Originally posted by KVB
                      Agreed. I'm not even talking about things like Twitteror FB myself. They're companies they can have whatever standard they want. If it became classified as more like a utility type message board and info provider, then I would take issue.

                      I don't like when we see it in what are supposed to be licensed "news" organizations. The government is involved with policing that platform and it has to be held to a different standard.

                      For now, you're right. Who gives a shit what twitter thinks.

                      It's a shame our president seems to, but it is part of his campaign machine so take it for what it's worth.

                      Banker, I hope all is well with you and yours my friend.

                      I agree with the news but Fox started this many years ago, then they crush ratings and CNN decided that they should follow that same model for the other side. No one was pushing hard enough to call out Fox because it served their purpose but now people see how much that can backfire
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #12
                        Originally posted by goduke
                        Ok fine I should have said as long as it can be backed with logical reasoning. But you took the rest of what I said off your response. None of it matters because people don’t listen. Just look at SBR

                        And logical reasoning is not a condition it’s how we should operate. You can have conservative views or liberal views but it should be based on facts and it should be logical. Why do we want to promote nonsense or lies. Don’t we see lies on a daily basis? Isn’t that a big problem? Would you rather have things based on facts or words pulled from the sky?
                        There you again, with things like logical reasoning. I was pretty good at the logic portions of philosophy, they're very math like, but it doesn't apply here.

                        It can be crazy and wild but if it doesn't incite violence, or is like fire in a crowded room, etc, then quit trying to pigeon hole it.

                        But really, when we're talking about Twitter as it is now, you're right to formulate an opinion and try to set some kind of standard of "decency" however "wild" we let it range. I'm certainly not faulting you for that.

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                        • Emily_Haines
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-14-09
                          • 15917

                          #13
                          I reply to many of Ilhan Omar tweets telling her to fukk herself almost every day and never get in trouble.

                          Although my tweet is just one of 1000's of similar replies.
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83686

                            #14
                            ^^KVB you a non pro now? What's up with that bud? I was once a non pro once, once!!!

                            JJ ripped me a new assss.. The pressure was tremendous!!!

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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #15
                              Originally posted by goduke
                              I agree with the news but Fox started this many years ago, then they crush ratings and CNN decided that they should follow that same model for the other side. No one was pushing hard enough to call out Fox because it served their purpose but now people see how much that can backfire
                              Come on man. The FCC doesn't regulate cable news channels. They are only authorized to regulate over-air broadcasts.

                              There is no licensing distinction between news and entertaiment for cable channels. There never was.

                              Sigh.
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                ^^KVB you a non pro now? What's up with that bud? I was once a non pro once, once!!!

                                JJ ripped me a new assss.. The pressure was tremendous!!!

                                They say 2-4 days Jibbs, then I'll be able to give away more than 2 points a day.

                                2-4 days and we become right with the world.
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                  I reply to many of Ilhan Omar tweets telling her to fukk herself almost every day and never get in trouble.

                                  Although my tweet is just one of 1000's of similar replies.
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                                  • lakerboy
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-02-09
                                    • 94379

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                    I reply to many of Ilhan Omar tweets telling her to fukk herself almost every day and never get in trouble.

                                    Although my tweet is just one of 1000's of similar replies.
                                    I guess I should have just said fukk off. I told Timberlake he is retarded and got my Twitter account suspended.

                                    Conservative voices are being banned. This is very scary in a free society.
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #19
                                      That's why I posted the Tim Allen GIF.

                                      I know it's not news, and it wasn't a gov't decision, but the power of the mob might have made an impact on the TV network when he got railroaded out.

                                      Some of it is very distrubing Lakeshow.

                                      Very.

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                                      • TATUMUS
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 1107

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by goduke
                                        As long as it makes common sense. Free speech is fine but when people decide spouting off at the mouth is more important than listening then it’s useless. If one shouts and the other just waits till he’s done to shout back nothing is being accomplished. Our society couldn’t get worse at listening if we tried. The underlying problem with our society and it’s not even close
                                        You're as wrong as ketchup on ice cream...but I respect your right to be wrong. Who is the arbiter of common sense? Anything that you agree with? So if you disagree, then it's OK to censor it? I'm in favor of free speech for all, whether it makes sense or not. If one's speech offends me or if I disagree, I have the equal right to ignore it.
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                                        • Art Vandelay
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-11-06
                                          • 6689

                                          #21
                                          Heard a copy editor for the Philly Enquirer got shitcanned for posting a picture of a Philly landmark trashed by the rioting - His headline: "Buildings Matter Too"...
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                                          • King Mayan
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-22-10
                                            • 21326

                                            #22
                                            Dudes got Fox News full of crazy boomers making up shit and have Facebook to post crazy Alex jones shit. And still cry. Lol
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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by King Mayan
                                              Dudes got Fox News full of crazy boomers making up shit and have Facebook to post crazy Alex jones shit. And still cry. Lol
                                              Bro you sound like you have zero IQ! This topic is not your area of strength.
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                                              • PAULYPOKER
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-06-08
                                                • 36581

                                                #24
                                                Since when has conservative speech been banned in Canada?
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                                                • King Mayan
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-22-10
                                                  • 21326

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                  Bro you sound like you have zero IQ! This topic is not your area of strength.
                                                  Dude you live in Canada and is Indian. Who the fukk are you? Go listen to Fox news(part of main stream media) and stop crying.
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                                                  • lakerboy
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                    • 94379

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                    Since when has conservative speech been banned in Canada?
                                                    Your left wing mob is rallying against the national post and Rex Murphy. It's okay Google him and then you can respond.
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                                                    • lakerboy
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                      • 94379

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by King Mayan
                                                      Dude you live in Canada and is Indian. Who the fukk are you? Go listen to Fox news(part of main stream media) and stop crying.
                                                      But if I listen to fox I'm a Midwest moron right? You listen to them? What you mean who the fukk are you? Are you a racist Hispanic? Yes right? You are going to get angry. I can sense it.
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                                                      • PAULYPOKER
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 12-06-08
                                                        • 36581

                                                        #28
                                                        Wonder why I never heard of either?

                                                        Oh wait,its fukkin Canada....

                                                        Why did you not have either in your title?

                                                        Oh wait,absolutely zero attention.......
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                                                        • JIBBBY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83686

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                                          They say 2-4 days Jibbs, then I'll be able to give away more than 2 points a day.

                                                          2-4 days and we become right with the world.

                                                          Whew!!!
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                                                          • goduke
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-17-10
                                                            • 11580

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                                            Come on man. The FCC doesn't regulate cable news channels. They are only authorized to regulate over-air broadcasts.

                                                            There is no licensing distinction between news and entertaiment for cable channels. There never was.

                                                            Sigh.
                                                            I’m not saying it was. You were saying government should be monitoring these channels and making sure they are out of control and bias right?
                                                            All I was saying was people need to step up and demand this for something to occur. People are complaining now because liberal channels have gotten more out of control with their broadcasts but what I was saying is this should have been addressed when Fox first starting doing this many years ago. But instead it appealed to a base and ratings went up. CNN then copied model years later with the left hoping for the same results
                                                            You’re taking what I say and trying to manipulate it or maybe not understanding not sure which
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                                                            • goduke
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-17-10
                                                              • 11580

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by TATUMUS
                                                              You're as wrong as ketchup on ice cream...but I respect your right to be wrong. Who is the arbiter of common sense? Anything that you agree with? So if you disagree, then it's OK to censor it? I'm in favor of free speech for all, whether it makes sense or not. If one's speech offends me or if I disagree, I have the equal right to ignore it.
                                                              Refer to my correction a few posts down. If speech is based on lies is it still ok? I don’t believe so.
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                                                              • lakerboy
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-02-09
                                                                • 94379

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                                Wonder why I never heard of either?

                                                                Oh wait,its fukkin Canada....

                                                                Why did you not have either in your title?

                                                                Oh wait,absolutely zero attention.......
                                                                Keep trying Paula. I'm glad you admitted conservative speech is banned in the USA. Thanks. 👍
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                                                                • goduke
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-17-10
                                                                  • 11580

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                                  There you again, with things like logical reasoning. I was pretty good at the logic portions of philosophy, they're very math like, but it doesn't apply here.

                                                                  It can be crazy and wild but if it doesn't incite violence, or is like fire in a crowded room, etc, then quit trying to pigeon hole it.

                                                                  But really, when we're talking about Twitter as it is now, you're right to formulate an opinion and try to set some kind of standard of "decency" however "wild" we let it range. I'm certainly not faulting you for that.

                                                                  I just want facts. That’s really it. But if you are saying just let it be the Wild West and anyone can anything fine but what that means is noting is being censored like Laker said it’s just that one voice is louder than the other right now. I don’t think it dies good for anyone to have twitter without people listening but I’m one person I’m not going to be able to fix that and I’m clearly a minority in my thought process that people one day will realize that listening is the step that could really bring people together
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                                                                  • KVB
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                                    • 74817

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by goduke
                                                                    I’m not saying it was. You were saying government should be monitoring these channels and making sure they are out of control and bias right?
                                                                    All I was saying was people need to step up and demand this for something to occur. People are complaining now because liberal channels have gotten more out of control with their broadcasts but what I was saying is this should have been addressed when Fox first starting doing this many years ago. But instead it appealed to a base and ratings went up. CNN then copied model years later with the left hoping for the same results
                                                                    You’re taking what I say and trying to manipulate it or maybe not understanding not sure which
                                                                    Read this...

                                                                    Originally posted by goduke
                                                                    I agree with the news but Fox started this many years ago, then they crush ratings and CNN decided that they should follow that same model for the other side. No one was pushing hard enough to call out Fox because it served their purpose but now people see how much that can backfire
                                                                    You are literally asking for gov't regulation and people to call out cable tv channels because of their fictional programming and obvious propaganda? It's TV for fuksake.

                                                                    People need to step up and demad a change in their entertainment? Did you call out the learning channel for exploiting honey boo boo? LMAO.

                                                                    People can just go watch netflix or of 1000 other cable channels. They don't have to demand that some show writers behave a certain way on 1 or 2 particular channels. Just because the parent company has "news" in the title, it doesn't mean all of its cable channels are news channels.



                                                                    Either way, it's not even the topic here and I never said the government should monitor anything.
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                                                                    • TommieGunshot
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-27-12
                                                                      • 1604

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                      For people who want to express there opinions most media outlets are ONLY allowing what is socially acceptable due to the current events. Facebook CEO Zuckerberg so far has been good but twitter is a complete left wing joke.

                                                                      Democracy is dying. We need to make a stand.
                                                                      The government is using weapons against people to take away their constitutional rights and you're whining that if you try to talk about Hilary on twitter no one listens? You are coming across as an extreme Liberal, insisting a private business must change in order to serve you, but completely accepting whatever the government does.
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