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  • brainfreeze
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-13-14
    • 5689

    #2871
    Originally posted by chargers4222
    pretty weird how god let all those kids die at Sandy Hook
    Place blame correctly... What's weird is how adam lanzas doctor was caught in a sexual misconduct case with a 19 year old ...and may lead to answers in a murder case http://www.madinamerica.com/2016/04/...investigation/

    Who knows what drugs they had lanza on... Go give someone with some flakka a gun, and then blame the consequences on God?
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    • BigDofBA
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-30-09
      • 19312

      #2872
      Originally posted by brainfreeze
      Place blame correctly... What's weird is how adam lanzas doctor was caught in a sexual misconduct case with a 19 year old ...and may lead to answers in a murder case http://www.madinamerica.com/2016/04/...investigation/

      Who knows what drugs they had lanza on... Go give someone with some flakka a gun, and then blame the consequences on God?
      I think what he is trying to say is, why did God allow this to happen if he is all powerful? Those kids did not deserve to die. It was unfair their lives were taken from them.

      Among the several other reasons I don't believe in God, all you have to do is look at all of the horrible things in the world that happen every day. Religious people will blame it on sin but good people die every day for no reason. Babies die, kids die, etc. It's horrible.

      If there really was a God and he created this world, he did a horrible job. He created a world in which there is disease, death, and destruction. He created a world in which humans are fragile and have short life spans and natural disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes can happen.

      If there really was a God, his plan sucked. First Adam and Eve screwed up....then Moses screwed up....finally he had to send his son down to fix things. How could God not see all the faults with his plan if he is all knowing? This is the best he could do? If God really wanted people to be "saved" it would be very easy for him to prove he exists but he doesn't.

      Trust me, I really wish there was eternal life....a place in which I could live forever on golden streets with everything I've ever wanted. With that said, I've come to my own conclusions so I'm going to focus on living the life I know I have to it's fullest. I'm going to focus on being the best husband, father, etc. I can be. I'm still going to live a good life and do the right thing....much like I hope most Christians do....I'm just not going to fake that I believe in something just "in case" hell exists. NO, I'm just doing the right thing because it's the right thing to do.
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      • bobbywaves
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-06-08
        • 13280

        #2873
        Originally posted by TheAntFather
        So you're taking 13 pills everyday for all these sicknesses?
        That's what I stated, exactly what didn't you comprehend?

        Where is your supposed god to help prevent or to heal you?
        He was obviously with me in the hospital & spared me from certain death. Not many survive a widowmaker heart attack with 100% main artery blockage.

        You dying of a heart attack would do this society great. You stiffed over $100,000 points from down south and autodonk and you want to come out and criticize someone else for doing it? Fk u punk and everything you stand for. You think repenting to a false religion will make everything you did bad go away or be all good again? The FACT that you need a religion to justify your thoughts and bad acts against others shows a lot about your character and how weak minded you are.

        No one that knows you or anybody online wouldn't miss you or even notice you gone if you died. You are a weak minded follower incapable of any logical thought.
        You're just a faithless lost soul, who will dance with the devil for all eternity. This is fact, not speculation. When you're in Hell you're going to be like, "damn, that Waves dude was right." But it will be too late for you to repent.

        Ignorant comments coming from a constant broke dikk, unethical douchebag, who cheats poker rollover & hacks password protected poker tourney's. No bigger piece of chit on this site than you, although it's fairly close with Donkey & POS69.

        Must be something in the Texas water, since all you jackasses reside there.
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        • BigDofBA
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-30-09
          • 19312

          #2874
          So if someone survives a heart attack it's because of God?

          I don't understand. Why would God let you have a heart attack in the first place? So you could suffer and thank him?

          What about the religious people that don't survive heart attacks or disease? Did God give up on those people?

          It's like when people survive a plan crash and thank God while 70 other passengers die. Like WTF.
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          • bobbywaves
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-06-08
            • 13280

            #2875
            Originally posted by brainfreeze
            You are always getting yourself in mess with forum members because you like to be prideful and boastful, and you like stirring hate calling others losers and names, you are confused
            I'm a str8 shooter who calls it as I see it, that offends people. Losers also don't like winners, misery loves company. I'm obviously not here for cyber friends, so your comment is no concern to me.

            you're right, my past isn't great, but I am forgiven as I have accepted forgiveness (God tells us call on Jesus and accept Him, we are forgiven) and am moving forward with my life. I've shown that I've changed and am constantly changing to better myself and live sinless..but we aren't talking about my past (which is also a testament of my present how God can change a wretch that I was)...we are talking about your present.
            Why are you concerning yourself with my present? Despite what you may think, I'm fine & in a good place. All I need is God, I don't need any forum members trying to bring me down to their low level.

            you don't know what I've done, or given...all you can account for is points... (Which I've donated a lot of as well) and what type of " good " person walks around prideful and arrogantly calling people " losers for taking out point loans " ... You act like a jerk bob, you don't come off loving or good at all...and when you try to you only wash it in with more of your own nonsense.
            I do know what you've done, I can see your pts history. Simply stated a fact, I donated more & gave out more loans than you. Charity donations & giving loans is not typical behavior of a "jerk," so your comment makes no sense. Soliciting pt loans are for weak minded people, who lack the discipline to generate their own pts. Guess I was a "jerk" when I helped you out with a pts loan...hypocrite.

            are you trying to tell us what musicians God likes and doesn't ? God created all people who turn musicians, do you think he's with ozzy as he's biting off bats heads or manson as he says hail satan? ..again, more of your confusion passing through..but hint of advise " don't put musicians on any levels with God " and the only thing I'm sure of is you're confused ..I'll let God speak for Himself
            So what exactly would God have against the Boss, who He created & loves? Does Bruce "bite off bats heads," does he say "hail Satan," is he in the band Slayer? So your argument holds no water.

            thats the problem, you don't know when you're sinning ...you really need to keep on your mind " what would Jesus do " in situations ...but then again you think God wants a musician " to have his own thread to " ..crazy talk, but go ahead bob...as for attending " mass ", you are only fooling yourself, change will come from God not from thinking " your good " and attending " mass "...feeling all churchy on Sunday's then back to calling people names and causing strife on Mondays.
            Apparently you don't read all the ignorant threads posted in the Saloon, mostly created by Donkey. Yet, the Boss having his own thread would be "crazy talk" that somehow would offend God.

            Church is God's house, why you have a problem with me keeping one of God's 10 commandments? Causing "strife" on a forum where people steal pts from me, is somehow a problem I initiated? Your ignorance is astounding.

            you think you know God, the way you carry yourself, you show you do not ... I think if you humbled yourself and stopped being such a haughty spirit than you could know God
            I know God is a fact. So you pretend to know my personal life? I don't have people stealing from me in my personal life, like I do on the forum. So people in my personal life are treated with the respect they deserve. The asshats who steal from me on this forum are spoken to harshly & appropriately. Again, I'm not the least bit concerned if that somehow offends you.

            so I'm satisfied " God is good " and He's moving through people's hearts and minds.
            I'm satisfied as well. I already believe in God, don't need your convincing.

            im not picking any fight with you. I'm just giving you the facts. It was a disrespectful comment, and you only dig on by telling yourself " you know what God thinks " ...and there is no misinfo I'm spreading YOUR POPE HAD A MUSLIM IMAM OVER TO SING IN VATICAN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, these are FACTS ...he isn't the first pope to do crazy things though.
            Again, your time would be much better served addressing Atheists. Not someone like myself, who already believes in God. It wasn't a disrespectful comment at all, you just get off on starting crap apparently.

            What's your point & beef with the Pope? Are you ignorantly suggesting all Muslim people are bad? Are you denying the fact the Pope is a holy man who obviously believes in God? Why did people (not only Catholics), come out in record numbers just to catch a glimpse of this "crazy" Pope?
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            • BigDofBA
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-30-09
              • 19312

              #2876
              Any fellow atheists find it ironic "Christians" are fighting amongst themselves on an Internet message board devoted to gambling? All over meaningless things like points too. Lol

              God would be dissapointed but the good thing about religion is that you always get a mulligan for whatever wrong you do. You can't just ask God for forgiveness and you're fine.

              It sucks that some guy who is in jail for murder will probably goto heaven bc he is a born again Christian and I won't goto heaven even though I've led a good ethical life without doing any harm to anyone.

              I helped my neighbors in need, fellow man, and do all the right things but God is going to accept all those criminals over me because I won't fake believing in him.

              I won't get in because my human brain tells me it's stupid to believe in the super natural. My human brain tells me to do right because it's the right thing to do, not because I want to be rewarded when I die. Smh.

              I'm honest with myself knowing if I'm wrong I goto hell. I do the right thing even though I don't believe in getting a reward (heaven) for it. All the while these criminals who did harm to society will get in over me if they just ask to be saved.

              I wouldn't want to spend eternity with a diety that had those rules anyway.
              Last edited by BigDofBA; 08-24-16, 11:03 PM.
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              • bobbywaves
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-06-08
                • 13280

                #2877
                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                I wouldn't want to spend eternity with a diety that had those rules anyway.
                Then you have nothing to worry about, as non believers won't be getting into Heaven anyway.

                But when you see Satan's rules you'll have a different opinion about how easy God's rules were, especially considering you claim to have led a good ethical life. Unfortunately, it will be too late for you to be saved after you die.

                This life is very short compared to eternity. But if you want to play Russian Roulette with your soul & eternal afterlife, by not wanting to accept God, then that's obviously your right, your business, & choice you're entitled to make.

                Are you suggesting 100% of the people who believe in God, are doing it solely for a "reward?"
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                • BigDofBA
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-30-09
                  • 19312

                  #2878
                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                  Are you suggesting 100% of the people who believe in God, are doing it solely for a "reward?"
                  Of course not.

                  I'm just saying that people probably want to believe there is this wonderful afterlife in which they live forever. As a result, it's in their best interest to pretend like they believe "just in case" it exists. Plus, the thought of hell scares the shit out of people.

                  It doesn't surprise me that people are scared shitless not to question religion. If they started looking into it and questioning it, they would have serious doubts.

                  I would love for there to be this wonderful god and this great afterlife with gold streets and all of this wonderful stuff. With that said, I also wanted Santa Clause and the tooth fairy to be real to when I was a little kid. God is like the Santa Clause for adults.

                  There are just too many reasons to doubt God's existence. You can start with science, logic, and everything we know about life. In my heart I don't believe in God. As a result, I'm not going to fake it to fit into society or put on a front hoping that I'm wrong and he does exist.

                  I don't see how any human being with an ounce of intelligence can't doubt the existence of God.

                  Take the story of Abraham for example. In one scripture it says God is this all knowing wondering and perfect being and in another scripture God is ordering Abraham to kill his son to see if he is faithful to God. Shouldn't have God already known Abraham was faithful to him?

                  If God is real, it would be very easy for him to prove it to mankind. There is a reason all of these miracles in the Bible no longer happen. If God just parted the Pacific Ocean today like he parted the Red Sea, he could save all humanity. Why does God choose not to do this when he supposedly loves us?

                  Do you see how can logically deduce their is no God? Having faith is a ridiculous reason to believe in something when there is no real evidence. Surely God should know that his existence is doubtful and debatable. After all, he sent his son long before I was born and supposedly performed all of these miracles when man was so stupid they didn't even know the earth was round. Why wouldn't I doubt him?

                  The Greeks thought the God Poseidon caused earthquakes. We all know that's bullshit. When we're all dead in and gone people will look back on us in hundreds of years and think we weren't very smart.

                  The Bible says "thou shall not Kill" in one verse and in others God is wiping out humanity with a flood or telling people to stone their wife if she isn't a virgin. WTF
                  Last edited by BigDofBA; 08-25-16, 12:31 AM.
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                  • brainfreeze
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-13-14
                    • 5689

                    #2879
                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                    Any fellow atheists find it ironic "Christians" are fighting amongst themselves on an Internet message board devoted to gambling? All over meaningless things like points too. Lol

                    God would be dissapointed but the good thing about religion is that you always get a mulligan for whatever wrong you do. You can't just ask God for forgiveness and you're fine.

                    It sucks that some guy who is in jail for murder will probably goto heaven bc he is a born again Christian and I won't goto heaven even though I've led a good ethical life without doing any harm to anyone.

                    I helped my neighbors in need, fellow man, and do all the right things but God is going to accept all those criminals over me because I won't fake believing in him.

                    I won't get in because my human brain tells me it's stupid to believe in the super natural. My human brain tells me to do right because it's the right thing to do, not because I want to be rewarded when I die. Smh.

                    I'm honest with myself knowing if I'm wrong I goto hell. I do the right thing even though I don't believe in getting a reward (heaven) for it. All the while these criminals who did harm to society will get in over me if they just ask to be saved.

                    I wouldn't want to spend eternity with a diety that had those rules anyway.
                    i wish I could help you with your walk... I wish I could help you with your faith, every man walks at this alone though, church pastors & friends are there but you have to go about accepting Him on your own..and it starts right there with what you seem not to be able to digest, His Word...

                    Psalms 19:7-10

                    7The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.8The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.9The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.10More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
                    Hebrews 4:12

                    12For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


                    You have to stop looking objectively, and look into your own heart. You are not sinless. You are not perfect. You need Jesus, as we all do...(who is perfect, who died for us & rose again) stop trying to put yourself in His shoes and worry about what He does and how He does it, worry about yourself, your family, your neighbors, helping the world,... If you paid more attention to you, and cared more about life to want to understand maybe you could get further with God and until you rethink it, you will be stuck exactly where your mind is leading you, and that's to satan...

                    Btw the story with Abraham is prophetic, God said " I will provide myself a lamb " and He did so thousands of years later with Jesus Christ " the lamb of God " sacrificing His one and only son...that whosoever believe in Him shall not perish ....but have everlasting life. He wanted Abraham to understand what God was willing to do for humanity.. Living a perfect selfless life, and then dying as men die, but in the most crucial death.. Humiliated, spat on, cursed, then hanging their for hours and hours on a cross... Do you know how much torture that is, because you can never put to much pressure on a certain spot the pain would be unbearable, so one has to constantly shift from putting weight on the arms than weight on the feet, then shifting between and balancing it out trying to spare themselves as much as possible... Torture...and even did it for you, ones that would deny, deny and deny Him..

                    time to stop trying to figure out with your limited understanding as a human why God does, and time to focus more on His Words of salvation for your families life.. Read the gospel, try to really want to understand, not cherry pick a verse that you have no clue where it's going and then argue that verse.. If you really want to understand Him, let Him into your life, believe ...have faith that would I Just said is true, that He died for you, and then start reading the New Testament ..
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                    • brainfreeze
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-13-14
                      • 5689

                      #2880
                      Originally posted by bobbywaves
                      I'm a str8 shooter who calls it as I see it, that offends people. Losers also don't like winners, misery loves company. I'm obviously not here for cyber friends, so your comment is no concern to me.



                      Why are you concerning yourself with my present? Despite what you may think, I'm fine & in a good place. All I need is God, I don't need any forum members trying to bring me down to their low level.



                      I do know what you've done, I can see your pts history. Simply stated a fact, I donated more & gave out more loans than you. Charity donations & giving loans is not typical behavior of a "jerk," so your comment makes no sense. Soliciting pt loans are for weak minded people, who lack the discipline to generate their own pts. Guess I was a "jerk" when I helped you out with a pts loan...hypocrite.



                      So what exactly would God have against the Boss, who He created & loves? Does Bruce "bite off bats heads," does he say "hail Satan," is he in the band Slayer? So your argument holds no water.



                      Apparently you don't read all the ignorant threads posted in the Saloon, mostly created by Donkey. Yet, the Boss having his own thread would be "crazy talk" that somehow would offend God.

                      Church is God's house, why you have a problem with me keeping one of God's 10 commandments? Causing "strife" on a forum where people steal pts from me, is somehow a problem I initiated? Your ignorance is astounding.



                      I know God is a fact. So you pretend to know my personal life? I don't have people stealing from me in my personal life, like I do on the forum. So people in my personal life are treated with the respect they deserve. The asshats who steal from me on this forum are spoken to harshly & appropriately. Again, I'm not the least bit concerned if that somehow offends you.



                      I'm satisfied as well. I already believe in God, don't need your convincing.



                      Again, your time would be much better served addressing Atheists. Not someone like myself, who already believes in God. It wasn't a disrespectful comment at all, you just get off on starting crap apparently.

                      What's your point & beef with the Pope? Are you ignorantly suggesting all Muslim people are bad? Are you denying the fact the Pope is a holy man who obviously believes in God? Why did people (not only Catholics), come out in record numbers just to catch a glimpse of this "crazy" Pope?
                      Not going over all this, you should just read over what's in bold a few times ...maybe it will sink in. Yes, I value my time more than to keep going with this, I said what I had to say, and your rebuttals are you trying to mop up what has already came out of your brain, but maybe you are to blind to see it. It's time to look hard at yourself, and pierce into your own cloudy confusion.
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                      • bobbywaves
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-06-08
                        • 13280

                        #2881
                        Originally posted by brainfreeze
                        Not going over all this, you should just read over what's in bold a few times ...maybe it will sink in. Yes, I value my time more than to keep going with this, I said what I had to say, and your rebuttals are you trying to mop up what has already came out of your brain, but maybe you are to blind to see it. It's time to look hard at yourself, and pierce into your own cloudy confusion.
                        I read over the bold print several times. Apparently nothing has sunk in yet, as I stand by my comments.

                        There were no "mop ups," my rebuttals were for clarification purposes.

                        My vision is not so great from amblyopia & blood vessel damage from diabetes, but fortunately I'm not blind yet. I took your advice & looked hard at myself. But the only cloudy confusion I could find is, why do I continue wasting my time posting at SBR?
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                        • brainfreeze
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-13-14
                          • 5689

                          #2882
                          Originally posted by bobbywaves
                          I read over the bold print several times. Apparently nothing has sunk in yet, as I stand by my comments.

                          There were no "mop ups," my rebuttals were for clarification purposes.

                          My vision is not so great from amblyopia & blood vessel damage from diabetes, but fortunately I'm not blind yet. I took your advice & looked hard at myself. But the only cloudy confusion I could find is, why do I continue wasting my time posting at SBR?
                          you just got done saying that loans are for the weak minded, and then that you gave me a loan, therefore calling me weak minded (which you also call people losers for doing so as well) why? Why do that? I've cashed out hundreds of dollars, donated about a thousand (in points) and yismens & others charity drives... Why say that about me? and you cause yourself more trouble because I'm not the only one who does point loans. Then you add in getting snotty with people calling them broke this and loser that .. And rubbing in their faces every other day you beat them out of this, or they made a dumb call there... People come here to get a few laughs, socialize, look at what people are saying about a specific ball game, or whatever, maybe talk poker tourneys or challenges, and maybe cash a pizza now and then... Do you think people want to see you going at it with someone in every other thread... It's like you live for that stuff bob, that's what I thought anyways, said to myself " this guy must really likes all the fighting and belittling " just drop your pride man,

                          stop calling people names or " weak minded " because you feel they are... Stop bragging about your points balance, be loving to people, be peaceful, you say you follow Jesus right? Act like it man, because if not you're just more part of a reason why people don't believe ...they say " that's how Chritiams act " I don't want it be any part of that.. Just something to think about man, it's ok to be competitive in a friendly atmosphere or even bragging in a healthy way that both parties get a laugh...but what you are doing isn't healthy .. As for the ds thing, you just rubbed people the wrong way, I'd apologize to tat if you said or did something wrong to him, then give him 5k points or so, give ds a thousand points or so, and see how you can hash it out...

                          just trying to help you here, I know you like the place. That's my 2 cents, just something to think about and maybe pray on...let's not get to off track here, this is Gods thread, let's keep the focus centered on Him if you don't mind, pm if you'd like..thanks
                          Last edited by brainfreeze; 08-25-16, 02:30 AM.
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                          • maggiethebestdog
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-21-13
                            • 6700

                            #2883
                            Originally posted by BigDofBA
                            Of course not.

                            I'm just saying that people probably want to believe there is this wonderful afterlife in which they live forever. As a result, it's in their best interest to pretend like they believe "just in case" it exists. Plus, the thought of hell scares the shit out of people.

                            It doesn't surprise me that people are scared shitless not to question religion. If they started looking into it and questioning it, they would have serious doubts.

                            I would love for there to be this wonderful god and this great afterlife with gold streets and all of this wonderful stuff. With that said, I also wanted Santa Clause and the tooth fairy to be real to when I was a little kid. God is like the Santa Clause for adults.

                            There are just too many reasons to doubt God's existence. You can start with science, logic, and everything we know about life. In my heart I don't believe in God. As a result, I'm not going to fake it to fit into society or put on a front hoping that I'm wrong and he does exist.

                            I don't see how any human being with an ounce of intelligence can't doubt the existence of God.

                            Take the story of Abraham for example. In one scripture it says God is this all knowing wondering and perfect being and in another scripture God is ordering Abraham to kill his son to see if he is faithful to God. Shouldn't have God already known Abraham was faithful to him?

                            If God is real, it would be very easy for him to prove it to mankind. There is a reason all of these miracles in the Bible no longer happen. If God just parted the Pacific Ocean today like he parted the Red Sea, he could save all humanity. Why does God choose not to do this when he supposedly loves us?

                            Do you see how can logically deduce their is no God? Having faith is a ridiculous reason to believe in something when there is no real evidence. Surely God should know that his existence is doubtful and debatable. After all, he sent his son long before I was born and supposedly performed all of these miracles when man was so stupid they didn't even know the earth was round. Why wouldn't I doubt him?

                            The Greeks thought the God Poseidon caused earthquakes. We all know that's bullshit. When we're all dead in and gone people will look back on us in hundreds of years and think we weren't very smart.

                            The Bible says "thou shall not Kill" in one verse and in others God is wiping out humanity with a flood or telling people to stone their wife if she isn't a virgin. WTF

                            Just my opinion, let crazy fight with crazy. Just more proof of how arrogant and evil they are. It is frikken hilarious.
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                            • trytrytry
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-13-06
                              • 23650

                              #2884
                              Originally posted by TheAntFather
                              So you're taking 13 pills everyday for all these sicknesses? Where is your supposed god to help prevent or to heal you? You are so ignorant and don't know shit.

                              You dying of a heart attack would do this society great. You stiffed over $100,000 points from down south and autodonk and you want to come out and criticize someone else for doing it? Fk u punk and everything you stand for. You think repenting to a false religion will make everything you did bad go away or be all good again? The FACT that you need a religion to justify your thoughts and bad acts against others shows a lot about your character and how weak minded you are.

                              No one that knows you or anybody online wouldn't miss you or even notice you gone if you died. You are a weak minded follower incapable of any logical thought.
                              The Ant Father would you come into this bet points forum this thread and clarify your progress and plan here?

                              thanks


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                              • bobbywaves
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-06-08
                                • 13280

                                #2885
                                The only arrogant thing I see in this thread, are those with no faith in God. Just my humble opinion.
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                                • maggiethebestdog
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-21-13
                                  • 6700

                                  #2886
                                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                  The only arrogant thing I see in this thread, are those with no faith in God. Just my humble opinion.
                                  I know. That's the problem.
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                                  • bobbywaves
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-06-08
                                    • 13280

                                    #2887
                                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                    I know. That's the problem.
                                    Absolutely.
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                                    • BigDofBA
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-30-09
                                      • 19312

                                      #2888
                                      Guys, let's try to stay civil to each other here.

                                      While I don't think Bobby survived his heart attack because of God, I am thankful he made it.

                                      As for Brainfreeze, I totally disagree with some of his arguments but we probably both lead good lives regardless of beliefs.

                                      I want to understand why people believe in God and I want people to understand why I don't. Just keep an open mind.
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                                      • maggiethebestdog
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-21-13
                                        • 6700

                                        #2889
                                        Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                        Guys, let's try to stay civil to each other here.

                                        While I don't think Bobby survived his heart attack because of God, I am thankful he made it.

                                        As for Brainfreeze, I totally disagree with some of his arguments but we probably both lead good lives regardless of beliefs.

                                        I want to understand why people believe in God and I want people to understand why I don't. Just keep an open mind.

                                        That is all fine. But I will not let their discrimination of people fly no matter what insane reason they have. Religion created bigotry and opression so don't think it isn't important to expose them as the ignorant fools they are.
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                                        • BigDofBA
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-30-09
                                          • 19312

                                          #2890
                                          Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                          That is all fine. But I will not let their discrimination of people fly no matter what insane reason they have. Religion created bigotry and opression so don't think it isn't important to expose them as the ignorant fools they are.
                                          I already pointed out the scripture that advocate slavery and the stoning of women. No one really responded to those.....I'm not surprised. It's hard to defend.
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                                          • brainfreeze
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                                            #2891
                                            Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                            I already pointed out the scripture that advocate slavery and the stoning of women. No one really responded to those.....I'm not surprised. It's hard to defend.
                                            What do you mean I didn't respond? ... You just don't seem to like the responses. For the women subject I said there is order, and for slavery I said it is a punishment for a people. This is a way of disciplining serious wrong doing, and only for a time... For instance Jews came out of slavery in Egypt only to go back into slavery in Babylon ...then freed again.. Again, God doesn't discriminate ..if people are wrong as whole they will pay the price.. Morally of the story, don't sacrifice your children to moloch or worship other false gods..and don't let those in power allow it..

                                            are you going to dismiss me saying this ?
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                                            • bobbywaves
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                                              • 05-06-08
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                                              #2892
                                              Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                              I already pointed out the scripture that advocate slavery and the stoning of women. No one really responded to those.....I'm not surprised. It's hard to defend.
                                              I'll point out the scripture of Jesus preventing a woman's stoning: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...ch=John+8:1-11
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                                              • brainfreeze
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                                                #2893
                                                Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                I'll point out the scripture of Jesus preventing a woman's stoning: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...ch=John+8:1-11
                                                It's like they only want to read the Old Testament ( of the flesh ) they don't want to hear any of this where Jesus saves the adulterous woman...they don't want to hear the message that Jesus paid the ultimate price for their sins... It's like they just want to forget Christ is what makes us Christians ... If you want to (just) talk about Old Testament, that's for Judaism ...
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                                                • b1slickguy
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                                                  • 11-24-11
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                                                  #2894
                                                  Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                  It's like they only want to read the Old Testament ( of the flesh ) they don't want to hear any of this where Jesus saves the adulterous woman...they don't want to hear the message that Jesus paid the ultimate price for their sins... It's like they just want to forget Christ is what makes us Christians ... If you want to (just) talk about Old Testament, that's for Judaism ...
                                                  Does the new testament speak of a different deity than the old testament?
                                                  Or did they keep him and add in a new superhero for the sequel?
                                                  The bar has been set pretty high for those thinking of writing the third installment.
                                                  Nothing less than superman and 12 of his friends for today's techno, media driven world would suffice.
                                                  Of course the character akin to robin would be left out for obvious reasons.

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                                                  • brainfreeze
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                                                    #2895
                                                    Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                                    Does the new testament speak of a different deity than the old testament?
                                                    Or did they keep him and add in a new superhero for the sequel?
                                                    The bar has been set pretty high for those thinking of writing the third installment.
                                                    Nothing less than superman and 12 of his friends for today's techno, media driven world would suffice.
                                                    Of course the character akin to robin would be left out for obvious reasons.
                                                    Jesus is before Abraham was ..and will always be, the difference is back then, there were sacrifices. They would sin and would sacrifice a lamb or a 2 dove and so fourth.. They would also charge and convict the guilty of major sin against the commandments, and they'd be punished justly..Now that Jesus has came and conquered sin and death, we are free from those burdens... He is the sacrifice for our sins, and those who are truly sorry, are truly forgiven ... It's just part of the story...not a sequel. You could understand, if you could take heed to understand the full story and prophecy...
                                                    Last edited by brainfreeze; 08-27-16, 03:49 AM. Reason: auto correct
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                                                    • brainfreeze
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                                                      #2896
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                                                      • Nitrogen
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                                                        #2897
                                                        The "god" Christians (and other single deity) religions pray to is either

                                                        - not omnipotent
                                                        - a first rate asshole

                                                        Oh, god saves some fat gambler from his heart attack - he must love him. He allows kids to be gunned down before they turn 9 years old..he gave us free will...he's too complicated to know his will. But he's crazy jealous of other fake gods.

                                                        Religion creates narcissists. "Oh, God loves me, he got me that promotion at work. Are they still talking about that school shooting on TV? Geez, move on already!"
                                                        Last edited by Nitrogen; 08-27-16, 02:54 AM.
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                                                        • Seaweed
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                                                          #2898
                                                          Catholic Church is the 1 and only true church established by Jesus Christ.

                                                          Every Christian should have the fullness in faith and be Catholic
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                                                          • xdodger19
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                                                            • 11-20-12
                                                            • 18014

                                                            #2899
                                                            Atheist simple game
                                                            Create a religion strawman
                                                            then claim the religion strawman and reason are in opposition.
                                                            Then claim their made up stories are based on reason
                                                            Then insult whoever doesn't believe their lies
                                                            Atheists claim to use reason, but when you have a dialogue
                                                            with them they don't reason at all, they play games with words
                                                            and use equivocation fallacies all the time, make absurd logical leaps
                                                            So atheists claim to use reason, then once you point out there fallacies
                                                            they just start over reasserting the same lie you refuted the day before
                                                            as if it never happened. Then one has to come to the conclusion
                                                            that atheists are liars.
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                                                            • xdodger19
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                                                              #2900
                                                              The problem with even writing this is
                                                              the atheist won't even comprehend it
                                                              or bother too, they will claim a word doesn't mean what it means
                                                              or use some fallacious argument.
                                                              The real issue with atheism is they think they
                                                              can pass off nonsense reasoning as valid, because they
                                                              figure no one will actually call them on it, and if they do
                                                              simply start lying again the next day.
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                                                              • Nitrogen
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                                                                #2901
                                                                Originally posted by xdodger19
                                                                or bother too, they will claim a word doesn't mean what it means
                                                                like the word "too" being incorrectly used? (jk)

                                                                It's your claim - the proof belongs to those making the extraordinary claims.

                                                                If I claim Tupac didn't die, is me saying "I really really really know in my heart he didn't die" proof enough?

                                                                Should it be up to me to prove it, or up to you to disprove it if you don't believe me?

                                                                Last edited by Nitrogen; 08-27-16, 05:34 AM.
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                                                                • b1slickguy
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                                                                  • 11-24-11
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                                                                  #2902
                                                                  Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                                  1000 years ago the tables were turned.

                                                                  The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims, occurring from 1096 and 1291, primarily ...
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                                                                  • maggiethebestdog
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                                                                    • 12-21-13
                                                                    • 6700

                                                                    #2903
                                                                    Originally posted by xdodger19
                                                                    The problem with even writing this is
                                                                    the atheist won't even comprehend it
                                                                    or bother too, they will claim a word doesn't mean what it means
                                                                    or use some fallacious argument.
                                                                    The real issue with atheism is they think they
                                                                    can pass off nonsense reasoning as valid, because they
                                                                    figure no one will actually call them on it, and if they do
                                                                    simply start lying again the next day.
                                                                    SCARY STUFF. Delusional.
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                                                                    • convick
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                                                                      • 11-03-11
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                                                                      #2904
                                                                      Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                                      SCARY STUFF. Delusional.
                                                                      Christianity, yes.
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                                                                      • brainfreeze
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                                                                        #2905
                                                                        Originally posted by Nitrogen
                                                                        like the word "too" being incorrectly used? (jk)

                                                                        It's your claim - the proof belongs to those making the extraordinary claims.

                                                                        If I claim Tupac didn't die, is me saying "I really really really know in my heart he didn't die" proof enough?

                                                                        Should it be up to me to prove it, or up to you to disprove it if you don't believe me?

                                                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
                                                                        This ain't tupac, and you have to care enough about the world and yourself to delligently search your heart and Gods Words to realize how truly sinful you are, and that you need the Messiah, Christ Jesus... Our testimony (that you obviously don't believe) is something to help people as yourself turn the corner and seek for yourselves. We aren't here to prove " without a shadow of doubt ". If He " proved " it to everyone than were does faith, trust, love, fall in...it doesn't. Search your heart and the Gospel of Christ ...
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