Lou!! DSI Poker Final -Starting Stacks - Blind Times??

**BeerDog99** · 09-05-12, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by aggieshawn

Lou,

How do you plan on setting up the final tourney format?

Starting Stacks?
Blind Times?

For nice tourney like this, I think we would like to have something more competitive than a shovefest by the 5th blind level?

What do rest of you poker players suggest?

+1 on this. This should be a deepstack event with long blind levels. Lots of $$ at stake, deserves a good structure.

**Enkhbat** · 09-05-12, 08:45 PM

Shovefest

**downsouth** · 09-05-12, 09:33 PM

please keep it like it is now. Blind levels decent, dont wanna be stuck playing it all day

**BeerDog99** · 09-05-12, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

please keep it like it is now. Blind levels decent, dont wanna be stuck playing it all day

LOL, says Mr. Turbo Shark....

**4uk4life** · 09-05-12, 09:40 PM

Super Turbo. My goal is 27th. Let's do this

**bobbywaves** · 09-05-12, 10:29 PM

Deepstack would be the proper format.

**4uk4life** · 09-05-12, 10:44 PM

Just a wild guess but I think we'll start with 5k

**slikec** · 09-06-12, 03:02 AM

I vote for 3k stack and double time for each blind level.

**k13** · 09-06-12, 07:44 AM

It won't be anymore "competitive" no matter what blinds you use.

The format is fine, gets to the point.

**GUMMO77** · 09-06-12, 08:29 AM

I like the 5k starting stack.

Here are some reasons why:

Some posters will get hammered during the longer tournament, so +ev for the rest of us.

Guys like Downsouth will get bored and shove with A9 off, so +ev for the rest of us.

Other players like (name edited by professional moderator) will get hungry and start over playing hands, so +ev for the rest of us.

**downsouth** · 09-06-12, 08:38 AM

No matter format your still going to hit point with probably a similar number of players where you have to put your money in or blind away. Just is a matter of whether it is 2 hours or 5.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 09-06-12, 09:46 AM

I think it would be proper for a bigger starting stack and longer blind levels as well..

**Optional** · 09-06-12, 10:21 AM

Yeah change it up from this format I can't win at anymore for sure.

**Conan** · 09-06-12, 11:10 AM

im not in the tourni but i would like to see it be based more on skill and the longer it is the more that will be true.

**borednaz** · 09-06-12, 02:53 PM

Give everyone 500 chips and start at 25/50 blinds. God I miss the Ultra Turbos! I'd love to see people trying to figure out here when to shove.

**BigDaddy** · 09-06-12, 02:57 PM

7k chips to start

20 min blinds

**BeerDog99** · 09-06-12, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

7k chips to start

20 min blinds

That is too good to hope for but I would love that!

**FuzzyDunlop** · 09-06-12, 07:52 PM

10k, 15 minutes, start antes after first break. You guys are playing for big bucks, should take 3-4 hours.

**aggieshawn** · 09-06-12, 08:53 PM

The 40-50 man tournies take exactly 2 hours. I think this tourney should last 5 hours with a full field of 86 players.

Plu having the blinds slow down at the final table. Increase the Antes.

7k and 20 min blinds would last how long roughly?

**4uk4life** · 09-06-12, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by FuzzyDunlop

10k, 15 minutes, start antes after first break. You guys are playing for big bucks, should take 3-4 hours.

10K? most of us degens on this forum have never had $5,000 at one time. you give some of these guys 10k and we'll be at the tables until Monday.

**downsouth** · 09-06-12, 10:00 PM

5 hours... Really, come on , minus first and second its really not that much cash. Do you really wanna spend 5 hours grinding a freeroll for a 1/86 shot to hit it big.

2 hour tourney becomes push strategy at an hour and half. Will not be much different in 5 hour tourney.

**aggieshawn** · 09-07-12, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by 4uk4life

10K? most of us degens on this forum have never had $5,000 at one time. you give some of these guys 10k and we'll be at the tables until Monday.

BUT Imagine the threads .......

Blinds are 20/40 and he shoves 10k all in with 79 suited preflop and I call with AA. Flop is 777 and I am drawing dead (ok 99%). RIGGED.

**aggieshawn** · 09-07-12, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by downsouth

5 hours... Really, come on , minus first and second its really not that much cash. Do you really wanna spend 5 hours grinding a freeroll for a 1/86 shot to hit it big.

2 hour tourney becomes push strategy at an hour and half. Will not be much different in 5 hour tourney.

Flip side to this point is some/most of us all played over 100+ hours in tournament play (plus all those rollover hours) to qualify for this final tournament. Having a short final tournament would kind of short change the effort it took to qualify.

It is a big promo poker tourney and deserves a dedicated winner that put forth the time and effort to claim the prize.

It is not a 15k cut cards contest but a poker tournament final of friends and foes.

**GUMMO77** · 09-07-12, 01:26 AM

I'm with you, Aggie. It wouldn't feel right if this tournament played out the same as any other.

It deserves better.

I have a feeling SBR already knows the structure.

**thetrinity** · 09-07-12, 09:27 AM

copy one of the winning poker network deep stack structures 15 mins 5k chips

**thetrinity** · 09-07-12, 09:28 AM

i think the satellites next week should have more play as well maybe the same structure as the professional tournament saturday

**thetrinity** · 09-07-12, 09:29 AM

ideally 86 players tournament should last 4-5 hours.

**k13** · 09-07-12, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by aggieshawn

The 40-50 man tournies take exactly 2 hours. I think this tourney should last 5 hours with a full field of 86 players.

Plu having the blinds slow down at the final table. Increase the Antes.

7k and 20 min blinds would last how long roughly?

5 hours for 86 players?

I can finish a tourney with a 1000 players in 5 hours on PS with a much larger prize pool.

Sitting around for an hour while everyone is set/nut mining.

**k13** · 09-07-12, 01:41 PM

Make the blinds 10 mins and stacks 3k.

That's deep enough for online.

**BeerDog99** · 09-07-12, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by k13

5 hours for 86 players?

I can finish a tourney with a 1000 players in 5 hours on PS with a much larger prize pool.

Sitting around for an hour while everyone is set/nut mining.

I find it very ironic that a lot of the people that don't like people playing tighter (e.g. set/nut mining) are also the ones complaining when people gamble it up and win with crap cards.

You can't have it both ways.

Also, in the deepstack tourney's it is a lot less about set mining and nitting it up because there are more chips in play. It allows people to make plays and either get caught, coolered or bad beated and still a possibility to recover. Whereas in the normal tourneys (3k or less), if you make one or max two plays where you are beat, you are in push/fold position very quickly!

**BigDaddy** · 09-07-12, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by BeerDog99

I find it very ironic that a lot of the people that don't like people playing tighter (e.g. set/nut mining) are also the ones complaining when people gamble it up and win with crap cards.

You can't have it both ways.

Also, in the deepstack tourney's it is a lot less about set mining and nitting it up because there are more chips in play. It allows people to make plays and either get caught, coolered or bad beated and still a possibility to recover. Whereas in the normal tourneys (3k or less), if you make one or max two plays where you are beat, you are in push/fold position very quickly!

well said.

i hope we get to actually play poker and not just get lucky

but i doubt it happens.

**aggieshawn** · 09-07-12, 05:43 PM

Good Points Beerdog & BD & Trinity.

**The Giant** · 09-07-12, 06:02 PM

Starting stacks: 1 million chips.

Blind structure: 5/10, going up a level every two hours.

The player with the most stamina, and best bladder control wins.

**k13** · 09-07-12, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by BeerDog99

I find it very ironic that a lot of the people that don't like people playing tighter (e.g. set/nut mining) are also the ones complaining when people gamble it up and win with crap cards.

You can't have it both ways.

Also, in the deepstack tourney's it is a lot less about set mining and nitting it up because there are more chips in play. It allows people to make plays and either get caught, coolered or bad beated and still a possibility to recover. Whereas in the normal tourneys (3k or less), if you make one or max two plays where you are beat, you are in push/fold position very quickly!

Some people complain no matter what.