SBR Poker is Rigged!!!

[iifold]

Well, I don't know if it is or not....,

but if it's like most sites, it will help bad players "stay in the game"..

hopefully it is legit so we can all share Batemans points and buy a couple extra freeplays here and there..

[blackf1re]

but if it's like most sites, it will help bad players "stay in the game"..

I hope you're not being serious and actually believe that.

[iifold]

I hope you're not being serious and actually believe that.

You have sooo much to learn young grasshopper..

[blackf1re]

Haha okay. At least there will be one donk at the tables.

Here's something to play around with for you Ivey:
And I still haven't heard a reasonable explanation why the poker sites would rig the games in the bad players' favour considering they're not exactly the ones who produce lots of rake.

Like it or not 72 has 33% equity against AK. This should give anyone an idea how high variance can be and how meaningless small samples are.

[iifold]

Thanks for the lesson,

So Im guessing you think online casinos are on the up and up as well..

Go look at any 3-6 limit game on pokerstars and tell me how many guys have it up over $400 dollars on a table..

Go play any small buy in tourney on pokerstars and let me know within the first couple hands what the "setup" hands were to get the tourney over quicker..

[hockeyman30304]

i hate online poker....it always seems rigged

[iifold]

96% sure this blackf1re guy would be a "hand trembler" if he played live..

[pavyracer]

Well, I don't know if it is or not....,

but if it's like most sites, it will help bad players "stay in the game"..

hopefully it is legit so we can all share Batemans points and buy a couple extra freeplays here and there..

BatemanPatrickl
Restricted User

Good luck sharing the points of a banned poster.

[blackf1re]

Ofc there are shady sites (Superusers, payout delays etc). But there still hasn't been one single case of sites rigging games yet. And I challenge everyone to show me proof .

Mentioning Stars is just laughable. Do you know how much money they make per day? How much rake their players produce? They're the biggest poker room in the world and the least likely to rig games. Not that anyone else is doing it... They don't care whether you win or you lose btw, they're making money anyway because of the rake everyone's paying. And as I said recreational players don't produce that much rake due to the low stakes they play and the low volume they put in. Why should a poker room have such an interest in making them win?

Your 'arguments' are just the typical bullshit you can read on 2+2 all day. Play 100,000 tourneys and then look at your EV graph and tell me if the games were rigged or if it was just a case of shortterm variance. If you clicked on my link you can see that a 8bb winner (which is very solid) can lose almost 1000bb over 10,000 hands (which is what most 'regulars' at least play in a month).

[B1GER1C828]

Online poker IS NOT rigged, if you think it is your just a complete dumass.

VARIANCE is probably why you think its rigged. When your ak beats 2-7 10 times in a row, you expect to lose a few soon enough. Ever watch poker on tv? Huck seed got running jacks (turn and river) to make a full house to beat a flopped flush. is live poker rigged too?

What about the people who have won big tournaments online multiple times? or made deep runs consistently(bankrollme87, Nipsman are 2 that come to mind)...has PS or FTP developed software to help them out or something?

[iifold]

Let's talk about rake,

In real life, the bad players go broke and cardrooms become "slow"..

Do you think the cardclub owners like these "slow" times?

If the bad players all went broke right away like they should (especially playing 4-5 times as many hands) there would be less games which would mean LESS rake..

Is this really that hard to understand?

The more we as players just pass our chips back and forth, the better off they are because the games stay alive..

[blackf1re]

Again you don't seem to understand how huge the impact of variance really is.

I already mentioned that very good players could be big losers over a certain sample size. Equally donkeys can go on a huge upswing and convince themselves they're world beaters. That's why they always come back. Because they think they're winners. In the end they'll go broke (unless they're smart enough to stop) but that could take a very long time




This is a simulated winning graph for someone who loses 10 bb /100 hands. Do you see how many graphs there are above the EV line? A bad player could be huge winner over 10,000 hands. And you can imagine how long it will take for someone who's most likely one or two-tabling to play 10,000 hands. So these players are not leaving any time soon.


Here's an interesting post which touches on what the sites do to grow. Rigging games is not part of that: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...player-778378/

[iifold]

I could go on and on..

Next time you're in a small buyin tourney, pay attention to the chip stacks..

As the blinds get bigger, it will seem like a miracle that the bigger stack is always getting that slight edge that you would never notice unless you looked for it..

Pokerstars (for the smaller limits) is basically a training site. And if you follow "their" rules they will reward you..

If you take on bigger stacks they will punish your ass..

Playing limit? Don't ever try and get tricky, check the best hand heads up.., more often then not the other guy will get there..

I could right a book on all the little angles there are in the smaller limit games you know nothings think are "random"..

If you had less than the big blind in a tourney and were forced all in.. You used to lose 99.9% of the time..

Word got out about this obviously and they changed it.. You guys really need to start thinking for yourselves..

Now the higher you go, the less they control..(better players)


This will all come out one day when poker is legal in the US and Pokerstars is bought out..

[minet123]

[B1GER1C828]

poor IIfold...just so dumb.

[k13]

I could go on and on..

Next time you're in a small buyin tourney, pay attention to the chip stacks..

As the blinds get bigger, it will seem like a miracle that the bigger stack is always getting that slight edge that you would never notice unless you looked for it..

Pokerstars (for the smaller limits) is basically a training site. And if you follow "their" rules they will reward you..

If you take on bigger stacks they will punish your ass..

Playing limit? Don't ever try and get tricky, check the best hand heads up.., more often then not the other guy will get there..

I could right a book on all the little angles there are in the smaller limit games you know nothings think are "random"..

If you had less than the big blind in a tourney and were forced all in.. You used to lose 99.9% of the time..

Word got out about this obviously and they changed it.. You guys really need to start thinking for yourselves..

Now the higher you go, the less they control..(better players)


This will all come out one day when poker is legal in the US and Pokerstars is bought out..

Its true and proven. Its still skewed in tourneys for big stacks. Thus you'll will see constantly the worst players with the biggest stacks in every tourney. If someone at your table has the most chips, chances are they are the worst player at the table.

Is the SBR poker room open yet?

[pdx107]

if it is i would love to find out where it is

[keyboarding]

I could right a book on all the little angles there are in the smaller limit games you know nothings think are "random"..

Something tells me you won't have much of a career writing anything.

[pavyracer]

Something tells me you won't have much of a career writing anything.

The book will take a month to write and the spell checking will take 3 years.

[thechaoz]

I put myself through college and still to this day crush online cards. Get rakeback for even more money

[SBR_John]

Look at what people say about the casino. I'm sure there will be plenty of "its rigged!" stuff. Everytime someone losses with two pair to a guy who puls an inside straight compliments of the turn and river will be suspect.

And like we did with the sportsbook and racebook, we will come out slowly and try very hard to get better.

[Ryangene]

Look at what people say about the casino. I'm sure there will be plenty of "its rigged!" stuff. Everytime someone losses with two pair to a guy who puls an inside straight compliments of the turn and river will be suspect.

And like we did with the sportsbook and racebook, we will come out slowly and try very hard to get better.

So you are saying the casino is rigged?

[dinaro7]

the poker site does not cheat anyone

[iifold]

SBRJohn.. WE WANT ARE DAMN POKER NOW!!!!

Thanks

[treece]

give SBRjohn a break.

[minet123]

Thanks

How are you and your ghosts planing to scam this

[big joe 1212]

put $10 in a real poker site and STFU !!!!!!!!!!!!

[pavyracer]

It's only for the Pros (cough cough suckers).

[SBR Lou]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/644399-500-sbr-pro-poker-freeroll.html

[frostno98]

Currently playing a $10 tourney at Intertop for 1k. Update you guys if I make it to the finals

[jjgold]

put $10 in a real poker site and STFU !!!!!!!!!!!!

[keyboarding]

Are? Really?

[iifold]

I dont know what your laughin at you bald fukk..

I said Top Ten.. not 11th..

[iifold]

Gonna be more than rain dropping on your head if you dont straighten the ship...

[Z_Wipf]

Are Poker. Nice.