New player where to start?

[alex weber]

I started playing poker now, got a no deposit bonus for Full Tilt on a page online, but do not know where to start
because I can not play short stack strategy "for the buy in is too high for it ......... cash game're cast aside,so in sng
not know if I play tournament or Double up? what is
best for who is starting?

[FazzersGirl]

In my opinion, I would start in the double ups....If you are just starting to play on line, this is a good way to learn computer poker. If you play tight until you have a "playable" hand, then a lot of times you can cash. Unless of course you get the dumb luck which we all know happens from time to time..

Good luck!

[Kindred]

Get an instant bankroll at pokersource.com no deposit, you can short stack there..

[sinmiedo]

just play a lot of freeroll for now till you the feeling of it
i suggest no to play for monwy till you make a final table on a freeroll.
belive it or not is a great training ground till you star getting some skills on the table.
imo

[rabbitonbet]

www.pokerstrategy.com also you can get 50 free capital.

[Czu81]

In my opinion, I would start in the double ups....If you are just starting to play on line, this is a good way to learn computer poker. If you play tight until you have a "playable" hand, then a lot of times you can cash. Unless of course you get the dumb luck which we all know happens from time to time..

Good luck!

agree-a good start for beginers, try various forms of poker (Heads up, MTT, full ring, sng) to see which one u like, more profitable.

[BigOrangeBrother]

www.pokerstrategy.com also you can get 50 free capital.

.....or you can borrow points like rabbitonbet did and not pay them back. What a dishonest stiff!!!

[mrmarket]

You made a mistake getting a free bankroll from FTP. Go sign up for rake back through their only affiliate and hope they contact you about getting it. Anyway my advice:

1)Read Getting Started in Hold'em By Ed Miller
2)Choose either No limit(A) or Limit(B) to learn first
3)Choose NL Cash(A), SNG's (AA)or MTT's (AAA)to specialize in at first or Limit Cash (B)

A) No limit Cash: Buy Harrington on Cash Games Volume 1 & 2. $50 is 20 BI at 2NL you will be sufficiently rolled.

AA)No Limit SNG's: Buy Sit'N'Go Strategy by Collin Moshman or Secrets of Sit'N'Go's by Phi Shaw (both will be better). Pokerstars is better site for low Sit'N'Go's as well.

AAA) No Limit Tournaments: Buy Harrington on Hold'Em Volume 1,2,3. 100 BI is the heuristic. If you choose this route Pokerstars has better low BI tournaments available.

B)Limit Cash: Buy Small Stakes Hold'em By Ed Miller. 300 BB heuristic will be properly rolled at $12 for $0.02/$0.04

STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY
Before you play a single hand. Don't even fool around at Play Money.

4) Buy Pokertracker or Hold'Em Manager
5) Register on 2+2 and choose the specific subforum of the game you chose to post in. Only post in that and beginners.
6) Read all the stickied FAQ's in Beginniners, the sub forum and possibly Internet Gambling as well before you post anything.
6) Play at least 20,000 hands post your stats and ask for analysis/post hands you have trouble with.
7) Play more hands.
8) Achieve breakeven status or a small win rate.
9) Sign up for a training site and get more books to study.

[deuce92]

I started playing poker now, got a no deposit bonus for Full Tilt on a page online, but do not know where to start because I can not play short stack strategy "for the buy in is too high for it ......... cash game're cast aside,so in sng not know if I play tournament or Double up? what is best for who is starting?

To start with I would pick a format such as cash, sngs or tournaments that you enjoy the most and go from there

[FazzersGirl]

just play a lot of freeroll for now till you the feeling of it
i suggest no to play for monwy till you make a final table on a freeroll.
belive it or not is a great training ground till you star getting some skills on the table.
imo

The problem with playing for no money is most people play so loose. You can go all in every hand and then just go and request more play money. I think it's a waste of time.

That's why when I started, I started at low buy in tables until I got the hang of it. They may still play loose cause it isn't a huge amount of money but it's money all the same!

[alex weber]

I started playing poker now, got a no deposit bonus for Full Tilt on a page online, but do not know where to start
because I can not play short stack strategy "for the buy in is too high for it ......... cash game're cast aside,so in sng
not know if I play tournament or Double up? what is
best for who is starting?

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[daneblazer]

well... one day someone will wander upon this thread and find it useful.

[boscokid]

You made a mistake getting a free bankroll from FTP. Go sign up for rake back through their only affiliate and hope they contact you about getting it. Anyway my advice:

1)Read Getting Started in Hold'em By Ed Miller
2)Choose either No limit(A) or Limit(B) to learn first
3)Choose NL Cash(A), SNG's (AA)or MTT's (AAA)to specialize in at first or Limit Cash (B)

A) No limit Cash: Buy Harrington on Cash Games Volume 1 & 2. $50 is 20 BI at 2NL you will be sufficiently rolled.

AA)No Limit SNG's: Buy Sit'N'Go Strategy by Collin Moshman or Secrets of Sit'N'Go's by Phi Shaw (both will be better). Pokerstars is better site for low Sit'N'Go's as well.

AAA) No Limit Tournaments: Buy Harrington on Hold'Em Volume 1,2,3. 100 BI is the heuristic. If you choose this route Pokerstars has better low BI tournaments available.

B)Limit Cash: Buy Small Stakes Hold'em By Ed Miller. 300 BB heuristic will be properly rolled at $12 for $0.02/$0.04

STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY
Before you play a single hand. Don't even fool around at Play Money.

4) Buy Pokertracker or Hold'Em Manager
5) Register on 2+2 and choose the specific subforum of the game you chose to post in. Only post in that and beginners.
6) Read all the stickied FAQ's in Beginniners, the sub forum and possibly Internet Gambling as well before you post anything.
6) Play at least 20,000 hands post your stats and ask for analysis/post hands you have trouble with.
7) Play more hands.
8) Achieve breakeven status or a small win rate.
9) Sign up for a training site and get more books to study.

agree with most of this except:

Don't buy too many books - get a good one and really learn it.
Wait on signing up for a training site

agree on sign up for 2+2 but stick to strategy forums for the type and level you are playing.

[1949]

I completely agree with boscokid get the feel of the game before putting your money out there. One good book for starters is all you need but beware of (paralysis by analysis) basics first and play freerolls till you get comfortable with online games it is different than real live ones.

[Roxxyfish]

wherever you want to start the most important thing is patience so yes doublw up tourneys are a good way

[sinmiedo]

1949 ..no1here...roxy......me..........we all suggest to play frerolls before you ever deposit.
Maybe you will never have to do just like me, i got some frerolls and a gift cert here .
earn 600 points and that will give you 50 gift card to Bodog.

[Daveyboy]

You could always try free online casino games and start from there. It's your call.

[statnerds]

my only concern with books written on subjects such as this:

aren't millions of other people reading them as well?

[sinmiedo]

you are right in the this one every one reads the same books.
i watch the show high stake poker many times and once it was said that Patric Antonius never read a poker book.
in my oppinion he is a hell of a good cash game player, torunaments i do not know.

[1949]

Right again sinmiedo, I watch most poker games when I can, I play online all the time and play in casinos when I can and you don't need to read a book on poker if you have the time and patience to learn without losing a fortune. You need to be able to read people and make hard decisions when you might be beaten. ANTONIUS I think is an excellent player and does well in cash but you need to realise that cash and tourny play is different. I don't see him at a lot of final tables in tourny's but I've seen him win a crap load of cash. Be patient and learn all.

[mrmarket]

my only concern with books written on subjects such as this:

aren't millions of other people reading them as well?

People are stupid/lazy so even if the material is out there it doesn't matter.

[mrmarket]

agree with most of this except:

Don't buy too many books - get a good one and really learn it.
Wait on signing up for a training site

agree on sign up for 2+2 but stick to strategy forums for the type and level you are playing.

I already said to stick to strategy sub forums. And buy as many books as you can. It's already presupposed that you are learning from them otherwise it would be a useless endeavor.

[BGboothA]

I already said to stick to strategy sub forums. And buy as many books as you can. It's already presupposed that you are learning from them otherwise it would be a useless endeavor.

Many people in this world read without actually thinking or learning.

[sinmiedo]

it is so true...........
but here is a though MrMarket...........you suggest a books, well, i read a few, specialy Skalinski, and i relly appreciate the cintific aproach of it, but in the real worl the variance is in the gambling aspect of the game, and time and time again the game has show me that AA are a winning hand 1 out of 3 times that i play them , at best, that indicates that there are 2 more vairiables that makes the game, the gambling aspect ( an you can not control a gambling personality ) and the luck factor.
Indeed i agree that books like the post secundary education are extrimilly important in life however, in the real worl only the risky people makes the cut, you can be the best student, the best worker, but without the guts, you are just that,
Look arround to the entrepronurial world and is not different than a poker table.
best to all
alex