Online Poker Players capable of Cheating with new PokerRNG 6.0 software

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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    Online Poker Players capable of Cheating with new PokerRNG 6.0 software
    Is anyone really by surprised by this announcement though, because I'm not.

    Online Poker Players capable of Cheating with new PokerRNG 6.0 software.

    Released on = August 9, 2007, 11:23 am

    Press Release Author = Peter Drake

    Industry = Software

    Press Release Summary = Poker Players have the ability to see upcoming cards and opponents information

    Press Release Body = New Jersey, United States, August 9, 2007 - PokerRNG.com announced today the new release of their poker software program PokerRNG 6.0, the software that claims it is capable of viewing upcoming community cards as well as opponents card information on a wide variety of Texas Hold Em poker rooms.

    "PokerRNG 6.0 is truly capable of deciphering the online poker room random number generators. It has been found that online poker rooms need to generate card values on a fair and equal level.Can you imagine if while playing Texas Hold Em, the poker site continually deals out the same cards? Poker sites have to make sure all cards look random, whether they actually are is a completely different story. This is where PokerRNG 6.0 comes in and calculates upcoming cards based on this principal.”

    PokerRNG.com has also supplied proof that their software works just as they claim, as seen on YouTube and PokerRNG.com, the video displays PokerRNG 6.0 being used with the popular Poker Stars poker software displaying card values before they are dealt.

    “There’s no doubt that the software works as claimed. After all, the poker room is using a digital deck of cards. In this day and age there’s a will and a way when it comes to electronics especially when money is involved. This has been proven with every aspect of digital devices, online gambling is no exception. For now I’ll just stick to brick and mortar casinos where I can avoid losing to a player who is using PokerRNG 6.0.”

    Lasky Systems, the creator of PokerRNG software, have examined over 10 million hand histories from various poker sites over the years. Using statistics and advanced algorithms they have been able to pin point how to calculate upcoming cards in online poker rooms. PokerRNG 6.0 is over 4 years in the making because they are a very dedicated team. This project has been around for years now and will continue to be supported in the future.

    Recently, online poker players have been polled to show how many players believe there is something fishy with online poker. The results show that over 80% of online players believe that there are some unseen events taking place.

    “There just hasn’t been enough proof up until now that this was an actual possibility. Years ago there was an exploit on a well known poker site that was quickly covered up. Now years later we see this same type of thing happening. Only this time it will be a lot harder to stop players from seeing upcoming cards unless online poker rooms start using real decks of cards shown through a video feed. That is about the only option they have to defeat the PokerRNG 6.0 software. Using computer generated cards is not going to cut it anymore.”

    For more information and to download PokerRNG 6.0 software visit: http://www.pokerrng.com
  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    There's no question poker bots exist, poker sites are aware of this and most of the upper-tier security team deals with this stuff. There are detection methods in place and users of them have been issued lifetime bans. I suspect that program doesn't work entirely as advertised, videos can be post-edited quite easily. The fact remains if you truly had an undetectable flawless RNG predictor, you could literally make millions of dollars for yourself, why share it for $400? Probably because, if it does work, your account will inevitably get banned before you can do much damage.
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    • moses millsap
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-25-05
      • 8289

      #3
      I think I will cash out from Full Tilt, like...TODAY!
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      • Ganchrow
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-28-05
        • 5011

        #4
        Originally posted by bigboydan
        Is anyone really by surprised by this announcement though, because I'm not.
        This is utter nonsense and belies even the most simplistic understanding of how random number generation works. Poker Stars' generation method, which utilizes an Intel true random number generator, is well-known and cryptographically secure. All major online poker sites use very similar methods.

        It seems to me like someone's trying to demonstrate how well PT Barnum's famous maxim works in practice.
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        • rolemand
          SBR MVP
          • 03-24-06
          • 1033

          #5
          And to think I contemplated getting it but it doesn't work on the poker sites I use.
          Last edited by rolemand; 08-12-07, 08:02 PM.
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          • EJandV
            SBR MVP
            • 08-03-07
            • 1491

            #6
            Lmao !
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            • JBC77
              SBR MVP
              • 03-23-07
              • 3816

              #7
              If you think thats bad, check out these two partners run game on some poor saps on PartyPoker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi5zhH1P1m8
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              • mannifresh
                SBR Rookie
                • 08-13-07
                • 3

                #8
                why would poker sites care if you are using pokerrng 6.0 or not. they are still making the same amount of money on rake and such. maybe even more. so why would they care?
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                • JBC77
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-23-07
                  • 3816

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mannifresh
                  why would poker sites care if you are using pokerrng 6.0 or not. they are still making the same amount of money on rake and such. maybe even more. so why would they care?

                  If it was widely known or believed that you could cheat accurately......that could affect the profits big time.

                  It's in a poker operators best interest to make sure it's as fair as can be.

                  Would you want to invest your money in a game that you knew was rigged?
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                  • SBR Lou
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-02-07
                    • 37863

                    #10
                    Guys,

                    That RNG software is a scam. Also sharkscope the users stats in the sample video, he's a lifetime loser over small limits on PokerStars.
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                    • mannifresh
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 08-13-07
                      • 3

                      #11
                      has anybody here even tried pokerrng 6.0?
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                      • mannifresh
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 08-13-07
                        • 3

                        #12
                        also there is no way of finding out if somebody is using the software or not. is there?
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                        • SBR Lou
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-02-07
                          • 37863

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mannifresh
                          also there is no way of finding out if somebody is using the software or not. is there?
                          I did some research on how this program claims to work. I can confidently say I doubt PokerStars will ban you for using it. That's because the software is a scam and will not function as advertised, it is simply not possible. The PokerStars random number generator is not "deterministic" from a programming perspective. Put simply, the next number produced has absolutely no mathematical relationship to the prior number. Before you crown yourself as another sucker who pays $400 for this bogus software, please reread Ganchrows post.
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                          • john10774
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 08-30-07
                            • 2

                            #14
                            Definitely Edited Video

                            I went to the website and watched their sample video and that has to be fake! It would work to well to not get caught.
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                            • rugbybdyb
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-06-07
                              • 997

                              #15
                              this is a joke, I dont think it would ever work
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                              • Al Masters
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-29-06
                                • 6940

                                #16
                                Bonafide nonsense, a half creative way to hustle a few bucks out of those few souls who wanna believe so badly there willing to take a shot.
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                                • pico
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 04-05-07
                                  • 27321

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JBC77
                                  If you think thats bad, check out these two partners run game on some poor saps on PartyPoker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi5zhH1P1m8
                                  This video has been removed by the user.


                                  dang
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                                  • LLXC
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-10-06
                                    • 8972

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by mannifresh
                                    why would poker sites care if you are using pokerrng 6.0 or not. they are still making the same amount of money on rake and such. maybe even more. so why would they care?
                                    Obviously, people will refuse to play on sites if they have doubts about the site being able to prevent such programs from being used.
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                                    • montalat
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 09-28-07
                                      • 2

                                      #19
                                      PokerRng

                                      I ve just buy this product a try it with ;
                                      Party poker , Poker770 ,Doyles room ...
                                      The result is Baaaaaad !!!!!
                                      Don t buy it my friends
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                                      • montalat
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 09-28-07
                                        • 2

                                        #20

                                        If u want some video (the mine) i show u a real work of this bad software
                                        let u mail to
                                        Last edited by bigboydan; 10-09-07, 01:17 AM. Reason: email link removed
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                                        • bbazal
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 01-23-08
                                          • 1

                                          #21
                                          Huge Scam

                                          I bought this software in 10/2007. No cards EVER matched. It's a scam. To top it off, I tried to use the 30 day money back gaurantee...and guess what, no dice. I followed the policy of mailing in the refund request and even used delivery confirmation to prove they rec'd it. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard a word from them. BEFORE I bought the product they were quick to respond to all questions. After purchasing I haven't rec'd a response from the 50 emails I sent. AVOID THIS SCAM!
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                                          • shady610
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-12-06
                                            • 1570

                                            #22
                                            sounds like it would be a scam.
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                                            • bigboydan
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 55420

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bbazal
                                              I bought this software in 10/2007. No cards EVER matched. It's a scam. To top it off, I tried to use the 30 day money back gaurantee...and guess what, no dice. I followed the policy of mailing in the refund request and even used delivery confirmation to prove they rec'd it. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard a word from them. BEFORE I bought the product they were quick to respond to all questions. After purchasing I haven't rec'd a response from the 50 emails I sent. AVOID THIS SCAM!
                                              First off, Welcome to the SBR forum

                                              Thank you for sharing your experiences on this s/w, and I do feel for your position on this matter.
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                                              • Poker_Beast
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-14-06
                                                • 6544

                                                #24
                                                This is no suprise to me. I think there is more cheating than people realize.
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                                                • 20Four7
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 04-08-07
                                                  • 6703

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Poker_Beast
                                                  This is no suprise to me. I think there is more cheating than people realize.
                                                  People cheat while playing euchre on yahoo for fun, why wouldn't they cheat for money in a poker room.
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                                                  • jon13009
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-22-07
                                                    • 1258

                                                    #26
                                                    There are plenty of ways to cheat at online poker besides the capabilites of this type of alleged software.

                                                    Collusion with a group of friends sharing hand info through IMs or by phone and the sites providing access to super accounts (see Absolute Poker) where the player can see other players cards and upcoming cards to be dealt are just the tip of the iceberg.

                                                    If there is a way to cheat at making money at online poker (just as in any gambling activity), someone will find it and try it - on both sides of the spectrum. Since there is no real regulatory agency monitoring the on-line poker sites, all players are at risk of losing their money at any time.

                                                    However, since the US govt is unwilling (or too stupid) to licence, regulate, and tax on-line poker, there is little to fight fraud and scams related to on-line poker.

                                                    Thus, IMO those who wish to participate in money on-line poker games do so at a high risk because on-line poker is the only means to simulate the thrill of live poker for those too far away from the casinos or card rooms.
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                                                    • Data
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-27-07
                                                      • 2236

                                                      #27
                                                      Somehow, I empathize the idea... Now, what I want to see is a website running a $1,000,000 guaranteed $10 post up "My bad beat" contest with minimum 20-page entries. This should keep them busy... And then some contest for power posters too...
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                                                      • Always_Over
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 11-22-07
                                                        • 167

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by mannifresh
                                                        why would poker sites care if you are using pokerrng 6.0 or not. they are still making the same amount of money on rake and such. maybe even more. so why would they care?
                                                        coz if your using against the computer player you take all there money

                                                        i read somewhere
                                                        stay away from online casinos

                                                        i think i had to learn the hard way

                                                        maybe some small time pvp poker on blowdog
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                                                        • accuscoresucks
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-03-07
                                                          • 7160

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by crazyl
                                                          Guys,

                                                          That RNG software is a scam. Also sharkscope the users stats in the sample video, he's a lifetime loser over small limits on PokerStars.


                                                          agree dont FALL for it guys i use to play pro before i found sports betting.its simple the only way a person can see your cards is if they had a bug on your computer their is no other way.lets not even talk about the costs it would cost that person cheating to set a situation like that up.
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                                                          • jimbohanna
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 02-17-08
                                                            • 1

                                                            #30
                                                            Can someone post an ID

                                                            All this discussion about PokerRNG 6 can someone post a AccessID and Pssword so others can determine if it is a scam without spending 500 bucks
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                                                            • Poker_Beast
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-14-06
                                                              • 6544

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by 20Four7
                                                              People cheat while playing euchre on yahoo for fun, why wouldn't they cheat for money in a poker room.
                                                              Exactly!
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                                                              • B1GER1C828
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-31-07
                                                                • 10244

                                                                #32


                                                                good enuff for me
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                                                                • SBR Lou
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-02-07
                                                                  • 37863

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jimbohanna
                                                                  All this discussion about PokerRNG 6 can someone post a AccessID and Pssword so others can determine if it is a scam without spending 500 bucks
                                                                  Think about it. If you had a program that could literally hack into the PokerStars random number generator, a technology and security setup which they've spent a lot of money on, and you could do so literally undetected by all of their expert humans and security in place, would you sell it for $500? Would you tell a soul about it? You could make millions yourself... It's a total bogus scam, and PokerStars employs a lot of hackers and computer experts much smarter than the boneheads peddling this junk.
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                                                                  • peroperic
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 02-19-10
                                                                    • 1

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by mannifresh
                                                                    also there is no way of finding out if somebody is using the software or not. is there?
                                                                    dindt try jet,is very hard to fined. i fined 1 version.

                                                                    you make download frome here



                                                                    if you have lucky please dont forgat me
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                                                                    • icancount2one
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-05-10
                                                                      • 1507

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Full Tilt actually randomizes their cards at the moment of the deal. This entire notion is hilarious.
                                                                      Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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