Waste of time.
Just more rainbow hands.
And all ins.
Just more rainbow hands.
And all ins.
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Which one, short deck?Comment -
What's with the 6 seats per table???
Will this be the new format for Lightning Poker?
Seems like it will cause
more rainbows
More all ins.Comment -
Doesn't start to the 29th?Comment -
6 max leads to more aggressive. Cannot play typical tight abc poker. Position and aggression will lead you to wins. Yeah you’ll see light hands all in but stealing blinds will be very valuable.
And yes, the 6 max is the new format thanks to the SBR poker pros who all asked for it. Personally it only helps the previous winners, not so much the average joes.Comment -
Granted it's early to pass judgement, but my feeling is that I will like this format better. Playing six handed obviously means you play a higher % and variety of hands which makes it more interesting. And generally it will be more aggressive, particularly with them paying Top 6 instead of Top 8 (though same total payout) which I also like since more incentive to try to build a big stack early on, meaning that when you fail, you will on average be out faster than in the other format (saving time - as I did tonight!).
Anyway, time will tell. But I am curious TheMoneyShot - if it was up to you, what format would you choose? Drew said he was open to suggestions so if you think something will be much better, by all means speak up! That said, don't suggest something which involves much higher payouts or anything. As much as we might all hope for that, that isn't going to happen I'm pretty sure. But if you have a suggestion for a better format which pays out the same total per tourney, please let us know what it is!Comment -
When was the last time you made a thread with a BET in the title?Comment -
I do agreeComment -
Is it 1000 or 1500 chips? If 1500, did it take less time to complete a tournament than with 9 seats?Comment -
I honestly sat down last night thinking that I just had an odd table... meaning less players. Didn't even know there was a new structure with 6 seats per each table.
First and foremost... I'm not a good poker player... I just work with what I know it regarding certain players at a table. If people say I shove a lot... I probably do. But, no one has ever taught me percentages with different mid or low cards etc. And what to do in certain situations.
When you factor in SBR's "random" "rainbow" style outcomes.... and this 6 seated format.... you'd only imagine most players wouldn't shove... and they would play out their hands like typical.... playing "in-person" style poker. I think SBR was hoping they'd get that style of play.... but if more people are shoving Ace high... (more than me).... and they understand poker knowledge more than myself... what's going to happen? You aren't going to get the "play through" style that probably SBR was hoping for?
Possibly last night (since it wasn't for standings) people were playing more loose than normal? But, I just have a feeling... when you factor in the 6 seats... with the typical SBR poker software... I just don't believe there's going to be that "excitement" that we all want and are hoping for.
Then you factor in the small amount of points now when placing??? It's just not worth your time. Unless... you really LOVE the game of poker.... which... I'm not in love with it. I do it to just take a break from things.... life.... and relax. But lol when you see some of the sh#$ that goes down... you're like... why the fukk am I here? Playing this? The outcome on most hands.... it's not even logical... I mean... it's just crazy.
I don't know what SBR's goal is? Do they want to persuade the "not so interested" player into playing??? Or are they just focused on the regulars? Do they want SBR poker to expand and become more popular??? I don't know what their business focus is?
But if they stick with the format..... like how it was last night. It's going to be a disaster. I can see it coming.Comment -
I guess nothing will please everyone but I'm surprised we get sweeping changes all of a sudden after years of suggestions and constructive criticism from posters all but ignored. At least put things to a vote or something beforehand.Comment -
And I apologize SBR... for using the word sucks. I was extremely disappointed last night. Possibly the title should read... "SBR POKER = Worse Than Before"?
But, that's just my opinion. Let the good regular players voice their opinions.... they'll let you know how they feel.Comment -
Yes, what is key here is what are SBR's goals no doubt. As this is their site, obviously those have to be their foremost concern, and given we don't know exactly what they are, we can only hope that they feel these changes are being made in the hope of better achieving those goals.
As for this being a disaster, you might be correct. That said, it's only been one day of it, I do think everyone should give this format a fair chance before immediately proclaiming an opinion (whether good or bad). And remember, this, at the moment, only seems to be for a month, if it turns out very badly, hopefully they will listen to the many who will presumably say that and change the format back.
Yeah, I have to say I was surprised by how quickly that came about. Someone suggests it, bam they do it (I guess I should be proud since one of my suggestions, paying Top 6 rather than Top 8, was one they implemented!). In one sense that's good since they are taking our suggestions seriously after years of ignoring them as you said. That said, I can understand the concern that you might have in how quickly they just jumped into those changes without seemingly thinking about them carefully. Again, shall see how this format goes over the next month.Comment -
To my knowledge, the payouts for top 6 didn't increase, so not keen on that.Comment -
The payouts did increase, second used to be 175, now is 200. The total payout for the tourney is 800 - just like old format. So that's fine imo.
As I said, it's more like regular poker tourneys in terms of % of participants who cash. And who really wanted to win 20 or 25 points for 7th or 8th anyway - pain to rollover imo.
Now minimum is 40 which I like better personally. More substantial rollovers in general without super small ones which are annoying. Whenever I had a 20 rollover, pretty much went to the 0.5/1 table and just shoved preflop quickly, trying to lose it or double it quickly, not real ring game play which they are obviously trying to encourage.Comment -
No apology necessary, you only stated the truth. With only 6 players on the table, there's less pricks for Waves to slowroll. Throwing me off my game. New format is very bad, period.
Agree with Jake...changes should be voted on, instead of just listening to a couple knucklehead suggestions. The bad suggestions were implemented, while the good suggestions were simply ignored. Majority vote should rule on changes, so everyone's opinion is factored in.Comment -
wow sucksComment -
nice format
gg katstaleComment -
How long are the tourneys taking now?Comment -
Not really a fan
Used to be able to watch a game while playing a hand every now and then can't do that nowComment -
I love the new format. Finally something that I enjoy. It's here to stay.Comment -
What are 'rainbow hands'?Comment -
i suck at poker. have enough problems cashing at 10 and even worse at 8. Even though less time i'm not sure i'm willing to waste time on going all in on kk and having someone going all in on 3-5 unsuited and having them catch a st8Comment -
I think I'm a big fan of this development.
I'm also not sure I understand why people complain about others going all in with 35 and 72. They are the same people who bet Detroit Pistons +10.5 at post in game 4 and then watch that horrifying 4th quarter. The idea is getting your money in well. Once you've done that, you will win more often than you lose. Maybe 10-15% more often. And when you don't win, be a big boy and understand Vegas wasn't built out of thin air. You had the best of it, thank your lucky stars for the 'public' who move the lines so you can get the best number, and the 35/72 all in pushers who give you the ultimate chance to double up and win the tournament.Comment -
really like how these end in about an hourComment -
I didn't think it was possible to cause even less "poker" to be played on this site than before, but the measly 1000 starting chip stack has accomplished this feat, further degrading the caliber of "poker" on Shithole Be Rigged poker..
I've noticed many players feeling the need to shove every hand from the five minute mark in the trny due to the pathetic size of our starting stack, and of course sbr doing what it does best by affording the countless underdog bad beats over and over and over....
new low point for sure..........Comment -
I don't agree with the donkster very often, but spot on! Fuk this format! 1000 chips at a 6 player table sucks donkey balls! Might as well call it a dumb fuk turbo for shove and pray losers. You could've at least stuck with the 1500 starting stack. Waste of fuk'in time, assholes bitch'in about how long the regular format took, like they've got some fuk'in place special to be!
Nice try SBR, but epic fail! 1000 chip starting stack, only pay'in out top 6, you've killed the action at the cash tables too. Rollover for 6 people. Fuk'in deadville.
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Ya I've qualified for every poker series I've participated in. I was stoked to get back at it after the lay off.I played once and I'm just not into it. I know if you don't kill it week one it's pretty much over. You can see a lot of big names missing from the top 18. The series is too short. It'll be over soon and hopefully SBR hears playersComment -
IMO this is by far the best structured poker series SBR has ever run. The overall series as well as the tournaments themselves are short enough that forum members can participate without it being a colossal time sink. By going 6 max. we see more hands/hour, and can get involved with a greater % of the hands we are dealt. If people want to play a type of poker that demands more skill, there are plenty of online poker sites and B&M casinos that would be happy to let you play for actual cash. Since we're only playing for points a quick, fun series like this one is imo the way to go.
Great job SBR!
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