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  • Triple_D_Bet
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    • 12-12-11
    • 7626

    #1
    World Cup Poker Team Betting
    Odds:

    Team To Win To Lose Last Not Last
    USA +180 -288 +270 -310
    Canada +220 -324 +245 -285
    World +290 -390 +205 -245
    Confeds +230 -329 +230 -275
    Max to win on dog: 500
    Max wager on favorite: 1000

    Action closes at 11:59 AM Eastern Monday.

    As always, point stiffs are not allowed to wager. Post up for confirmation (except try, yis, downsouth or others as confirmed).
    Last edited by Triple_D_Bet; 07-28-14, 01:18 AM. Reason: edit: updated odds
  • ArunSh
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    • 09-24-07
    • 6801

    #2
    I'll take 1000 to win 347 on USA to lose (hedging against us, little consolation prize to me if we don't win!)
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    • Triple_D_Bet
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      • 12-12-11
      • 7626

      #3
      Originally posted by ArunSh
      I'll take 1000 to win 347 on USA to lose (hedging against us, little consolation prize to me if we don't win!)
      Confirmed, obviously not wishing you good luck
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      • GUMMO77
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        • 08-23-10
        • 9294

        #4
        800 points on World -180 Not to Finish Last
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        • ArunSh
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          • 09-24-07
          • 6801

          #5
          Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
          Confirmed, obviously not wishing you good luck
          Yes this is one bet I definitely want to lose myself! GL to our team for sure.
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          • bobbywaves
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-06-08
            • 13280

            #6
            Max win 1,000, or max risk 1,000 on favorite?
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            • bobbywaves
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-06-08
              • 13280

              #7
              Risk 1,000, USA not last -410
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              • Triple_D_Bet
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                • 12-12-11
                • 7626

                #8
                Originally posted by GUMMO77
                800 points on World -180 Not to Finish Last
                Confirmed...Gummo sharp, made me look and realize I'd copied the wrong column for spreadsheet
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                • Triple_D_Bet
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                  • 12-12-11
                  • 7626

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                  Max win 1,000, or max risk 1,000 on favorite?
                  Max risk 1000 on favorite.

                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                  Risk 1,000, USA not last -410
                  Confirmed, got it in as I was editing updated odds
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                  • bobbywaves
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-06-08
                    • 13280

                    #10
                    USA not last odds changed to -310?
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                    • Triple_D_Bet
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                      • 12-12-11
                      • 7626

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bobbywaves
                      USA not last odds changed to -310?
                      Yup...will give it to you at updated price of -310, so 1000 to win 323
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                      • GUMMO77
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-23-10
                        • 9294

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                        Confirmed...Gummo sharp, made me look and realize I'd copied the wrong column for spreadsheet

                        You want to change it? Meet in the middle?

                        No hard feelings.
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                        • Triple_D_Bet
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                          • 12-12-11
                          • 7626

                          #13
                          Originally posted by GUMMO77
                          You want to change it? Meet in the middle?

                          No hard feelings.
                          Nah, that "bad line" shit has always just seemed like an excuse for books to be lazy, won't get it from me...bet's good
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                          • vladfan
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-25-09
                            • 1249

                            #14
                            Confeds to lose -329 Risk 1000 win 304
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                            • BeerDog99
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-22-10
                              • 4894

                              #15
                              500 for Canada to win +220 odds.
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                              • BiTeMe UsAdOj
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-18-11
                                • 7537

                                #16
                                Volatile format but FUK IT... gonna put my pts where my heart is.

                                Max on TEAM USA to TO WIN, baby!


                                Wishing all my teammates GOOD LUCK & 2pts a pop... even YOU, bobby!

                                Let's get er done
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                                • Auto Donk
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-03-13
                                  • 43558

                                  #17
                                  Insurance/consolation prize bet: 2000 on confeds to lose (at -329)
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                                  • Auto Donk
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-03-13
                                    • 43558

                                    #18
                                    another insurance, consolation bet...... 1000 on USA to win at +180.... good luck, dickweeds; take it down and I get paid......
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                                    • yisman
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-01-08
                                      • 75682

                                      #19
                                      USA not last -310
                                      Canada not last -285
                                      Confeds not last -275

                                      I'll take the max on all of them

                                      Can I do to win 1000 each?
                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                      [/quote]

                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                      • Triple_D_Bet
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-12-11
                                        • 7626

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by yisman
                                        USA not last -310
                                        Canada not last -285
                                        Confeds not last -275

                                        I'll take the max on all of them

                                        Can I do to win 1000 each?
                                        Sure, risking 8700 total, sent 300 back.

                                        For everyone else, so far all bets over limits are confirmed, let's have some fun
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                                        • bobbywaves
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-06-08
                                          • 13280

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                          Yup...will give it to you at updated price of -310, so 1000 to win 323
                                          Ok thanks...was wondering why odds went down instead of up after my bet.
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                                          • Triple_D_Bet
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-12-11
                                            • 7626

                                            #22
                                            Paid USA not last bets, as it's mathematically impossible for USA to get last at this point.

                                            Good luck fellas, and let's see some teams tie for last place...it's the only way I come out ahead in this betting
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                                            • yisman
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-01-08
                                              • 75682

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                              Paid USA not last bets, as it's mathematically impossible for USA to get last at this point.

                                              Good luck fellas, and let's see some teams tie for last place...it's the only way I come out ahead in this betting
                                              not sure how it works anyway

                                              if two tied for last, wouldn't it be considered half last/half not-last?

                                              otherwise if 3 tied for last place and people bet on all 3 to finish last, you'd have to pay out on all 3?

                                              the books have rules for this for golf, where if two tie for 10th, it's like half the wager finished 10th and half finished 11th
                                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                              [/quote]

                                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                              • ArunSh
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-24-07
                                                • 6801

                                                #24
                                                One of the few bets I was very glad to lose, thanks Triple, USA baby!!!!!!!!!
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                                                • Triple_D_Bet
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-12-11
                                                  • 7626

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by yisman
                                                  not sure how it works anyway

                                                  if two tied for last, wouldn't it be considered half last/half not-last?

                                                  otherwise if 3 tied for last place and people bet on all 3 to finish last, you'd have to pay out on all 3?

                                                  the books have rules for this for golf, where if two tie for 10th, it's like half the wager finished 10th and half finished 11th
                                                  I had assumed a tie for last is last, whether bet was on last or not last. If there's an established practice though, probably better to go with that. Gee thanks yis, now I have even less hope
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                                                  • Auto Donk
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-03-13
                                                    • 43558

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                                    I had assumed a tie for last is last, whether bet was on last or not last. If there's an established practice though, probably better to go with that. Gee thanks yis, now I have even less hope
                                                    did sbr state any tiebreakers for positions, or are they choppin? if there's a tiebreaker by sbr, I think it governs. If not i'd interpret as you see fit, tripe... .didn't u say something about your word being final say.... if they bet "nonlast" and their team finished last and there's no tiebraker, both non-last bets are losers, the way I see it.
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                                                    • yisman
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                      • 75682

                                                      #27


                                                      In a "dead heat", two or more competitors are joint winners in a race or contest. For wagering purposes, the wagered amount on a selection is divided by the number of competitors involved in the dead heat (divided stake) and multiplied by the number of paying positions in question. The divided stake gets paid the full odds of the original selection. The remainder of the stake is a loser.

                                                      Straight Bet selected on Ogivly TOP 10 +350, for $100.
                                                      Scenario #1: Two golfers – including Ogivly – tie for 10th place.
                                                      The risk amount ($100) is divided by 2 as there are only 2 golfers sharing one same paying position (10th place). In this case, half of the stake ($50) gets paid full odds, and the other half ($50 as well) is lost. $50 on Ogivly +350 wins $175, for a total credit of $225.
                                                      A bet on any other golfer for TOP 10 that is not tied in 10th place, but yet a winner, will pay full odds for the whole amount wagered.
                                                      Scenario #2: Five golfers – including Ogivly – tie for 10th place.
                                                      The risk amount ($100) is divided by the number of competitors involved in the "dead heat" (5 golfers) = $20 (divided stake) and multiplied by the number of paying positions (there is only one paying position as it is the last place in which 5 golfers are tied). The remainder $80 of the risk amount are lost.
                                                      The divided stake gets paid full odds of the wager as if originally the bet was only for $20. $20 on Ogivly +350 pays $70 to win, for a total credit of $90.
                                                      A bet on any other golfer for TOP 10 that is not tied in 10th place, but yet a winner, will pay full odds for the whole amount wagered.
                                                      Scenario #3: Five golfers – including Ogivly – tie for 8th place.
                                                      The risk amount ($100) is divided by the number of competitors involved in the "dead heat" (5 golfers) = $20 (divided stake) and multiplied by the number of paying positions (3: 8th, 9th & 10th) = $60. The wager amount to be paid at full odds is $60. The remainder $40 of the risk amount are lost.
                                                      $60 on Ogivly + 350 pays $210 to win, for a total credit of $270.
                                                      A bet on any other golfer for TOP 10 that is not tied in 8th place, but yet a winner, will pay full odds for the whole amount wagered.
                                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                      [/quote]

                                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                      • Triple_D_Bet
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-12-11
                                                        • 7626

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                        did sbr state any tiebreakers for positions, or are they choppin? if there's a tiebreaker by sbr, I think it governs. If not i'd interpret as you see fit, tripe... .didn't u say something about your word being final say.... if they bet "nonlast" and their team finished last and there's no tiebraker, both non-last bets are losers, the way I see it.
                                                        My word is final here as with any contest or betting I run. I had assumed tied for last was still last at full odds either way, but that's because I didn't know there was a precedent for similar situations. Now that I know, I think it's only fair to do it the way it's commonly done, even if it costs me a couple pizzas
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                                                        • yisman
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-01-08
                                                          • 75682

                                                          #29
                                                          books have to do it this way because it's not uncommon to have 5+ guys tied for 10th

                                                          if they paid them all at full odds for the top 10 bet

                                                          if you think about it, it's logical. If two tie for 3rd/4th and you have wagers on positions, you can't have no third place or no 4th place. So it's split as if they finished half 3rd and half 4th.
                                                          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                          [/quote]

                                                          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                          • Triple_D_Bet
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-12-11
                                                            • 7626

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by yisman
                                                            books have to do it this way because it's not uncommon to have 5+ guys tied for 10th

                                                            if they paid them all at full odds for the top 10 bet

                                                            if you think about it, it's logical. If two tie for 3rd/4th and you have wagers on positions, you can't have no third place or no 4th place. So it's split as if they finished half 3rd and half 4th.
                                                            Yup, makes a lot of sense to me
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                                                            • Triple_D_Bet
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 12-12-11
                                                              • 7626

                                                              #31
                                                              All USA win and others lose bets paid since USA has it in the bag. Only a couple of ""XXX Team Last" bets to grade.

                                                              Poker forum too sharp
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                                                              • GUMMO77
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-23-10
                                                                • 9294

                                                                #32
                                                                Are these your numbers?

                                                                USA- 46
                                                                Canada- 31
                                                                World-28
                                                                Confederates-27
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                                                                • BiTeMe UsAdOj
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-18-11
                                                                  • 7537

                                                                  #33
                                                                  TY Tripster!



                                                                  p.s. -- ATTENTION: DONKER -- I'm sending that hundo for our bet today in your above post ^^
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                                                                  • Triple_D_Bet
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 12-12-11
                                                                    • 7626

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by GUMMO77
                                                                    Are these your numbers?

                                                                    USA- 46
                                                                    Canada- 31
                                                                    World-28
                                                                    Confederates-27
                                                                    Yup, thats what I've got so far
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                                                                    • Triple_D_Bet
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                                                                      • 12-12-11
                                                                      • 7626

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BiTeMe UsAdOj
                                                                      TY Tripster!



                                                                      p.s. -- ATTENTION: DONKER -- I'm sending that hundo for our bet today in your above post ^^
                                                                      No problem...next time I'm gonna have to be more strict about enforcing betting limits, you guys too good
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