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  • Jimmy Proffett
    SBR MVP
    • 10-20-09
    • 2729

    #1
    Want to try an experiment
    I'm starting to get the SBR treatment again, cooler after cooler. What I want to do is the following:

    1) One person sits with me at a 1-2 table

    2) We limp into every pot and check all the way down

    3) Find out who wins the hand. I'll keep track of my hands won vs hands lost


    I would like to do this for 100 hands. I realize this may take some time but I'm willing to do this: If you come out on top, you keep the profit. If I come out ahead, I'll pay you back whatever you lose.
  • Jimmy Proffett
    SBR MVP
    • 10-20-09
    • 2729

    #2
    It doesn't have to be a 1-2 table, but that's the max I want to sit at. .25-.50 or .50-1 will also work
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    • IMightBluff
      SBR Sharp
      • 12-19-12
      • 452

      #3
      Originally posted by Jimmy Proffett
      I'm starting to get the SBR treatment again, cooler after cooler. What I want to do is the following:

      1) One person sits with me at a 1-2 table

      2) We limp into every pot and check all the way down

      3) Find out who wins the hand. I'll keep track of my hands won vs hands lost


      I would like to do this for 100 hands. I realize this may take some time but I'm willing to do this: If you come out on top, you keep the profit. If I come out ahead, I'll pay you back whatever you lose.
      Originally posted by Jimmy Proffett
      It doesn't have to be a 1-2 table, but that's the max I want to sit at. .25-.50 or .50-1 will also work
      This has got to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen in my life. And I have seen 2 paraplegics trying to have sex...
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      • 4uk4life
        SBR MVP
        • 12-09-10
        • 3302

        #4
        Originally posted by IMightBluff
        This has got to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen in my life. And I have seen 2 paraplegics trying to have sex...

        You love everybody don't you
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        • bobbywaves
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-06-08
          • 13280

          #5
          One has to question your motives for spying on 2 paraplegics.
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          • 4uk4life
            SBR MVP
            • 12-09-10
            • 3302

            #6
            Originally posted by Jimmy Proffett
            I'm starting to get the SBR treatment again, cooler after cooler. What I want to do is the following:

            1) One person sits with me at a 1-2 table

            2) We limp into every pot and check all the way down

            3) Find out who wins the hand. I'll keep track of my hands won vs hands lost


            I would like to do this for 100 hands. I realize this may take some time but I'm willing to do this: If you come out on top, you keep the profit. If I come out ahead, I'll pay you back whatever you lose.
            That's usually how I play anyway Jimmy lol, being the wuss that I am. If I wasn't in the 7pm..
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            • IMightBluff
              SBR Sharp
              • 12-19-12
              • 452

              #7
              Originally posted by bobbywaves
              One has to question your motives for spying on 2 paraplegics.
              Who said i was spying?
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              • Jimmy Proffett
                SBR MVP
                • 10-20-09
                • 2729

                #8
                Okay, I'll up the ante.

                I'll double whatever profit you make from the 100 hands, and if you end up down I'll match whatever amount you're down. So say you end down 15 points; I'll send you 30.
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                • 4uk4life
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-09-10
                  • 3302

                  #9
                  Something like that wouldn't be considered collusion would it
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                  • andyjc712
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 11-19-10
                    • 298

                    #10
                    Originally posted by IMightBluff
                    This has got to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen in my life. And I have seen 2 paraplegics trying to have sex...
                    Actually your thread dedicating 10 plus pages to your grind to win sbr points is the most retarded thing i have seen. You are one total assclown sir
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                    • Jimmy Proffett
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-20-09
                      • 2729

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 4uk4life
                      Something like that wouldn't be considered collusion would it
                      At first I wouldn't think so. But I forgot about rollovers; if one of us were using rollover points I don't think SBR would like it. And I don't know if they can differentiate between if people are using rollover points or not. So I don't know if this is gonna fly.
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                      • Triple_D_Bet
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-12-11
                        • 7626

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jimmy Proffett
                        At first I wouldn't think so. But I forgot about rollovers; if one of us were using rollover points I don't think SBR would like it. And I don't know if they can differentiate between if people are using rollover points or not. So I don't know if this is gonna fly.
                        OK, I'll bite....what would be the point of all this again?
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                        • Jimmy Proffett
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-20-09
                          • 2729

                          #13
                          My assumption is that if 100 hands between 2 opponents are played out to the river, the wins vs losses should fall near a 50/50 split. Of course more hands would result in closer to 50/50, but I didn't want to take all day with it. I feel that at this current time, the cards are against me, and my opponent will always have the best hand at the river. I acknowledge that it's worked the other way too, with me always a pip over my opponent's hand.

                          I honestly don't know how much the losses would have to surpass the wins in order to prove anything. I mean if I only win 5 out of 100 that would prove my point. But what if I went 25-75? or 30-70? I don't know where you differentiate between variance and 'riggedness'

                          But I don't think the experiment can happen due to rollovers factoring in. I'll just suck it up and lose to inside straights for the next 2 weeks.
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                          • troidatoi12
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 01-04-13
                            • 67

                            #14
                            dont do it... You dont want to pry too deep
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                            • Triple_D_Bet
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-12-11
                              • 7626

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jimmy Proffett
                              My assumption is that if 100 hands between 2 opponents are played out to the river, the wins vs losses should fall near a 50/50 split. Of course more hands would result in closer to 50/50, but I didn't want to take all day with it. I feel that at this current time, the cards are against me, and my opponent will always have the best hand at the river. I acknowledge that it's worked the other way too, with me always a pip over my opponent's hand.

                              I honestly don't know how much the losses would have to surpass the wins in order to prove anything. I mean if I only win 5 out of 100 that would prove my point. But what if I went 25-75? or 30-70? I don't know where you differentiate between variance and 'riggedness'

                              But I don't think the experiment can happen due to rollovers factoring in. I'll just suck it up and lose to inside straights for the next 2 weeks.
                              There's plenty of info out there for the kind of distributions you'd expect to see...but if you don't know where to draw the line for rigged/not rigged, the results wouldn't mean anything. Not to mention 100 hands is a insignificant sample.
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                              • Scrappy Do
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 09-11-11
                                • 280

                                #16
                                Originally posted by IMightBluff
                                This has got to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen in my life. And I have seen 2 paraplegics trying to have sex...
                                I have a problem with this statement son... you have disgraced many a damn fine people on this forum. You need to die. aka. go away. I have many a friends in the military, and I would dare you in the real world (yea I know it is only a belief in your mere mind) to make a statement as stupid as this in the real world. You would get stomped in the dirt like a fat ass tick off a hound. (I would swing first)
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                                • troidatoi12
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 01-04-13
                                  • 67

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Scrappy Do
                                  I have a problem with this statement son... you have disgraced many a damn fine people on this forum. You need to die. aka. go away. I have many a friends in the military, and I would dare you in the real world (yea I know it is only a belief in your mere mind) to make a statement as stupid as this in the real world. You would get stomped in the dirt like a fat ass tick off a hound. (I would swing first)
                                  I bench 450lb, i doubt i would get stomped in the dirt like a penetrate renewing
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                                  • ballahollic2
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-30-10
                                    • 986

                                    #18
                                    This is the most flawed experiment for so many reasons.
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                                    • Scrappy Do
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 09-11-11
                                      • 280

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Jimmy Proffett
                                      My assumption is that if 100 hands between 2 opponents are played out to the river, the wins vs losses should fall near a 50/50 split. Of course more hands would result in closer to 50/50, but I didn't want to take all day with it. I feel that at this current time, the cards are against me, and my opponent will always have the best hand at the river. I acknowledge that it's worked the other way too, with me always a pip over my opponent's hand.

                                      I honestly don't know how much the losses would have to surpass the wins in order to prove anything. I mean if I only win 5 out of 100 that would prove my point. But what if I went 25-75? or 30-70? I don't know where you differentiate between variance and 'riggedness'

                                      But I don't think the experiment can happen due to rollovers factoring in. I'll just suck it up and lose to inside straights for the next 2 weeks.
                                      Sorry Jimmy.... Never meant to derail your thread. Derail joined it earlier Back on topic... what would a mere 100 sample hand prove as it is a very very low sample size... continue please.. and sorry again.
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                                      • daneblazer
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 09-14-08
                                        • 27861

                                        #20
                                        Download poker stove or some variance generator and sim to your hearts content for a fraction of the time.
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                                        • Sacrelicious
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-29-12
                                          • 5984

                                          #21
                                          Yeah pokerstove is your best bet here, by far.
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                                          • BigDeem5
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-26-11
                                            • 17191

                                            #22
                                            I'm at a table pal.
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