how do you play this

**Optional** · 12-11-12, 03:49 PM

3x or 4x for me.

**wtt0315** · 12-11-12, 03:54 PM

I should of..
I pushed all in to steal his blind. He called with pocket aces and i was out 23.. 4 and half hours of playing for nothing

Originally posted by Optional

3x or 4x for me.

**Optional** · 12-11-12, 04:02 PM

Ouch.

Almost said I'd be ready to ditch those boys if he came back at me in that spot.

Did he think about the call? Even with bullets in that spot he sounds like he might have considered folding.

**wtt0315** · 12-11-12, 04:03 PM

Yeah he thought about it for a while. He said I know what you have. I really don't want to call but I think I have too

**Optional** · 12-11-12, 04:10 PM

If it was SBR you would have flopped quads on him

**zwoeins** · 12-11-12, 04:13 PM

**PaperTrail07** · 12-11-12, 04:44 PM

your play was not horrible....he calls just the same with QQ or JJ i bet....still you coulda just doubled it acting small and seen how he reacted....easier said looking back....thats simply unlucky

**PaperTrail07** · 12-11-12, 04:46 PM

hand probably woulda got it all in reguardless...sometimes...both people are scared to bet the other guy out and it gets to the riv and stays small but not often....gotta really know someone for that to happen or have huge huge hands

**PaperTrail07** · 12-11-12, 04:47 PM

painful tho.....try going out 5th in a tourney of 2500 after playing 10+ hours and getting nothing.....3K to top 4

**PaperTrail07** · 12-11-12, 04:49 PM

and losing like this.......check check small, big......3-4-5.rainbow...i have 6-7...i go all in....other big stack calls.assumed he had straight or trips shows....5-8......lays 6turn-7riv....to make my hand useless and him taking it with a straight to the 8....imagine that shit...

**daneblazer** · 12-11-12, 05:01 PM

Don't shove. This guy is openly telling you how loss averse he is. If he's that tight and needs to make the money chances are he's ONLY going to be calling a shove with AA and nothing else. A shove is folding out any lesser hands that would give you action so you're killing the value of Kings. Raise about 3x-4x the BB. This scenario is tough, but at least you'd have a chance to get away from the hand if he plays back at you.

**tatddy** · 12-11-12, 05:18 PM

Paralysis by analysis. Not much you're going to do to get away in that spot unless an A flops regardless of what you do preflop. Just unlucky, sprint over to the cash tables.

**thetrinity** · 12-11-12, 05:21 PM

Um how many chips do we have what r the blinds.

Ive seen 60 dollar events where there is only one play here. If you have 10 big blinds different story then if you have 50.

Guy needs to find a new hobby if he really is that broke.

**wtt0315** · 12-11-12, 06:13 PM

I had 20 big blinds left I think. Bad thing was 2-3 people has less then 4 big blinds. The flop cam 2 6 10. So I think we might f both went in any but this was also the type of guy that probably would of checked it down with me because we had been talking and friendly to each other all night. He needed up winning but they chopped last 4 spots. I actually went to play cash games while the tournament was going on and he actually sent over a sandwich and a drink for me that he paid for which was a nice gesture

**BiTeMe UsAdOj** · 12-12-12, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by daneblazer

Don't shove. This guy is openly telling you how loss averse he is. If he's that tight and needs to make the money chances are he's ONLY going to be calling a shove with AA and nothing else. A shove is folding out any lesser hands that would give you action so you're killing the value of Kings. Raise about 3x-4x the BB. This scenario is tough, but at least you'd have a chance to get away from the hand if he plays back at you.

This analysis by dane is dead solid perfect.

**thetrinity** · 12-12-12, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by wtt0315

I had 20 big blinds left I think. Bad thing was 2-3 people has less then 4 big blinds. The flop cam 2 6 10. So I think we might f both went in any but this was also the type of guy that probably would of checked it down with me because we had been talking and friendly to each other all night. He needed up winning but they chopped last 4 spots. I actually went to play cash games while the tournament was going on and he actually sent over a sandwich and a drink for me that he paid for which was a nice gesture

i dont see getting away from it with only 20 big blinds, even with how bad he supposedly needed the money. i dont really believe everything i hear from other players anyways as you shouldnt. you are too deep to just shove IMO, but i still think this one would play out the same anyways. id prefer to just make a 3x raise or maybe a little less and try and get him sucked it, but i dont think u can fold when he comes over the top.

**The Giant** · 12-12-12, 07:18 PM

Nothing you can do here, buddy. No matter how you play it, you're going broke. Just a brutal cooler.

**thetrinity** · 12-14-12, 08:48 AM

im glad wtt posted this hand but i think it would work better if he hadnt said that the opponent had aces in the first thread.

thats how they do it on 2+2, posting the results early will influence the responses.

EDIT: actually he didnt post it in the first thread, but he got one response and then posted it right after, let these things breathe a day or 2.