Can Vegas mobile sportsbooks detect VPNs or remote logins?

**onlooker** · 07-26-12, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by stuntin909

I am 95% positive it can be done. As mentioned, the hack over rides the apps, not the other way around.

I'm just concerned on how to register with Cantor. Do you need a Nevada address? Or just leave a deposit and be physically in Nevada to wager?

I'm going to give it a shot soon. Finishing school in a few weeks. Will report

Not sure if the Cantor Gaming Device Validator is actually a App, because you have to down it and the Cantor Gaming Sportsbook App. So you need two things on your phone to access their Sportsbook.

I'm pretty sure Locaid had spoofing in mind, hence the unspoofable reference up in the article I posted. But it will be interesting to see if any of you can get past it.

You have to sign up for the casino's players club, and that number acts as your Log-in ID. After you sign up for the players club, you go to the Sportsbook and sign up for the wagering account. Filling out a application. Not sure if it said you had to be a Nevada resident, but they do take a copy of your drivers license.

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 11:40 PM

Im sure you dont have to be a resident as they allow you to use their apps in the hotel being from anywhere

**stuntin909** · 07-26-12, 11:42 PM

Ill be in Vegas next week. Any Cantor book is good for the sign up? Gonna be staying at PH so Cosmo is across the street...

**onlooker** · 07-26-12, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by stuntin909

Ill be in Vegas next week. Any Cantor book is good for the sign up? Gonna be staying at PH so Cosmo is across the street...

Yep. You can sign up at any Cantor Sportsbook. But that will be where you have to deposit and withdraw from.

**HoulihansTX** · 07-26-12, 11:47 PM

They take a copy of SS, and ID, only so when you make a bet over 10K, they can auto-file the paper work to IRS. B/c obviouslt if you are using mobile app you will not be around to sign paperwork.

**Mjh702** · 07-27-12, 12:36 AM

I live here in Las Vegas and currently use Leroy's iPhone app. I can make deposits over the phone and make withdrawals either at a Leroy's sports book or any PTs bar in town. They all have ATM type machines to place bets or make deposits and withdrawals. Very simple to use and extremely convenient. Lines are comparable to lines on sbr odds. Haven't tried to hack it to make it work out of state though. Would love to hear if someone figures out a way as I travel to CA from time to time

**TheCentaur** · 07-27-12, 12:36 AM

Getting sick of this stuff

**MonkeyF0cker** · 07-27-12, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by YorkHunt

Ok. Im going to buy an Android phone either this weekend or early next week. This has to work. Anyone with a current Android phone PM ME ASAP

Good luck with that. You guys are the first to think of spoofing location.

http://www.loc-aid.com/gps-spoofing

**MonkeyF0cker** · 07-27-12, 01:03 AM

Locaid works with the carriers to fix a mobile user’s location based on the phone’s interaction with cellphone towers.

You need carrier verification to show that a mobile device is inside a state’s borders

Android Studio to get Gemini 1.5 Pro upgrade, Gemini code suggestions and crash reporting

http://venturebeat.com/2012/04/25/spoof-proof-authentication-to-help-mobile-gaming/

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**jjgold** · 07-27-12, 05:30 AM

Monkey your correct but hackers are always ahead of software developers

Heck they hack iphones and Apple cannot stop them,..enough said

**The Giant** · 07-27-12, 06:16 AM

I'd love to hear someone's success story circumventing the system, but....

**Optional** · 07-27-12, 06:37 AM

Get someone in Nevada to leave a mobile plugged into a charger somewhere for you.

Install Teamviewer on that phone and yours.

Viola... Loc-Aid defeated.

**stevenash** · 07-27-12, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by LVHerbie

But doesn't using cash cause you to lose your backup plan of charging-back loses Kerry?

this made me laugh

**jjgold** · 07-27-12, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Get someone in Nevada to leave a mobile plugged into a charger somewhere for you.

Install Teamviewer on that phone and yours.

Viola... Loc-Aid defeated.

Way too much effort

Easier to bet offshore

**stevenash** · 07-27-12, 07:25 AM

^
exactly

**TheCentaur** · 07-27-12, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Get someone in Nevada to leave a mobile plugged into a charger somewhere for you.

Install Teamviewer on that phone and yours.

Viola... Loc-Aid defeated.

Was wondering about this too.

**onlooker** · 07-27-12, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Monkey your correct but hackers are always ahead of software developers

Heck they hack iphones and Apple cannot stop them,..enough said

I agree JJ, but it isn't going to be as easy as some of these guys think, if it can be done.

**onlooker** · 07-27-12, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Get someone in Nevada to leave a mobile plugged into a charger somewhere for you.

Install Teamviewer on that phone and yours.

Viola... Loc-Aid defeated.

Originally posted by TheCentaur

Was wondering about this too.

Too much of a hassle.

Might as well just get a Las Vegas runner to bet for you.

**TheCentaur** · 07-27-12, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by onlooker

Too much of a hassle.

Might as well just get a Las Vegas runner to bet for you.

How do I get in touch with these people

**MonkeyF0cker** · 07-27-12, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Monkey your correct but hackers are always ahead of software developers

Heck they hack iphones and Apple cannot stop them,..enough said

No. Hackers are reactionary to software developers.

Hacking iPhones (or any device that you have hands-on access to) is a lot different than hacking cell phone tower transmissions. There is likely nothing on the phone itself that provides sole location verification.

**TheCentaur** · 07-27-12, 03:34 PM

Its seems that a teamviewer type remote access on plugged in phone in the area is the best option

**YorkHunt** · 07-27-12, 03:37 PM

All you have to do is get a virtual office at like Regus and tell them you want to use their address AND just have a phone plugged in they will allow it.

**TheCentaur** · 07-27-12, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by YorkHunt

All you have to do is get a virtual office at like Regus and tell them you want to use their address AND just have a phone plugged in they will allow it.

Ok sounds good. Mods delete thread ASAP

**onlooker** · 07-27-12, 03:46 PM

Sorry guys, but are you really serious?

You would really consider leaving a phone in Nevada so you can use these Apps?

I have a spare bedroom. Maybe I should set it up to host you out of state guys for a monthly fee. I could get a lot of phones in there.

**YorkHunt** · 07-27-12, 03:48 PM

Onlooker...Id pay you $50 a month just to allow me to do this

. Dont they have a login via computer too?? Why wouldnt you just leave a computer or laptop running at a virtual office and use THEIR wifi therefore the GPS is of the nevada address. Then login to the laptop remotely with LOGMEIN

**TheCentaur** · 07-27-12, 04:00 PM

Some people laugh at wanting to do this, but you could be talking 10-15 units per year. The benefits definitely outweigh the costs for people who aren't airbetting

**YorkHunt** · 07-27-12, 04:03 PM

Plus your money with these books are safe

**jjgold** · 07-27-12, 05:30 PM

Here is your answer boys
Corbin working OT

Leroys IPHONE Betting APP

"startup error
Leroy's cannot start up for the following reasons
Jailbroken Phone or IOS Simulator

**durito** · 07-27-12, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by onlooker

Sorry guys, but are you really serious?

You would really consider leaving a phone in Nevada so you can use these Apps?

I have a spare bedroom. Maybe I should set it up to host you out of state guys for a monthly fee. I could get a lot of phones in there.

why not

**onlooker** · 07-27-12, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by durito

why not

I guess if they want to go through the trouble, more power to them.

**durito** · 07-27-12, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by onlooker

I guess if they want to go through the trouble, more power to them.

I meant for you. Look at all these kids that wish they could live in vegas. You probably could fill up that room with phones. I'd collect all money up front though.

**Optional** · 07-27-12, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by onlooker

Sorry guys, but are you really serious?

You would really consider leaving a phone in Nevada so you can use these Apps?

I have a spare bedroom. Maybe I should set it up to host you out of state guys for a monthly fee. I could get a lot of phones in there.

I don't see any hassle for anyone. Throwaway phone is cheap. Teamviewer free and dead simple to use.

Why would you want the hassle of a runner and trusting other people with your money if you can just place bets yourself and money is always in your control.

I have a laptop under my desk for an American mate to use offshores. No hassle at all for anyone either.

**beatyourbk** · 07-27-12, 11:01 PM

Im in CALI,already install Cantor apps and Hack fake GPS,im able to get to the login screen after pass the location checking...so if who wanna test please pm me id and pass and remember have to mention to me which casino cause they ask that info at login screen,please give me the Zero balance or only 5,10 bucks in your acc,i just wanna help u guys out,and if its work i think thats the way we do to make sure all our money is safe at their books

**MonkeyF0cker** · 07-27-12, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by beatyourbk

Im in CALI,already install Cantor apps and Hack fake GPS,im able to get to the login screen after pass the location checking...so if who wanna test please pm me id and pass and remember have to mention to me which casino cause they ask that info at login screen,please give me the Zero balance or only 5,10 bucks in your acc,i just wanna help u guys out,and if its work i think thats the way we do to make sure all our money is safe at their books

Oh. You want my ID and password? Sent!

GTFOH.

**YorkHunt** · 07-27-12, 11:15 PM

This guy wants your login