if you mak 60k a year or less and vote republican why?

**Boner_18** · 07-02-12, 08:05 PM

"Mitt Romney promised to bring his experience from the corporate boardroom to Massachusetts, the same promise he’s making now as a presidential candidate. But Romney economics isn’t about creating jobs or helping the middle class. By the time Romney left office, state debt had increased, the size of government had grown, and Massachusetts had fallen behind almost every other state in job creation."

LOL

This is such propaganda. MA had less job creation because it had one of the highest employment rates in the country. It's hard to create jobs when you are already employing a greater % of the state.

So funny.

**acl123** · 07-02-12, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by SteelRain

Obama has the destroyed USA but Bush starting trillion dollar wars on the orders of neo-con jews is ok

lol I can't wait until your shit nation goes bankrupt you dumb ******* stooges.

Says the guy on an American forum and has an American avatar.

**opie1988** · 07-02-12, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by SteelRain

Obama has the destroyed USA but Bush starting trillion dollar wars on the orders of neo-con jews is ok

lol I can't wait until your shit nation goes bankrupt you dumb ******* stooges.

Hey brokedikk fukk-

What 3rd world shithole do you live in? Clearly you reside in squalor since you can't even scrounge up $200 to go Pro.

So why don't you go defecate in that hole you dug in the front yard, and I'll go join my fellow Americans this week while we enjoy our 4th of July holiday in the greatest country on earth.

**MonkeyF0cker** · 07-02-12, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by andywend

People who make $60k/annually or less want to keep their jobs and that is less likely with the democrats in control.

Please explain how the country supports wealthy job makers? These wealthy job makers use LESS than their average share of government services and pay the vast majority of income taxes collected in this country.

Welcome to Earth. So, business owners who have their parts, products, etc., shipped to their customers, offices, manufacturing plants, etc. use the highways/air traffic controllers less, pollute/contaminate the environment less, and don't benefit more from a public education system versus middle class Joe? Or is your head so far up your ass that you actually think that the only thing the government does is hand out entitlement checks and provides no resources to the success of corporate America?

Also, if you're white and have children, you have to be brain-dead to vote democrat.The democrat party is pure POISON to the middle class as they continuously try to lump in the middle class with the poor.

The middle class is poor. Wake up. Redistribution of wealth? Middle class squeeze.

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http://www.epi.org/publication/a_long_and_persistent_middle-class_squeeze/

Personally, I'd like to see a stop to incentivizing having children (adding to overpopulation) through tax breaks anyway.

The average middle class Joe is going to lose their healthcare once Obama is fully implemented as $500 billion of ObamaCare is being paid through cutting out Medicare Advantage which is the senior "little guy" medical insurance.

LOL. You're arguing about LOSING an entitlement now? Whatever suits your misinformed arguments and ignorant agenda. Huh?

**Shaudius** · 07-02-12, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

LOL. You're arguing about LOSING an entitlement now? Whatever suits your misinformed arguments and ignorant agenda. Huh?

**opie1988** · 07-02-12, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by CarpeDime

Yes exactly, because of God

God is a Republican, so I vote down-the-line Republican even though at times sure it may be against my own economic self-interest

Money isn't everything. I'm not going to pretend money doesn't matter because it does, but God comes first, and if God is a Republican, then that's how I'm going to vote, end of conversation

Laugh it up, lib-tard. I'm going to strangle you in Las Vegas.

**Shaudius** · 07-02-12, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by opie1988

Laugh it up, lib-tard. I'm going to strangle you in Las Vegas.

That must be the compassionate conservatism I've heard so much about.

**Extra Innings** · 07-02-12, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by ChalkyDog

Kudos?

I still think the guy who sees a hundred on the floor, and picks it up and quickly asks who dropped it is a goddamn moron.

But, good for you.

I would keep the hundred. I will more than likely be a small business owner in the next couple of years. Not having to directly pay insurance for my employees or family would be a plus. I'm in the mental health industry and Medicaid gets abused so why not continue with Obamacare? The organization I work for has been seeing some clients for 10 years straight on your dollar. Start charging these people and I guarantee you they get better in under a year

Despite all of this, I am against government forced insurance. If it goes through I'll be the first to make a buck off of it

**itchypickle** · 07-02-12, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by topgame85

Well I live in the DC metro area.... average income in my area is 2nd or 3rd highest in the country arounnd $110k a year I believe and $60k a year is a little less than I make and pretty much middle-lower middles class. Everyone here living in $500-600k homes or better driving 40k cars or close. I am comfortable but not secure I guess is the best way to put it. So in lower income areas guess the title is more geared toward 40k a year households.

You might have your answer to your own question in this post....the DC suburbs are the wealthiest per capita in the nation...and they consist of the largest concentration of GOVT EMPLOYEES with salaries above $75k on average....so that is why people making less than $60 would vote Republican...smaller govt means more money in THEIR pocket instead of paying inefficient people out of their own pocket to live better than they do

....see GSA scandal from earlier in the year.

**opie1988** · 07-02-12, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Shaudius

That must be the compassionate conservatism I've heard so much about.

I'm only compassionate to other God fearing, law abiding, patriotic Americans.

Believe it or not, Loshak was in this group not long ago. This guy basically ran the Hell's Kitchen entertainment district. Had a gorgeous 1br/ 1.5 ba loft w/ a killer park view. Retard gave it all up to chase his dream of being a pro gambler. Sold everything he had, moved into a mud hut that he shares with his pal Diego, and just studied lines day & night to pursue his dream.

Needless to say, this fairytale didn't quite turn out like he hoped!

**t-wizzle** · 07-02-12, 09:59 PM

If you make minimum wage or 100 grand a year why would you vote democrat?

**Mr KLC** · 07-02-12, 10:14 PM

Honestly, I don't give a damn if someone makes $20,000 or $2 million a year. It isn't my place to envy what these rich guys do, and want a governmental agency to come on a white horse, and play Robin Hood. There might be greedy corporations out there, but I'll take them over a power mongering government any day of the week. I've always worked for a corporation somewhere, and never had a problem with any of them, as long as the check cleared, and I can pay the mortgage. Better than waiting for some of those Obama Bucks.

**PAULYPOKER** · 07-02-12, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by opie1988

I'm only compassionate to other God fearing, law abiding, patriotic Americans.

Believe it or not, Loshak was in this group not long ago. This guy basically ran the Hell's Kitchen entertainment district. Had a gorgeous 1br/ 1.5 ba loft w/ a killer park view. Retard gave it all up to chase his dream of being a pro gambler. Sold everything he had, moved into a mud hut that he shares with his pal Diego, and just studied lines day & night to pursue his dream.

Needless to say, this fairytale didn't quite turn out like he hoped!

Whoa.........

**Extra Innings** · 07-02-12, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

**King Mayan** · 07-02-12, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

Honestly, I don't give a damn if someone makes $20,000 or $2 million a year. It isn't my place to envy what these rich guys do, and want a governmental agency to come on a white horse, and play Robin Hood. There might be greedy corporations out there, but I'll take them over a power mongering government any day of the week. I've always worked for a corporation somewhere, and never had a problem with any of them, as long as the check cleared, and I can pay the mortgage. Better than waiting for some of those Obama Bucks.

I respect the Obama bucks guys over these hypocrite dumbfukks.

**CarpeDime** · 07-02-12, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by opie1988

I'm only compassionate to other God fearing, law abiding, patriotic Americans.

Believe it or not, Loshak was in this group not long ago. This guy basically ran the Hell's Kitchen entertainment district. Had a gorgeous 1br/ 1.5 ba loft w/ a killer park view. Retard gave it all up to chase his dream of being a pro gambler. Sold everything he had, moved into a mud hut that he shares with his pal Diego, and just studied lines day & night to pursue his dream.

Needless to say, this fairytale didn't quite turn out like he hoped!

I will CRUSH you you liberal FUK. YOU SOCIALIST SCUMBAG YOU WILL GO DOWN YOU DO NOT KNOW WHOM YOU ARE FUKING WITH

you just CANT FUKIN CONTROL YOURSELF from being elitest and superior just because I said I care about God more then anything when I am voting

well you go on believing your college professor bullsh*t evolution theories

we'll see what you have to say about evolution and making fun of people who believe in God when YOU ARE STANDING IN FRONT OF HIM YOURSELF

and that could come sooner rather than later depending on how lippy you get with me in Vegas pal

YOUR GOING DOWN LIBERAL SCUMSUCKER

**golfrulz** · 07-02-12, 10:57 PM

hey crap dime you are nothing but a pond scum rethug racist bigot. tough guy?

**DwightShrute** · 07-02-12, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by King Mayan

I respect the Obama bucks guys over these hypocrite dumbfukks.

isn't Bill Maher's ex-boyfriend from Mississippi?

**SteelRain** · 07-02-12, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by opie1988

I'm only compassionate to other God fearing, law abiding, patriotic Americans.

Then you should have voted for Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan when you had the chance.

Instead you vote for dumbfuk Republicans who are running in your nation into the ground along with Democrats while the Jews fleece your country and laugh all the way to Israel.

Can't wait until your shit nation implodes and redneck know nothings like you are extinct.

**TheCentaur** · 07-02-12, 11:29 PM

Because you don't have to be currently living the American dream to believe in it

**MoneyLineDawg** · 07-02-12, 11:34 PM

The whole 2 party system is what's wrong with this country.....NOT one or the other

There should be 5 or 6 candidates and they should all have platforms based off of what they think can help this country....NOT what suits their parties' agendas and what helps their top campaign donors the most

I just laugh at hardcore repubs or dems going back and forth all day with the same tired arguments......While at the same time a select few politicians and higher up CEO's and powerful people laugh all the way to the bank

Joke's on us.....wake up people

**gauchojake** · 07-02-12, 11:41 PM

The thing that people lose sight on is that we are are a representative democracy. Change will not happen with a president, it needs to start with you. Congress writes the laws, it's up to YOU to let them know that you don't like it.

How many people here have written a senator or congressmen in the past year? Get involved in local politics if you want change.

And then realize if voting cold change anything it would be illegal.

**PAULYPOKER** · 07-02-12, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by gauchojake

The thing that people lose sight on is that we are are a representative democracy. Change will not happen with a president, it needs to start with you. Congress writes the laws, it's up to YOU to let them know that you don't like it.

How many people here have written a senator or congressmen in the past year? Get involved in local politics if you want change.

And then realize if voting cold change anything it would be illegal.

That won't do it either, sad to say, congress is too infested with corruption,I say it is time to gut congress from the inside out and remodel..............

But how????? is the real question...............

**ericc** · 07-02-12, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by topgame85

Always wondered about low income workers who vote republican and high income people who vote democrat...... do we have any of those here? If so why? Wealthy Libs can say they want to help humanity and willing to pay more etc make sense I guess although i think they are strange but if you are poor why do you vote for republicans? Do you think you will be rich one day, do you think it is the right thing for the country to support wealthy job makers, do you know you would be making less than the already low 30k you make now if biz owners were getting bent over? Are you extremely socially conservative and willing to vote outside your social classs because you are anti-abortion, pro gun etc?........ Valid question. WHY? do you vote outside of your social class on eiyther side?

voting Democrat is going to make poor people rich? on what planet?

**topgame85** · 07-03-12, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by robmpink

Aren't you a felon and limo dispatcher? Are you blowing the drivers on the side? Maybe working 80 hours a week?

Some people are slow or not so good at reading..... As previously stated I am NOT a convicted felon I was once charged with a few resulting from one event but when the facts came out it was lowered to a lesser charge. Prosecutors love to up charge because they can always plead you out to a lower crime. Did my time for that stupid lapse in judgement where I tried to help some people who were in a bad way and only had minor in no way violent run ins with the law since. Not that any of that is even relevant in reality.... If you are smart you will make money regardless of what your criminal record says because you are an asset to someone. Used to be just a dispatcher in limo industry now am involved in a different segment/different company as well as have some small side ventures and been doing well with investments. Haters gonna Hate.

**dante1** · 07-03-12, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by CarpeDime

Yes exactly, because of God

God is a Republican, so I vote down-the-line Republican even though at times sure it may be against my own economic self-interest

Money isn't everything. I'm not going to pretend money doesn't matter because it does, but God comes first, and if God is a Republican, then that's how I'm going to vote, end of conversation

"God is a Republican", this is a huge reason R still win elections. If you have a half a brain you realize how fvcked up this statement is on so many levels. This is the intellect that drives the R party. These are the people that vote R. In their pea brain their "god" is a Republican. Can you imagine the stupidity of this comment?

**iifold** · 07-03-12, 11:32 AM

My guess is some people care more about their country's future then they do a fukkin food stamp or hand out...

**dante1** · 07-03-12, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by iifold

My guess is some people care more about their country's future then they do a fukkin food stamp or hand out...

This is your guess and it is a valid guess. My guess is these low educated, low economic level, and low standard of living R voting people would accept a $10 bill to change their vote. That is my guess.

**KingJD31** · 07-03-12, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by dante1

This is your guess and it is a valid guess. My guess is these low educated, low economic level, and low standard of living R voting people would accept a $10 bill to change their vote. That is my guess.

make it 15 and you got a deal

**PAULYPOKER** · 03-13-18, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

The whole 2 party system is what's wrong with this country.....NOT one or the other

There should be 5 or 6 candidates and they should all have platforms based off of what they think can help this country....NOT what suits their parties' agendas and what helps their top campaign donors the most

I just laugh at hardcore repubs or dems going back and forth all day with the same tired arguments......While at the same time a select few politicians and higher up CEO's and powerful people laugh all the way to the bank

Joke's on us.....wake up people

Oh yes, the good ole days,when we had intelligent discussions.........

Now we have roughly ten posters throwing MSM induced shit at one another, 24/7..........

**Underdog5229** · 03-13-18, 01:13 PM

Don't want or need the Democrat hand outs. Work hard get paid.

**BigBusiness** · 03-13-18, 01:14 PM

I don't know the feeling since I make way more than 60k.

**ikid2groove415** · 03-13-18, 01:18 PM

100k a year is almost consider low income in San Francisco unreal !!

**JIBBBY** · 03-13-18, 01:18 PM

Democratic party is a joke and has slowly been ruining this Country.. They push for open borders which already has killed the State I live in.. California Democrats in leadership have absolutely run this State into the ground financially as well.. That tells you all you need to know if Democrats and Liberals ever take leadership again in this Country..

Republican leadership is sooooo needed now... Yes they get my vote no matter how much I make..

**MinnesotaFats** · 03-13-18, 01:24 PM

To many it's more about protection of individual liberties.

If liberals had there way:

There's no guns- then no hunting.

There's no sport- then no football.

There's only government sanctioned schools- then no "getting away".

There's no church- then no guidance.

There's no individual getting ahead- only collective advancement.

I guess those are just a few things that pop into my head.

The hunting rights and how that can apply to anything on the liberal agenda is certainly cause for concern, but also- think about uber or lyft. Think how, for years, liberals have monopolized the simple right to drive your car for profit by charging fees for licenses, cabs, etc. It's things like that- the unchecked largess and growth of unnessecary government obstruction, that working class vote against as well.

All those little taxes, the extra gas tax, the phone surcharge, the cable franchise, the state id increase, the fee for a document, tab registrations, etc....they always go up when liberals take charge. It adds up to less quality of life....it makes that $60k turn into $55k....

The real question is why to impoverished minorities vote for liberals? We've had 60 years(3 generations) of "great society" redistribution and I see cyclical poverty and entrapment in the inner city. Minorities on the doll cannot get out of better themselves. That's the question- why do liberals make poverty an acceptable or comfortable choice? It's enabling.