Simmons had an article saying this title has an asterisk because of the Rose injury. Tend to agree... Bulls obviously 2nd best team in the league behind Miami so it helps Miami that number 2 was out because of injuries.
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LOL Bulls will never ever win a championship with that team. They'll never even reach the finals. Bulls were the 5th best team in the league this year, IF THAT. They are built for the regular season.
Keep following the regular season and base your playoff prediction off that, just like 99% of sbr doesCause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
With D rose healthy, the Heat would not be in the finals. before playing against OKC, Heat were playing average if not bad for their standards. Average Heat against the Bulls? Bulls win.Comment -
Another 16 regular season games and more possibilty for injuries and potential different seeds. Its an asterisk season end of story.Comment -
Now regular season matters?
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So they beat Rose and an extremely young Bulls team so they would have definitely done it the next year? Please... Rip would have helped a lot, and to be honest, the only reason the Bulls lost to the Heat last year is because guys like Korver who hit 3's all year missed a shit ton of wide open ones.
You're crazy if you think it would have been a non series, especially with 3-4 game misses of Bosh.
With healthy Rose and with Bosh missing the first 4-5 games of the series, Bulls are heavy, heavy favorites.Comment -
you guys hating miami are redicoulus!
Whats coming next? Nobody ever talked about those bulls motherfuckers now all of a sudden Miami won just because of Rose beeing injured?
If OKC wins series everything is nice but if Miami wins it all "its a shorten season! doesnt count!"
FCK OFF everybody hating the heat like seriously! You cant take it away from them now. They did one hell of a job and gave it all they got this year. They played like a real champion so fukk everybody hating hereComment -
They wouldn't have DEFINITELY beat them, but if the Heat played like they did against Boston against Chicago, Bulls sweep them in 4. Heat looked like dog shit in the Celtics series and won because of some pretty terrible officiating in game 2 and the fact Boston is downright god awful.
People just think Miami is unbeatable... the Bulls played their worst 4 games of the last 2 years (with everyone healthy) in that Heat series and it was all personal mistakes. Missing so many wide open 3's isn't the Heat being good, it is the Bulls being too young and choking. Assuming it would happen again is a bold, bold assumption.
Despite all of this, the Heat still could have easily lost to the Celtics and could have easily lost to the Thunder without some of those terrible calls.
Fukk it, its over, but Bulls are a bigger threat to Miami than anyone they played in the playoffs. No point in arguing against that.Comment -
No point in continuing the argument after that comment. People just are biased against the Bulls for whatever reason. They were in OKC's shoes last year, way too young and on a bigger stage than they've been on, and they choked, just like OKC did this year.
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Agreed. Because with Rose the Bulls were a shoe-in for the Finals. Great argument.
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You really think Indiana, Boston, New York provided Lebron and company any challenge? Shit man. Lebron and company were on cruise control against Boston and they were too old and shitty to take advantage.Comment -
the bulls championships from the 90s should have an asterisk because lebron and kobe weren't playing yet because of age.Comment -
All these heat defenders make me laugh. It wasn't a reg season. It wasn't harder or easier. It was different. Just like if heat lost they could of and imo used the excuse that " they hadn't gelled yet". The celtics would not have won there div in a full season and only went that far cause those old farts still had gas left to make a run.Comment -
I just get sick of hearing people comparing Lebron to Michael Jordan. Obviously these people are like 18-22 and never even saw MJ play.
Jordan could make clutch jumpers with the game on the line.
Lebron scores most of his points by getting in the paint and powering through people. Dallas played a zone last year and forced Lebron into jump shots and he sucked.
James is a really good player but not even close to Jordan's level.Comment -
You should be laughing at yourself with this excuse for a asterisk, because that is a joke.
Your only agenda here is to discredit Lebron's championship. Because you don't like the guy. Plain and simple. You wouldn't be discussing this if any other team won. That is a fact.Comment -
The bulls lost in the first round you dumbass. Lebron James by himself or Dwayne Wade by himself would beat the bulls team without Rose.
You act like Rose is a top 5 player in the NBA or something
Guy is not even close to Wade or James. No where near.
By the way, the Bulls lost last year in 5 to a much worse Heat team. In 5 buddy. Bulls would have lost to the celtics with a healthy rose. They would have lost to the Thunder and the Spurs and probably the Lakers. They are not a good team. Carlos Boozer is not a good player. Deng is good. They don't have real superstars. Rose won a fluke MVP because his team and Thibbs try so hard during the regular season while MIA and BOST are on cruise control.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
obviously James is no where near Jordan right now.
He did not lose to Dallas because of the zone. James lost because he had no killer instinct. A dallas zone is not gonna stop Lebron James, with only two good defenders there in Chandler and Marion. The only person that can stop Lebron James is himself, which is what we saw for years and years, not just against Dallas, but Boston too.
Wade is not a good jump shooter at all. You didn't see Dallas's zone bother him driving to the rim did you? Who is less explosive and not as strong as James. Wade averaged 29 a game in the finals last year. Dallas zone couldn't stop him for shit.
It was obvious Lebron stopped himself.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
I'm a huge Bulls fan but I sorta agree with you. The Bulls front office needs to get their act together and get some serious talent to Chicago to complement Rose. Boozer is NOT gonna cut it. Even with Rose, Chicago would've lost to Miami this year without a doubt. The Bulls are a solid piece or two away from seriously contending, however.
The bulls lost in the first round you dumbass. Lebron James by himself or Dwayne Wade by himself would beat the bulls team without Rose.
You act like Rose is a top 5 player in the NBA or something
Guy is not even close to Wade or James. No where near.
By the way, the Bulls lost last year in 5 to a much worse Heat team. In 5 buddy. Bulls would have lost to the celtics with a healthy rose. They would have lost to the Thunder and the Spurs and probably the Lakers. They are not a good team. Carlos Boozer is not a good player. Deng is good. They don't have real superstars. Rose won a fluke MVP because his team and Thibbs try so hard during the regular season while MIA and BOST are on cruise control.Comment -
Lol come on goat lebron proved he couldn't win by himself now you"re saying he or wade would have beat bulls by himself.
Hey onlooker we could go on forever but don't forget I attack lebron as much or less than you defend him. Anytime a thread popped up about him you were there like his personal agaent slash lawyer.Comment -
So the Bulls lose in the first round without Rose (reigning MVP) without Noah (fringe All star player who is invaluable) and with another all star (Deng) playing at 50% with a torn ligament and you think that is comparable? Wow.
You think the Heat make it out of the first round with Lebron out with an ACL tear, Bosh out, and Wade playing with a torn ligament in his elbow????? They exit first round just like Bulls.
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How can you agree with him? HE said healthy Bulls lose to Boston.
Healthy bulls are -450 or -500 going into a series against Boston... so since we'll never know, all we can do is speculate, and he is speculating something that pretty much no one else would speculate.Comment -
Heat had all the bounces. Boston was gassed. Pacers had no clue how to put heat away when they were for the taking. Knicks were a joke and okc had no experience.Comment -
This is so stupid.
People have such short memories... most of those 5 games were close late in the game with Bulls/Heat... the difference was that the Bulls continued to miss wide open shots and Miami knocked them down. That isn't something that means one team is infinitely better. It has to do with being ready to make the shots in crunch time, and the Bulls weren't.
Let me refresh everyone's memory.
Game 1: Bulls blow out the Heat
Game 2: 73-73 with 6 minutes left in game. Yeah... I'm sure the Bulls were incapable of winning this game and it had nothing to do with finished the game like 1-15.
Game 3: Bulls down 68-65 heading to 4th. Another game they were incapable of winning, right?
Game 4: Went to damn OT. Rose misses jumper as time expires. Get beat down in OT. Another game they are incapable of winning right?
Game 5: Heat win 83-80. Another game the Bulls were incapable of winning, right?
All 4 losses were winnable. Bulls missed a ridiculous amount of key open shots in each one.
To suggest they are incapable of beating the Heat is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of considering every single game was close heading to the 4th.Comment
